2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"

[jgod213]

Forgot Maggette can provide scoring punch of the bench.

Yeah glenn davis is a nice piece here, but as others have been saying you might want to try and at least get into some lower-level trading.

Just a move or two to get you a role player that can help facilitate the offense.  You've got some bigtime names, but you need to compliment them with some other pieces.

[Lucky17]

Forgot Maggette can provide scoring punch of the bench.

Maggette isn't your problem..scoring isn't your problem.

Westbrook: Only 2 pgs in the league end a possession in a less frequently (as opposed to shooting, or turning the ball over). Westbrook is a pretty bad passer for a point guard.
Marshon Brooks: terrible passer
Corey Maggette: terrible passer for a SF, Epically terrible passer for a basketball player, mostly cuz he doesn't do it.
Blake Griffin: An okay passer for a PF, still learning
Perkins: below average passer for a C, terrible for a basketball player

You've got no ball movement.

Agreed.

See if you can scrape together whatever expendable assets you have to land a decent two-way SG who can help move the ball on offense.

[Who]

Alrighty brand new knicks team to roll out!

WestBrook/D.J. Augustin
Brooks/Brewer/Rivers
Leonard/Brewer
Blake/BBD
Perk/Mozgov

Head Coach tom thibodeau


Effective defensive team with Tommy T at the head and great PG and SF defenders in Leonard and Westbrook. Plus offense is potent with 1 2 punch of Russel and Blake. Along with scoring ability of Marshon and Leonard spotting up and cutting. BBD is our man off the bench and we can go small with D.J. in at pg and russel at the 2 at certain times of the game.

Don't like the idea of a Westbrook/Brooks backcourt. Don't like the combination of the two. 

Marshon Brooks shouldn't be starting.

Well that is the one of the choices we are having trouble making may start Corey Brewer at the 2 brings better defense.

I wouldn't start Brewer.

I would either go with MarShon Brooks or slide Westbrook over to SG and start DJ Augustin. Get another ball-handler, passer and shooter into the lineup. Create more balance offensively.

I don't like moving Westbrook to the two but your current options are flawed in one way (Brewer can't shoot) or the other (M.Brooks can't play defense and is a high usage shot-taker for a role player) so it may end up being your best option. M.Brooks would be more effective as a bench scorer too.

Yes, I like that better.

PG - DJ Augustin, (Westbrook)
SG - Russell Westbrook, Marshon Brooks
SF - Kawhi Leonard, Corey Brewer, Corey Maggette
PF - Blake Griffin, Glen Davis
C  - Kendrick Perkins, Timofey Mozgov

I don't know how to find an effective way to fit Maggette into that lineup with those type of offensive players. I think Maggette will end up doing more harm than good in your rotation. I would drop him from the rotation altogether and play Corey Brewer as my backup SF.

Or you could drop Brooks from the rotation and slide Brewer back to backup SG and allow Maggette to be your backup SF. I am at a loss how to fit both Maggette and Brooks into your team though.

[Lucky17]

Who, what about Austin Rivers as the starting PG? Still too much of a high-usage player?

[indeedproceed]

Who, what about Austin Rivers as the starting PG? Still too much of a high-usage player?

It would be like watching two kids who want to play with the same toy, but neither is willing to share. Awesome, set it up.

[Who]

Who, what about Austin Rivers as the starting PG? Still too much of a high-usage player?

He is not ready. I wouldn't have him as a backup PG either.

Third string combo guard.

[Lucky17]

Who, what about Austin Rivers as the starting PG? Still too much of a high-usage player?

It would be like watching two kids who want to play with the same toy, but neither is willing to share. Awesome, set it up.

So right. Russell would probably end up punching Austin in the mouth, repeatedly.

[WeMadeIt17]

Who, what about Austin Rivers as the starting PG? Still too much of a high-usage player?

He is not ready. I wouldn't have him as a backup PG either.

Third string combo guard.

Thats where he is staying no worries there.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Sloan without a PG?   Makes no sense. 

He has a system.  Your team is not made for that system.

Other than that Stockton and Williams stand out in your memory - and for good reason - what's your argument? I'd contend that one of the hallmarks of the flex offense is player roles that are closer to interchangeable. And I chose Sloan specifically because after drafting two great ball handling wing men and then BPA Klay Thompson, I didn't want to run a point guard dominated offense.

Who made some good arguments against my plan. But I'm still of the opinion that Iguodala is a player Sloan will love and a near perfect fit.

The simplest way to define the qualities of a good flex player is the ability to multitask. In the flex, each player on the floor is a screener and a screenee, a passer and a cutter, a guy who can make plays in a variety of ways by instantaneously reading the defense.

Golden State coach Jerry Sloan runs his flex offense through Iguodala, with staggered screens galore for Klay Thompson. (Fun Fact 1: Thompson ranks in the top 10 among all NBA players in screen play efficiency.) and off the ball cuts by Anthony Davis. (Fun Fact 2: Last year, in cut situations, Davis posted a PPP of 1.51, placing him in the top 4% of all college players, on a ridiculous 82.7% shooting.) Channing Frye gets his off pin downs and pick and pops, and is just generally a pain for opposing centers to guard.

[The Walker Wiggle]

By way of further evidence take a look at Deron's last full season with the Jazz, 2009-10. He was assisted on 47% of his baskets. League average for a point guard is 37%. And most other great point guards, allowed to dominate the ball in pick and roll heavy action, score mostly unassisted. Nash was assisted on just 11% of his baskets that year. Paul on 12%, Westbrook on 20%, Parker on 29%.

This would also be one explanation if Deron's subpar shooting since joining the Nets is here to stay.

[indeedproceed]

THE DUBS

The beginnings of a bench.

SG Manu Ginobili/ Delonte West
SG Klay Thompson
Point Forward Andre Iguodala
PF Anthony Davis
C Channing Frye/ Bismack Biyombo

Tell me about Anthony Davis. Like, compare him to a player of similar tendencies you think he'll match his rookie year on offense, and the same on defense. I've watched him in college, but even the best rookies have an acclimation period. Where is Anthony Davis's baseline, potential notwithstanding.

Also someone explain to me why notwithstanding is one word, and not 3.

[WeMadeIt17]

Nickgata check pm

[Yoki_IsTheName]

After the trade:

Cleveland Derps:

Roster and projected rotations:

PG - Mario Chalmers / Jerryd Bayless / Derek Fisher
SG - Brandon Rush / Brandon Roy
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Jason Smith / Kenyon Martin
C  - Andrew Bogut / Andre Drummond

Head Coach: Greg Popovich

[Roy H.]

After the trade:

Cleveland Derps:

Roster and projected rotations:

PG - Mario Chalmers / Jerryd Bayless / Derek Fisher
SG - Brandon Rush / Brandon Roy
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Jason Smith / Kenyon Martin
C  - Andrew Bogut / Andre Drummond

Head Coach: Greg Popovich

I think it was a very good trade for you.

I would look to add some more scoring punch, though, and a quality SF with size, who would allow Carmelo to slide over to PF for stretches. 

[Rondo2287]

After the trade:

Cleveland Derps:

Roster and projected rotations:

PG - Mario Chalmers / Jerryd Bayless / Derek Fisher
SG - Brandon Rush / Brandon Roy
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Jason Smith / Kenyon Martin
C  - Andrew Bogut / Andre Drummond

Head Coach: Greg Popovich

First, you really would have been soooo much better had you kept Monroe and Irving.  Those were two top flight players. 

Second, The carmello trade made you better

Third, Is jason smith the worst starting player in this league?