2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"

[wdleehi]

Someone has my team top three in the East.


Not going to complain. 


I have 4 picks tomorrow to try and improve that. 

Sounds like fun.

[nickagneta]

Back on topic

Love those Boxers.

Russell Westbrook - superduperstar
Iman Shumpert - he will miss only a third of the season and be there for the playoffs
Paul George - ready for a huge breakout season
Jonas Valanciunas - who may still come off the bench, but you heard it here first, he will beat out Anthony Davis for Rookie of the Year. He's that good.
Marcin Grotat - he's for real and a 15/11/1.5 beast. If he was on a contender people would be calling him the 2nd or 3rd best center in the league.

I really like it but I think you could use some floor spacing

Yeah...I agree. But if teams with 4 players, no picks until the 7th round, and a really old PG coming off a lost season due to injury can be seen be some as the top team, I'm pretty sure the Boxers will be abke to solve their spacing problems with a couple more picks.

Honest disclosure, I see Big Val as my 6th man and will be drafting my starting PF coming up in the next round or so.

[Who]

Back on topic

Love those Boxers.

Russell Westbrook - superduperstar
Iman Shumpert - he will miss only a third of the season and be there for the playoffs
Paul George - ready for a huge breakout season
Jonas Valanciunas - who may still come off the bench, but you heard it here first, he will beat out Anthony Davis for Rookie of the Year. He's that good.
Marcin Grotat - he's for real and a 15/11/1.5 beast. If he was on a contender people would be calling him the 2nd or 3rd best center in the league.

I really like it but I think you could use some floor spacing

Yeah...I agree. But if teams with 4 players, no picks until the 7th round, and a really old PG coming off a lost season due to injury can be seen be some as the top team, I'm pretty sure the Boxers will be abke to solve their spacing problems with a couple more picks.

Honest disclosure, I see Big Val as my 6th man and will be drafting my starting PF coming up in the next round or so.

I would consider bringing both Jonas and Shumpert off the bench.

Replace Shumpert in the starting lineup with more of a shot-maker at SG.

[Lucky17]

Nick, any worries that, without a tablesetter like Steve Nash, the quality of Gortat's shots will decrease? The overwhelming majority of Gortat's scoring last season came from within 10 feet of the hoop, thanks to Nash being so effective in running the P&R.

With RW and George being the primary scorers on this team (much like in the real OKC) will Gortat's scoring be closer to Ibaka's 10 points a game?

[nickagneta]

Nick, any worries that, without a tablesetter like Steve Nash, the quality of Gortat's shots will decrease? The overwhelming majority of Gortat's scoring last season came from within 10 feet of the hoop, thanks to Nash being so effective in running the P&R.

With RW and George being the primary scorers on this team (much like in the real OKC) will Gortat's scoring be closer to Ibaka's 10 points a game?

I dont see a problem as Gortat's ability to finish in the P&R is about as good as it gets in the league. There are stats I will show that prove this. Weztbrook is accustomed to the P&R and is pretty good at it, he just plats it with a fabulous SF and two big men with little to no offensive talent. Gortat has excellent low post skills and finishing skills on thr P&R.

[Lucky17]

Nick, any worries that, without a tablesetter like Steve Nash, the quality of Gortat's shots will decrease? The overwhelming majority of Gortat's scoring last season came from within 10 feet of the hoop, thanks to Nash being so effective in running the P&R.

With RW and George being the primary scorers on this team (much like in the real OKC) will Gortat's scoring be closer to Ibaka's 10 points a game?

I dont see a problem as Gortat's ability to finish in the P&R is about as good as it gets in the league. There are stats I will show that prove this. Weztbrook is accustomed to the P&R and is pretty good at it, he just plats it with a fabulous SF and two big men with little to no offensive talent. Gortat has excellent low post skills and finishing skills on thr P&R.

I guess my questions weren't so much about Gortat as they are about Westbrook's ability/willingness to set him up in the P&R. I agree with everything you said above, except I have reservations about the italicized part. But I'll wait for the pressers for you to present your case more formally/forcefully.

[indeedproceed]

Sometimes when you look at synergy stats, you're like, "Man, that sucks. That doesn't makes sense at all with what I thought about that guy."

Sometimes you look at them and you're like, "Wow, I did not expect his numbers to look that great."

Pekovic was rated as one of the most efficient scorers in the league last season, 14th overall in points per possession. 4th best pick and roll man. FOURTH BEST PICK AND ROLL MAN!

That's...that's nice. I liked that.

[nickagneta]

Nick, any worries that, without a tablesetter like Steve Nash, the quality of Gortat's shots will decrease? The overwhelming majority of Gortat's scoring last season came from within 10 feet of the hoop, thanks to Nash being so effective in running the P&R.

With RW and George being the primary scorers on this team (much like in the real OKC) will Gortat's scoring be closer to Ibaka's 10 points a game?

I dont see a problem as Gortat's ability to finish in the P&R is about as good as it gets in the league. There are stats I will show that prove this. Weztbrook is accustomed to the P&R and is pretty good at it, he just plats it with a fabulous SF and two big men with little to no offensive talent. Gortat has excellent low post skills and finishing skills on thr P&R.

I guess my questions weren't so much about Gortat as they are about Westbrook's ability/willingness to set him up in the P&R. I agree with everything you said above, except I have reservations about the italicized part. But I'll wait for the pressers for you to present your case more formally/forcefully.

You don't remember watching OKC in the playoffs and seeing Westbrook and Durant play pick and roll?

[indeedproceed]

Hey Stephen Curry, 3rd best spot-up shooter, 13th best pick and roll player ballhander, and 13th best player off of screens, what's new.

"Aw nothin much. Just hangin out with my main pick and roll man Nik Pek, chillin."

Aw cool, Stephen Curry! What are you gonna do later?

"Probably playin some defense, where I'm the 23rd best defender in isolation, and 67th best defender on the pick and roll ballhandler. You know. Maxin."

[jgod213]

Back on topic

Love those Boxers.

Russell Westbrook - superduperstar
Iman Shumpert - he will miss only a third of the season and be there for the playoffs
Paul George - ready for a huge breakout season
Jonas Valanciunas - who may still come off the bench, but you heard it here first, he will beat out Anthony Davis for Rookie of the Year. He's that good.
Marcin Grotat - he's for real and a 15/11/1.5 beast. If he was on a contender people would be calling him the 2nd or 3rd best center in the league.

I really like it but I think you could use some floor spacing

Yeah...I agree. But if teams with 4 players, no picks until the 7th round, and a really old PG coming off a lost season due to injury can be seen be some as the top team, I'm pretty sure the Boxers will be abke to solve their spacing problems with a couple more picks.

Honest disclosure, I see Big Val as my 6th man and will be drafting my starting PF coming up in the next round or so.

haha, not really sure what that answer has to do with the opinion you were responding to, but i like that people are already getting nervous. man it feels good to be a frontrunner.

[nickagneta]

Back on topic

Love those Boxers.

Russell Westbrook - superduperstar
Iman Shumpert - he will miss only a third of the season and be there for the playoffs
Paul George - ready for a huge breakout season
Jonas Valanciunas - who may still come off the bench, but you heard it here first, he will beat outlet Anthony Davis for Rookie of the Year. He's that good.
UMarcin Grotat - he's for real and a 15/11/1.5 beast. If he was on a contender people would be calling him uthe 2nd or 3rd best center in the league.

I really like it but I think you could use some floor spacing

Yeah...I agree. But if teams with 4 players, no picks until the 7th round, and a really old PG coming off a lost season due to injury can be seen be some as the top team, I'm pretty sure the Boxers will be abke to solve their spacing problems with a couple more picks.

Honest disclosure, I see Big Val as my 6th man and will be drafting my starting PF coming up in the next round or so.

haha, not really sure what that answer has to do with the opinion you were responding to, but i like that people are already getting nervous. man it feels good to be a frontrunner.

Nervous? Hardly. Actually one team you better hope you don't get matched up against are the Boxers. Gortat knows all Howard's moves, Johnson doesn't have his standard height advantage to shoot over a SG when matched against George or Shumpert, and Chauncey will get destroyed by Westbrook, probably in a game deciding and series deciding manner.

And we already have a bench being built and two more picks before your next.

Be afraid of the Pack Portland. Be very afraid.

[Roy H.]

Aw cool, Stephen Curry! What are you gonna do later?

Probably have another ankle surgery, like the two he's had in the last year. 

Sobering fact:  the last guy I can remember injuring his ankles repeatedly like that was Wally Sczerbiak.  Seriously, what did Curry have, something like 8 or 9 major sprains over parts of two seasons?

[jgod213]

Is...is that Nick back there? I'm not sure i can make him out...

[indeedproceed]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=westbru01&p2=howardw01

Its interesting. Westbrook has big games and not so big games against Howard. Billups though, he should just absolutely shred.

This however is a bit more telling:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=gortama01&p2=howardw01

[indeedproceed]

Aw cool, Stephen Curry! What are you gonna do later?

Probably have another ankle surgery, like the two he's had in the last year. 

Sobering fact:  the last guy I can remember injuring his ankles repeatedly like that was Wally Sczerbiak.  Seriously, what did Curry have, something like 8 or 9 major sprains over parts of two seasons?

Roy I traded for him from you after you assured me and everyone on this blog that he was a 'sure thing'. That his injury issues were completely overblown. You even implied that a guy like Bynum was a bigger injury risk.

Are you telling me that you lied and didn't believe any of that just to get someone to bite on Stephen Curry?