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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #495 on: July 30, 2012, 02:49:34 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #496 on: July 30, 2012, 02:49:40 PM »

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Nice!  Get a lot of depth at the C going forward so you can give Timmy his days off.

Thats why i picked up Dalembert before grabbing my starting SF.  Knew i needed a quality backup to let timmy get his beauty rest
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #497 on: July 30, 2012, 02:52:20 PM »

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Mbah A Moute
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George Hill

Nice!  Get a lot of depth at the C going forward so you can give Timmy his days off.

Thats why i picked up Dalembert before grabbing my starting SF.  Knew i needed a quality backup to let timmy get his beauty rest

I love the idea of Mbah a Moute playing the PF spot (when David West is resting) alongside Tim Duncan. He'll work well with Sammy Dalembert there too.

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #498 on: July 30, 2012, 02:53:45 PM »

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Tim Duncan/Sam Dalembert
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Mbah A Moute
Kobe
George Hill

Nice!  Get a lot of depth at the C going forward so you can give Timmy his days off.

Thats why i picked up Dalembert before grabbing my starting SF.  Knew i needed a quality backup to let timmy get his beauty rest

I love the idea of Mbah a Moute playing the PF spot (when David West is resting) alongside Tim Duncan. He'll work well with Sammy Dalembert there too.

Yup Mbah does give us flexibility if we decide to go small. for spurts
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #499 on: July 30, 2012, 02:58:43 PM »

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Okay so right now G.S. is looking at:

SG Manu Ginobili
SG Klay Thompson
Point Forward Andre Iguodala
PF Anthony Davis
C Channing Frye

Point forwards sound nice in theory, but I think there's a reason why they are so rarely used in the NBA.  The only time they are really used is when a starting pg goes to the bench.

The defending NBA champions have the best point forward in the game and don't elect to use him as one, but instead start a point guard that hasn't even been drafted yet.

I'd imagine that any real NBA coach that had this squad would probably prefer any available PG to start at PG and then bring one of your wings off the bench as 6th man.

Thank for the response Action. I'd respond that conventional coaching wisdom doesn't always hold - for example benching starters for early foul trouble. Also functionally I'm not sure what's to be gained by starting Mario Chalmers - he's off the board so we can discuss him now - and his 4.4 assists per 36 over either Manu Ginobili and his 6.9 assists per or Iguodala and his 5.5? Manu is a better passer than Mario and a strong enough ball handler to handle pressure in the backcourt, does it help if I just label him my 1?

Also I'll be very interested to see if the actual Heat don't at least consider starting Wade and Ray together in the backcourt.

Maybe not starting him over Manu or Chalmers, but maybe over Thompson.  (Or maybe over Manu, I really like Manu off the bench, but that's up to you.)

And personally, I can't find Manu to be a particularly better passer than Chalmers just because of assists/36 stats.  Manu has the ball in his hands a ton on offense for the Spurs and Mario does very little for the Heat.  When playing alongside ball dominant wings, point guards often don't get much opportunities for assists.  See what happened to assist stats when Jason Williams went to Miami, Chauncey went to Denver, Mo Williams' drop when he signed with Cleveland then spike back up once Lebron left, etc.  Chalmers plays alongside not one, but two ball dominant wings currently.  His best assists seasons where his first two NBA seasons before Lebron came and even then he was still playing alongside Wade.
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #500 on: July 30, 2012, 02:59:00 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #501 on: July 30, 2012, 03:04:14 PM »

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Through 7...

Roster (and projected starting 5 and rotation)

PG - Jason Kidd (Holiday)
SG - Jrue Holiday / Brandon Rush / (MKG)
SF - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist / Harrison Barnes
PF - Thaddeus Young / Ander Drummond
C  - Andrew Bogut / (Drummond)

Meh.
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C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #502 on: July 30, 2012, 03:04:47 PM »

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Manu is a better passer than Mario and a strong enough ball handler to handle pressure in the backcourt, does it help if I just label him my 1?

I think Manu would be much more effective on offense coming off a screen or catching the ball with a live dribble still an option.  He wouldn't be able to do that if he's running the 1.  I think Manu could run the 1, but I just don't think your maximizing his abilities by having him do so.
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #503 on: July 30, 2012, 03:05:07 PM »

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Through 7...

Roster (and projected starting 5 and rotation)

PG - Jason Kidd (Holiday)
SG - Jrue Holiday / Brandon Rush / (MKG)
SF - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist / Harrison Barnes
PF - Thaddeus Young / Ander Drummond
C  - Andrew Bogut / (Drummond)

Meh.

You would have been better off building on Monroe and Irving
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #504 on: July 30, 2012, 03:07:47 PM »

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Through 7...

Roster (and projected starting 5 and rotation)

PG - Jason Kidd (Holiday)
SG - Jrue Holiday / Brandon Rush / (MKG)
SF - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist / Harrison Barnes
PF - Thaddeus Young / Ander Drummond
C  - Andrew Bogut / (Drummond)

Meh.

Holiday as the starting SG?  I'd start Holiday at PG and bring Kidd off the bench.  Kidd's minutes have been declining at a very steady rate over the past few seasons.  He's going to be 40 years old next postseason!
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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #505 on: July 30, 2012, 03:08:03 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #506 on: July 30, 2012, 03:08:38 PM »

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Through 7...

Roster (and projected starting 5 and rotation)

PG - Jason Kidd (Holiday)
SG - Jrue Holiday / Brandon Rush / (MKG)
SF - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist / Harrison Barnes
PF - Thaddeus Young / Ander Drummond
C  - Andrew Bogut / (Drummond)

Meh.

You would have been better off building on Monroe and Irving

Obviously I have a lot to learn in this game. But lets not dwell on what happened already.  ;D
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PF: LaMarcus Aldridge / Shareef Abdur-Raheem / Ben Simmons
C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #507 on: July 30, 2012, 03:12:28 PM »

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Through 7...

Roster (and projected starting 5 and rotation)

PG - Jason Kidd (Holiday)
SG - Jrue Holiday / Brandon Rush / (MKG)
SF - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist / Harrison Barnes
PF - Thaddeus Young / Ander Drummond
C  - Andrew Bogut / (Drummond)

Meh.

Holiday as the starting SG?  I'd start Holiday at PG and bring Kidd off the bench.  Kidd's minutes have been declining at a very steady rate over the past few seasons.  He's going to be 40 years old next postseason!

Well, yeah. The idea is to get the offense flowing for the first few minutes. Kidd will not log a ton of time at PG, most of it is Jrue. But to set the pace in the first few minutes, I put J.Kidd in (say 4 minutes in) so there will be some rhythm on the offense.
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SF: Paul Pierce / Tayshaun Prince / Brian Scalabrine
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge / Shareef Abdur-Raheem / Ben Simmons
C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #508 on: July 30, 2012, 03:13:10 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #509 on: July 30, 2012, 03:18:02 PM »

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Through 7...

Roster (and projected starting 5 and rotation)

PG - Jason Kidd (Holiday)
SG - Jrue Holiday / Brandon Rush / (MKG)
SF - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist / Harrison Barnes
PF - Thaddeus Young / Ander Drummond
C  - Andrew Bogut / (Drummond)

Meh.

Holiday as the starting SG?  I'd start Holiday at PG and bring Kidd off the bench.  Kidd's minutes have been declining at a very steady rate over the past few seasons.  He's going to be 40 years old next postseason!

Well, yeah. The idea is to get the offense flowing for the first few minutes. Kidd will not log a ton of time at PG, most of it is Jrue. But to set the pace in the first few minutes, I put J.Kidd in (say 4 minutes in) so there will be some rhythm on the offense.

I would keep Jrue as my starting PG and bring Kidd off the bench too.

I would have Kidd on the floor late in games though. For his defense, possession creation, secondary ball-handling (behind Holiday) and spot-up shooting late in games.