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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #480 on: July 30, 2012, 01:37:00 PM »

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Okay so right now G.S. is looking at:

SG Manu Ginobili
SG Klay Thompson
Point Forward Andre Iguodala
PF Anthony Davis
C Channing Frye

Point forwards sound nice in theory, but I think there's a reason why they are so rarely used in the NBA.  The only time they are really used is when a starting pg goes to the bench.

The defending NBA champions have the best point forward in the game and don't elect to use him as one, but instead start a point guard that hasn't even been drafted yet.

I'd imagine that any real NBA coach that had this squad would probably prefer any available PG to start at PG and then bring one of your wings off the bench as 6th man.

Thank for the response Action. I'd respond that conventional coaching wisdom doesn't always hold - for example benching starters for early foul trouble. Also functionally I'm not sure what's to be gained by starting Mario Chalmers - he's off the board so we can discuss him now - and his 4.4 assists per 36 over either Manu Ginobili and his 6.9 assists per or Iguodala and his 5.5? Manu is a better passer than Mario and a strong enough ball handler to handle pressure in the backcourt, does it help if I just label him my 1?

Also I'll be very interested to see if the actual Heat don't at least consider starting Wade and Ray together in the backcourt.

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #481 on: July 30, 2012, 02:08:05 PM »

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PG: Deron Williams, Rodney Stuckey
SG: Gordon Hayward
SF: Danilo Gallinari
PF: Zach Randolph, Andrei Kirilenko
C:  Omer Asik

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #482 on: July 30, 2012, 02:10:23 PM »

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PG: Deron Williams, Rodney Stuckey
SG: Gordon Hayward
SF: Danilo Gallinari
PF: Zach Randolph, Andrei Kirilenko
C:  Omer Asik

I'd like to see you start ak7 over Gallo. I don't like Hayward and Gallo together defensively on the wings.

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #483 on: July 30, 2012, 02:12:36 PM »

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PG: Deron Williams, Rodney Stuckey
SG: Gordon Hayward
SF: Danilo Gallinari
PF: Zach Randolph, Andrei Kirilenko
C:  Omer Asik

While Hayward has the skills to play 2, is he quick enough.

Even then this is a great team.
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #484 on: July 30, 2012, 02:18:32 PM »

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PG: Deron Williams, Rodney Stuckey
SG: Gordon Hayward
SF: Danilo Gallinari
PF: Zach Randolph, Andrei Kirilenko
C:  Omer Asik

I'd like to see you start ak7 over Gallo. I don't like Hayward and Gallo together defensively on the wings.

Yeah, I thought about that some when I was deciding to draft Hayward and trying to figure out how best to use him. Either as a starter or as 7th man type. Try to get a high wing defender in there.

In the end, I decided I liked them best together as starters. That by the time I got around to selecting that wing defender, inserting them into the starting lineup wouldn't be a net-gain for me.

I think both guys are pretty solid defensively and add a lot offensively. I think their ability to make plays offensively will give my team a regular advantage over the defensive role player types at both the SG and SF positions. Overall, I felt those matchup advantages would add more to my team than the wing defender I would've ended up with.

I don't consider Kirilenko a strong enough man-to-man defender on the wing to put him in the starting unit over Gallinari. Plus, I like AK-47's game a lot less at SF than I do at PF. I think Kirilenko offers the most to my team as a game-changing PF off the bench.

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« Reply #485 on: July 30, 2012, 02:20:13 PM »

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Here's my team through 7 rounds:

C: Brook Lopez
PF: Taj Gibson
SF: Danny Green
SG: James Harden
PG: John Wall
6: Drew Gooden
7: Ramon Sessions

Thoughts?
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #486 on: July 30, 2012, 02:20:39 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #487 on: July 30, 2012, 02:22:23 PM »

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PG: Deron Williams, Rodney Stuckey
SG: Gordon Hayward
SF: Danilo Gallinari
PF: Zach Randolph, Andrei Kirilenko
C:  Omer Asik

While Hayward has the skills to play 2, is he quick enough.

Even then this is a great team.
Yeah, definitely. It's Hayward's natural position.

He isn't strong / physical enough to play the SF position full time. Is a liability as a defender/rebounder as a consequence. He fares much better as a two guard. He also uses his size well (6-7) offensively. He is a much more effective player there at SG than SF. 

Hayward spent the majority of his court time at SG for Utah last year. The only reason he spent significant time at SF was because Utah was overloaded at SG and had no SFs on their roster.

A big two rather than an small three.

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #488 on: July 30, 2012, 02:22:51 PM »

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Here's my team through 7 rounds:

C: Brook Lopez
PF: Taj Gibson
SF: Danny Green
SG: James Harden
PG: John Wall
6: Drew Gooden
7: Ramon Sessions

Thoughts?

i might be more of a fan of gooden than most but i think he compliments gibson very well off the bench. this is a terific team for TOTF, and if lopez & wall progress properly they should have playoff aspirations immediately. 

not much veteran leadership provided here tho, might be something worth addressing at some point.

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #489 on: July 30, 2012, 02:28:30 PM »

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Here's my team through 7 rounds:

C: Brook Lopez
PF: Taj Gibson
SF: Danny Green
SG: James Harden
PG: John Wall
6: Drew Gooden
7: Ramon Sessions

Thoughts?

i might be more of a fan of gooden than most but i think he compliments gibson very well off the bench. this is a terific team for TOTF, and if lopez & wall progress properly they should have playoff aspirations immediately. 

not much veteran leadership provided here tho, might be something worth addressing at some point.
I didn't like adding Gooden. I think Drew Gooden and Brook Lopez will be a train wreck together defensively.

I liked the Ramon Sessions pick. Very good backup PG. Not sure Sessions and Wall could play together though which would limit his playing time. May have been better off going with a shooter at backup PG.

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #490 on: July 30, 2012, 02:30:23 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #491 on: July 30, 2012, 02:44:41 PM »

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Wow, very interesting mix of talents here.  You've got scoring, you've got defense, you've got rebounding, you've got shooting, you've got depth.  Talent/depth-wise, this is one of the top teams in the draft so far.

I just don't know how it all fits.  I think I'd like to see a more steady point guard than Tyreke with this squad. There were a few PGs who were drafted in the 3rd round that I'd like a ton on this team over Tyreke.

A side note is that I'd also expect this team to appeal much more to people who watched more NBA basketball two years ago than they have recently.  I'm in that group which is why I might like this team more than others too.
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #492 on: July 30, 2012, 02:45:25 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #493 on: July 30, 2012, 02:46:28 PM »

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Wow, very interesting mix of talents here.  You've got scoring, you've got defense, you've got rebounding, you've got shooting, you've got depth.  Talent/depth-wise, this is one of the top teams in the draft so far.

I just don't know how it all fits.  I think I'd like to see a more steady point guard than Tyreke with this squad. There were a few PGs who were drafted in the 3rd round that I'd like a ton on this team over Tyreke.

A side note is that I'd also expect this team to appeal much more to people who watched more NBA basketball two years ago than they have recently.  I'm in that group which is why I might like this team more than others too.

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #494 on: July 30, 2012, 02:48:15 PM »

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Nice!  Get a lot of depth at the C going forward so you can give Timmy his days off.
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