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Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2012, 10:00:31 AM »

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I'd like to have a better handle on our financials for next year. If using this exception on a 2 year contract prevents us from using the full MLE, I rather not use it. By the same token, if we won't have the full MLE next year, we should use it this year. By the same token, we can just hand out a one-year BAE contract and keep the flexibility for next year.

Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2012, 10:02:18 AM »

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Celtics could become a powerhouse by doing a deal simular to Cleveland wants to do.

Bynum would probally push the Celtics to the head of the Class.

KG + Bynum + Rondo +Pierce.  ... would be pretty good starting lineup.

Bynum would get all the shots he could stand from Rondo in the Paint.


Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2012, 10:04:44 AM »

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What about the BAE for Delfino? (sign him instead of Pietrus)


Delfino might be able to get backup SF minutes if Green ends up playing a good bit at PF and KG at Center.



We have two very good options at PF in Wilcox and Bass, plus Sully. We're deep at guards. And Pierce and Green can eat the SF minutes. We need a reserve guy at SF, but I don't think Delfino is it, I'm OK with Joseph.

I'm hoping for Darko at minimum, but wouldn't mind getting Steis at BAE either.

Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2012, 10:14:55 AM »

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What about the BAE for Delfino? (sign him instead of Pietrus)


Delfino might be able to get backup SF minutes if Green ends up playing a good bit at PF and KG at Center.



I think we need to do it on a big man.  While you're right that Green should play quite a bit of 4 this year, once Bradley comes back the 1-2 is such a log jam that Doc is going to be forced to play Lee at the 3 to get him enough minutes

Thus, it doesn't seem a good utilization of resources to spend the BAE on Delfino, who likely will never play, when we could have someone like Marquis Daniels fill that spot for the minimum. 

While I think that, when healthy, we'll probably be able to cover all the 4/5 minutes with Bass, Green, Sullinger, KG, Wilcox, and maybe some spot minutes from Melo, I do think given the rawness of Melo and Sully, the health concerns around KG, Green, and Wilcox, and the overall lack of health, we could definitely use another legit 7-footer who we wouldn't hesitate to play at least 15-20 mpg in a playoffs game.   

Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2012, 10:15:11 AM »

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Chris Anderson is legitimately 5 times better than Greg Stiemsma and we could most likely get him with the BAE.

Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2012, 10:24:54 AM »

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Chris Anderson is legitimately 5 times better than Greg Stiemsma and we could most likely get him with the BAE.

Judging by the fact that Birdman fell out of the rotation in Denver in back to back seasons should tell everyone that he is worth no more than the minimum.  He really hasn't done anything significant since 2010.

Speaking of a player who hasn't done anything significant in years.  I think the gamble that would be the icing on the cake for this offseason would be for Danny to roll the dice and make an offer to Greg Oden for two years at the BAE.  If he can be healthy enough to contribute towards the second half of the season and into the playoffs I think this would be a risk worth taking.  When healthy he really did a great job of defending the paint & rebounding in limited minutes.  With Greg Oden's stock at an all time low, I think this is the type of risk that will hopefully pay a handsome reward.

Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2012, 10:26:02 AM »

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Chris Anderson is legitimately 5 times better than Greg Stiemsma and we could most likely get him with the BAE.

and we know Danny likes him, or at least he did a couple of years ago, almost signing him.

Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2012, 10:36:24 AM »

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Chris Anderson is legitimately 5 times better than Greg Stiemsma and we could most likely get him with the BAE.

Wow!! I didn't know Chris Anderson was that good.  He's going to be averaging 35 pts., 40 rebs., and 20 blks. per 36 minutes?

That is impressive.
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Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2012, 10:46:28 AM »

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Chris Anderson is legitimately 5 times better than Greg Stiemsma and we could most likely get him with the BAE.

Wow!! I didn't know Chris Anderson was that good.  He's going to be averaging 35 pts., 40 rebs., and 20 blks. per 36 minutes?

That is impressive.

Lol, TP. Why all the hate on Stiemsma? People forget easily, before his foot injury he was playing like a legit backup big, a very good one at that. Remember that game at Miami at the tail end of the season (the one where everyone was healthy and playing) where the Cs just throttled the Heat? Stiemsma came in and played like Serge Ibaka. At the right price, let's get him back.


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Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2012, 10:59:56 AM »

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I want someone who is tough enough to knock down Lebron and Wade when they drive to the hoop. A ten minutes, 5 fouls enforcer type.

Maybe Ben Wallace?

We will have plenty of offense on the second unit, so defense, rebounding and physical play are critical. Stiemsma is a good defender, but not physical or a good rebounder.



Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2012, 11:07:22 AM »

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Lol @ ben wallace.why don't we just call karl malone, charles bakley/oakley rasheed also so we can bring in a tough has been player.

Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2012, 11:14:23 AM »

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I want someone who is tough enough to knock down Lebron and Wade when they drive to the hoop. A ten minutes, 5 fouls enforcer type.Maybe Ben Wallace?

We will have plenty of offense on the second unit, so defense, rebounding and physical play are critical. Stiemsma is a good defender, but not physical or a good rebounder.


Stiemsa can get 5 fouls in ten minutes...OR LESS
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Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2012, 11:18:51 AM »

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Stiemsma should be offered the BAE the question is will he accept it.

I am of the mind that we need another 7 footer to back up KG and the Steamboat is our best option.
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Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2012, 11:19:25 AM »

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I'd say yes, a year into system, healthy, can hit the jumpers and obviously one of the best shot blockers in ENTIRE LEAGUE.  
to me you do the "perk" theory
starting lineup of :
rondo
bradley
pierce
kg
you can start greg at center, playing next to kg he'll make up for any deficiencies

backcourt of rondo and bradley they will harass guys into twin tower shot blockers
that starting lineup your weak link on defense is either pp (who is a VERY good team defender) or stiemsma who might lead league in blocks
also another year in he won't be called for the tic tack fouls that refs call on younger guys, remember bradley's fouls
I'd sign him that would give us centers, greg, wilcox and kg

let me add in maybe less $ than minny offered but if we offer him starting spot?

Re: Do we now use the BAE on Stiemsma?
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2012, 11:23:37 AM »

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Lol @ ben wallace.why don't we just call karl malone, charles bakley/oakley rasheed also so we can bring in a tough has been player.

That was my initial thought, but when I just did some more research, I did find that at the age of 37 he actually played in 62 of 66 games for Detroit, starting 11.  

He did only put up 1.4 ppg, 4.3 rpg, and .8 bpg; however, that was only over 15.8 minutes per game.  

If you convert that to a 36 mpg average, that turns into 3.1/9.9/1.9, which isn't that far off his average his last year in Detroit ('05-06) where he averaged 7.4/11.5/2.3 over 36 mpg.

By no means am I arguing that he's the same player he was.  However, if we only expect him to come in and play 10-15 mpg, it looks like he can still provide some help on the boards and with defense.  And not to KG, he may find that he's even more reinvigorated.