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Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2012, 12:22:32 PM »

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I know that Blatche is a knucklehead, but is he a cancer? It seems like virtually everyone who played in Washington during the last several seasons was some type of "problem" player, but I really wonder if that's more because of the terrible environment with the Wizards and less because of the players. In other words, if placed in a stable, disciplined environment (such as Boston), could a guy such as Blatche become a productive, nonharmful member of basketball society? In particular, when you consider the dearth of skilled big men, or even of guys who are just plain big, it seems almost foolish to pass on a skilled 6-11 player who could really shore up your team's front line and may come at the vet min. Is he really that bad?

Precisely. For example, let's look at Nick Young and JaVale McGee, both from the dreaded Washington environment. Young and McGee both meshed well with their new teams and only contributed to the collective team performance. They didn't cause any locker room problems or disrupt team chemistry. I think it has more to do with the notorious Wizards' environment more than the players themselves.

I think Young is a bit of a false positive. The Clippers elected not to bring him back after picking him up midway through last season. Perhaps it was Young's production with the Clippers (22 games, 23.5 mpg, 9.7 ppg on sub 40% shooting) that discouraged them from bringing him back.

As for McGee, the jury is still out on him. George Karl may be the right coach for him, but time will tell.

Blatche has been in the league for seven seasons. He's had Eddie Jordan, Flip Saunders, and Randy Wittman as head coaches. Do we really blame those three for not motivating him to play up to par?

Not every player in the NBA cares about winning, or even being the best he can be. Some are just in it for a paycheck. Nothing wrong with that, but sometimes you shouldn't bother making a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
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Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2012, 12:28:58 PM »

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I would give him the biannual for two years, he is a gamble but with so much upside, plus he's 7 feet.

Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2012, 12:35:31 PM »

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Some fans have too much pride in letting this type of guy in the organization.

They prefer playing it sage rather than taking risks. Some people would rather have a gimpy Leon power back than Blatxhe.

I am not one of those fans. As currently constituted we at best have a punters chance of making it to the finals. There is no logical reason to not tale on a low risk high reward guy.


Some fans don't want to waste time with a bum.

A bum who improved every year. Averaged solid numbers at one point.

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Some fans do not want this bum close to the young big men the Celtics have. 

This one I give you, which is why it's a gamble.

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Plus, the Celtics need a C.  Not an oversized bum who wants to be a SF.
 

While he does play like a SF offensively, he will play C defensively that's for sure. He'll help us in the rebounding department.

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A guy that never gets closer then 15 feet from the basket on offensive when playing against the likes of Howard. 

Who said he would go inside more if defenders would go after his pump fakes more because he is afraid to get blocked. 


That's actually okay if you ask me. He can hit mid range shots, he'll open up Rondo's driving lane and Rondo can dish it out to him for an open shot.

Again all this gamble if it's for the minimum or BAE. That's not too much for a skilled big man.
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Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2012, 12:40:37 PM »

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Yep. He would really give us a formidable frontcourt. I think what you criticize is actually his forte in his versatility.

PF: Blatche, Bass, Sullinger
C: KG, Wilcox, Sullinger, Melo

Awesome!

Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2012, 12:43:24 PM »

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Some fans have too much pride in letting this type of guy in the organization.

They prefer playing it sage rather than taking risks. Some people would rather have a gimpy Leon power back than Blatxhe.

I am not one of those fans. As currently constituted we at best have a punters chance of making it to the finals. There is no logical reason to not tale on a low risk high reward guy.


Some fans don't want to waste time with a bum.

A bum who improved every year. Averaged solid numbers at one point.

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Some fans do not want this bum close to the young big men the Celtics have. 

This one I give you, which is why it's a gamble.

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Plus, the Celtics need a C.  Not an oversized bum who wants to be a SF.
 

While he does play like a SF offensively, he will play C defensively that's for sure. He'll help us in the rebounding department.

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A guy that never gets closer then 15 feet from the basket on offensive when playing against the likes of Howard. 

Who said he would go inside more if defenders would go after his pump fakes more because he is afraid to get blocked. 


That's actually okay if you ask me. He can hit mid range shots, he'll open up Rondo's driving lane and Rondo can dish it out to him for an open shot.

Again all this gamble if it's for the minimum or BAE. That's not too much for a skilled big man.


He does not play like a C on defense.  That would mean he actually tried to play defense.  He doesn't.  When Flip Saunders  benches you because you will not play defense to Flip's standards...



He has gifts.  He is wasting his gifts.  I have not heard one fan in the DC area that was sad to see him go.

Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2012, 12:44:29 PM »

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I think Flip Saunders opinion will ultimately decide if we go after him. If we don't, then whatever Flip told Ainge and Doc was likely pretty bad.

Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2012, 12:45:42 PM »

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I think Flip Saunders opinion will ultimately decide if we go after him. If we don't, then whatever Flip told Ainge and Doc was likely pretty bad.


Then this conversation can end. 

Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2012, 12:45:50 PM »

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Some fans have too much pride in letting this type of guy in the organization.

They prefer playing it sage rather than taking risks. Some people would rather have a gimpy Leon power back than Blatxhe.

I am not one of those fans. As currently constituted we at best have a punters chance of making it to the finals. There is no logical reason to not tale on a low risk high reward guy.


Some fans don't want to waste time with a bum.

A bum who improved every year. Averaged solid numbers at one point.

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Some fans do not want this bum close to the young big men the Celtics have. 

This one I give you, which is why it's a gamble.

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Plus, the Celtics need a C.  Not an oversized bum who wants to be a SF.
 

While he does play like a SF offensively, he will play C defensively that's for sure. He'll help us in the rebounding department.

Quote
A guy that never gets closer then 15 feet from the basket on offensive when playing against the likes of Howard. 

Who said he would go inside more if defenders would go after his pump fakes more because he is afraid to get blocked. 


That's actually okay if you ask me. He can hit mid range shots, he'll open up Rondo's driving lane and Rondo can dish it out to him for an open shot.

Again all this gamble if it's for the minimum or BAE. That's not too much for a skilled big man.


He does not play like a C on defense.  That would mean he actually tried to play defense.  He doesn't.  When Flip Saunders  benches you because you will not play defense to Flip's standards...



He has gifts.  He is wasting his gifts.  I have not heard one fan in the DC area that was sad to see him go.

Not in Washington, but again that's part of the gamble. The change of scenery by being here might make him play more defense than he did in DC. I mean, Stephon during those days and Nate wasn't known for their defense, and we got them playing D.
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Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2012, 12:51:51 PM »

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Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2012, 12:53:16 PM »

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I just find it hilarious that people would rather have Ryan Hollins at the min than Blanche its laughable.

Who cares if he said he was soft (what was the quote)

There are 100's of guys in the league that are soft, at least he has some skills and talent. Oooohh because he mentioned it interview once he's off limits?

Other teams passed on him? Is this a joke? This is really a reason? Let's just base all our scouting reports and evaluations based off of what other teams do.

Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2012, 12:54:54 PM »

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I just find it hilarious that people would rather have Ryan Hollins at the min than Blanche its laughable.

Who cares if he said he was soft (what was the quote)

There are 100's of guys in the league that are soft, at least he has some skills and talent. Oooohh because he mentioned it interview once he's off limits?

Other teams passed on him? Is this a joke? This is really a reason? Let's just base all our scouting reports and evaluations based off of what other teams do.
The dude got sent home from his team, spent his time promoting strip clubs, and now is tweeting about it all in a mocking tone.

I don't see him fitting with the C's or getting playing time. Plus his ego isn't going to allow him to take the minimum.

Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2012, 01:03:23 PM »

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to da poster who said heads in DC aint sad Blatche is gone. lol HELL NO i kno someone who ordered a bushel of crabs nd had a BBQ when he found out Blatche got amnestied. they also had an Amnesty party at da club for Blatche a few days ago he was one of DC's most hated athletes

Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2012, 01:18:12 PM »

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I would like to bring him in. At this point we have four guys who can give us certain (if healthy) minutes at the big positions (KG, Green, Wilcox, Bass). I expect us to play small early and often, especially after Bradley comes back.

With what we have we don't need to depend on Blatche. We could sign him and put him in a position where he has to earn minutes over Sullinger, Melo, and Johnson.

This is at the minimum though.
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Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2012, 01:37:40 PM »

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Tommy would just about die if we get Andray Blatche...

Re: Andray Blatche Expected To Clear Waivers
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2012, 01:40:42 PM »

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I just find it hilarious that people would rather have Ryan Hollins at the min than Blanche its laughable.

Who cares if he said he was soft (what was the quote)

There are 100's of guys in the league that are soft, at least he has some skills and talent. Oooohh because he mentioned it interview once he's off limits?

Other teams passed on him? Is this a joke? This is really a reason? Let's just base all our scouting reports and evaluations based off of what other teams do.
The dude got sent home from his team, spent his time promoting strip clubs, and now is tweeting about it all in a mocking tone.

I don't see him fitting with the C's or getting playing time. Plus his ego isn't going to allow him to take the minimum.

Ever see big baby or Starbury on Ustream?  Can't be worse//weirder than that.

Isn't it kind of ironic that a guy like big baby (im sure people deny it now) was a fan favorite and was a significant member for a few years on our team?

I mean are those guys that far off? I could easily see similar situations happen if there roles were reversed. Only difference is Blanche has a lot more talent.

I mean I would never even think of signing blatch to a long term deal or any significant money. I don't like him and I don't think he is a star or anything but I mean if it's the vet min and its either jajuan johnson, Ryan Hollins, or Sean Williams I at least have to pick blatche by default even if I don't like him.

Unless danny believed in jinxes (which seems like a lot of people here do) I don't see how danny passes on him if he pretty much falls on his lap