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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #810 on: August 01, 2012, 12:47:12 AM »

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You think shutting down Danny Granger is priority #1 still? I'm pretty sure he faced mostly single coverage last season, with 3 other double digit scorers around him at all times usually.

That's my sense as well, though I haven't given it a hard look. Tough to think teams weren't living with Granger jumpers. His shooting was terrible.

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #811 on: August 01, 2012, 12:47:42 AM »

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I think Chris Paul can make them all better while being a baller himself.  Granger is a stud 3 point shooter and has 1. never had a guy like Paul to get him the ball and 2. never not been the focus of an entire defense to contain/shut down

You think shutting down Danny Granger is priority #1 still? I'm pretty sure he faced mostly single coverage last season, with 3 other double digit scorers around him at all times usually.

Note that I wrote "contain/shut down".  I'd say every team has at least concerned themselves with containing Granger.  I'd say containing/shutting down Granger is probably a top priority unless the team is absolutely weak defensively at PF or C.  But that's definitely arguable.
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #812 on: August 01, 2012, 12:48:15 AM »

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PG: Russell Westbrook
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SF: Wilson Chandler
PF: Donatas Montiejunas
C: Marcin Gortat

Bench: Mario Chalmers, Jonas Jerebko, Jonas Valanciunas

Coach: Larry Brown

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #813 on: August 01, 2012, 12:51:00 AM »

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I think Chris Paul can make them all better while being a baller himself.  Granger is a stud 3 point shooter and has 1. never had a guy like Paul to get him the ball and 2. never not been the focus of an entire defense to contain/shut down

You think shutting down Danny Granger is priority #1 still? I'm pretty sure he faced mostly single coverage last season, with 3 other double digit scorers around him at all times usually.

Note that I wrote "contain/shut down".  I'd say every team has at least concerned themselves with containing Granger.  I'd say containing/shutting down Granger is probably a top priority unless the team is absolutely weak defensively at PF or C.  But that's definitely arguable.

Well if that's the case, why has his production fallen off so significantly as he advances in his prime? He's not even 30 yet, is he? At 26 he really was the only show in town and looked like the stud you're saying he is.

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« Reply #814 on: August 01, 2012, 12:51:50 AM »

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You think shutting down Danny Granger is priority #1 still? I'm pretty sure he faced mostly single coverage last season, with 3 other double digit scorers around him at all times usually.

That's my sense as well, though I haven't given it a hard look. Tough to think teams weren't living with Granger jumpers. His shooting was terrible.

His 3pt shooting was fine at 38%.  I don't know why his overall fg% was so poor.  Poor shot selection inside the arc I assume?

A good point to rebut my opinion would that this year he irrefutably would be less focused on this season than in years past, so why was his efficiency worse this season than in seasons past.  I have no idea and it seems quite the opposite to what common sense would say.
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« Reply #815 on: August 01, 2012, 12:52:37 AM »

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Well if that's the case, why has his production fallen off so significantly as he advances in his prime? He's not even 30 yet, is he? At 26 he really was the only show in town and looked like the stud you're saying he is.

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« Reply #816 on: August 01, 2012, 12:59:17 AM »

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PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: Stephen Curry
SF: Wilson Chandler
PF: Donatas Montiejunas
C: Marcin Gortat

Bench: Mario Chalmers, Jonas Jerebko, Jonas Valanciunas

Coach: Larry Brown

Tell me more about the guy who plays power forward for you. How old is he? He's 7ft, but can he guard 4s?

Honestly I would've taken him if I didn't have your voice in my head saying 'he's not Tim Duncan, he can't play meaningful minutes on a contender.'


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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #817 on: August 01, 2012, 01:48:47 AM »

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PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: Stephen Curry
SF: Wilson Chandler
PF: Donatas Montiejunas
C: Marcin Gortat

Bench: Mario Chalmers, Jonas Jerebko, Jonas Valanciunas

Coach: Larry Brown

Ah, so this is what things look like in Houston now.

I do like the Westbrook-Curry combo. I don't think position designations really matter much to these two. They can do most of the heavy lifting in the offense, with less pressure falling on Gortat.

You'll definitely need to draft well to add more to the bench beyond Supernintendo Chalmers and the Jonas Brothers. The PF rotation is a huge question mark. Could be good, could be not so good. A big defending guard would help; if he can also play the 3, even better.

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #818 on: August 01, 2012, 01:48:53 AM »

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PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: Stephen Curry
SF: Wilson Chandler
PF: Donatas Montiejunas
C: Marcin Gortat

Bench: Mario Chalmers, Jonas Jerebko, Jonas Valanciunas

Coach: Larry Brown

Honestly I would've taken him if I didn't have your voice in my head saying 'he's not Tim Duncan, he can't play meaningful minutes on a contender.'
That's why you wouldn't take him...but as currently constructed, the Boxers aren't a contender. So that's why I took him. He can play meaningful minutes on the Boxers.

Honestly, this year's draft only has 2 maybe 3 contending teams so he could play meaningful minutes on just about every team this year. ;D

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #819 on: August 01, 2012, 11:18:58 AM »

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PG: George Hill/Jason Kidd
Sg: Kobe Bryant/Grant Hill
SF: Mbah A Moute/Grant Hill
PF: David West
C:  Tim Duncan/ Sam Dalembert
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #820 on: August 01, 2012, 11:22:38 AM »

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PG: George Hill/Jason Kidd
Sg: Kobe Bryant/Grant Hill
SF: Mbah A Moute/Grant Hill
PF: David West
C:  Tim Duncan/ Sam Dalembert

PG: George Hill, Jason Kidd
SG: Kobe Bryant, (George Hill)
SF: Mbah A Moute, Grant Hill
PF: David West, (Mbah a Moute)
C:  Tim Duncan, Sam Dalembert

Looks like your rotation is all set.

I love the George Hill, Jason Kidd and Kobe Bryant backcourt. They complement one another's games beautifully. A really terrific combination.

Only need to add third string (situational subs) now.

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #821 on: August 01, 2012, 11:35:03 AM »

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« Reply #822 on: August 01, 2012, 11:37:34 AM »

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #823 on: August 01, 2012, 11:42:26 AM »

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PG: George Hill/Jason Kidd
Sg: Kobe Bryant/Grant Hill
SF: Mbah A Moute/Grant Hill
PF: David West
C:  Tim Duncan/ Sam Dalembert

This is a really good squad.

Definitely one to reckon with come playoff time when the game slows down. 

On paper, easily a top-3 slow tempo, half-court team.


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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #824 on: August 01, 2012, 11:47:41 AM »

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PG: George Hill/Jason Kidd
Sg: Kobe Bryant/Grant Hill
SF: Mbah A Moute/Grant Hill
PF: David West
C:  Tim Duncan/ Sam Dalembert

This is a really good squad.

Definitely one to reckon with come playoff time when the game slows down. 

On paper, easily a top-3 slow tempo, half-court team.

Thank you sir, thats exactly what I was going for.  Every year I try to find what is undervalued.  This year it was old farts with one good run left in them
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