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Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #90 on: July 18, 2012, 08:09:24 PM »

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Alright, to end this back and forth, I'll pose the same question I answered earlier to you.

Why does LA always end up with talented big men?  Shaq, Gasol, potentially Dwight in recent years, Kareem, Wilt in past years?

If it isn't the market and it isn't the weather, are the Lakers just smarter than anyone else?  Does God just smile down on the Lakers?  What is the reason?

There are MANY reasons as I have already stated. Again, I only said something about the 3 people mentioned in that post (Shaq, Pau, and DH)... if Hollywood was in Bos, Shaq would have chosen Bos (poor guy thought he was an actor... I still love Shaq though haha). Pau was traded there it wasn't his decision... LA gave the pieces to get him (as bad as the pieces were... CONTROVERSY lol). DH DOES NOT WANT TO GO THERE!!!

But Hollywood isn't in Boston and never will be.  We will see if Dwight signs an extension there.  The Lakers seem to think he will.

For all we know, Dwight may have the Lakers as his #2 option but is saying he only has 1 option to force his way to Brooklyn.

Time will tell.  But I bet Dwight ends up a Laker, and "doesn't want to go there" so badly that he signs a muti-year extension.

It seems most here agree with me too.  After all, if not, they'd want Dwight to be dealt to the Lakers.  Because then he'd leave because he hates it there and they'd lose Bynum for nothing.

No, we know that DH doesn't want to go there from his own mouth. Even if he hates it there he will probably stay b/c of 3 reasons (nothing to do with weather or market)... 1) the teams he would actually want to go to wont have the money to bring him in and 2) because LA will be able to pay more (just as any team he would be traded to would) and 3) because LA's team has the best group of players, if he left to any other team with the money to take him in, they don't have a good roster to win with!

Reason 1 and 2 apply to Cleveland and Houston.  Reasons 1, 2, and 3 apply to Indiana, possibly the Clippers, possibly Atlanta, and possibly Memphis.

But he'll likely end up in Los Angeles.  Odd coincidence.  

Anyway, that is all I have to say on the matter.  I feel like we both could go on all day. I appreciate our discussion and respect your point of view.

He will end up in LA but not because of weather and market! Again, LA has most of the pieces to acquire him. You keep saying those are the reason when it simply is not! One more time, DH doesn't want to go there! I really don't know how you could be disagreeing! I am not saying people don't choose because of that, we were talking about those 3 bigs (again I don't know about the ones before then) and only Shaq CHOSE to go there.


And you keep saying LA has the pieces to acquire him when in fact it is Cleveland that has the pieces Orlando wants.  So we're even.

How are we even? You haven't said one thing that disproves my post... the only person of the 3 bigs mentioned chose LA because of market (well, Hollywood)! If this happens, Clev. will gut their team or give up players and picks, something I already said any other team would have to do (and Clev will have Kyrie left which goes to the fact that they have plenty of pieces that other teams don't have)... of the 20+ other teams(you mentioned) how many of them have a package of what Clev is giving up?!
It takes me 3hrs to get to Miami and 1hr to get to Orlando... but I *SPIT* on their NBA teams! "Bless God and bless the (Celts)"-Lady GaGa (she said gays but she really meant Celts)

Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #91 on: July 18, 2012, 08:09:36 PM »

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We all know that Marc Cuban blocked CP3 to the Lakers, right? Just checking.

David Stern has always been Lakers puppet.

If you think Mark Cuban has more power than Stern, what does it matter if Stern is the Lakers puppet or not?  Your post makes such little sense.  

I'm sure your post much makes sense. But this is fact.

It's simple. They've got Hornets and made the deal and Cuban and other couple of owner stop this.

Anyway. I apologize for my English or grammar...

Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #92 on: July 18, 2012, 08:12:56 PM »

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He will end up in LA but not because of weather and market! Again, LA has most of the pieces to acquire him. You keep saying those are the reason when it simply is not! One more time, DH doesn't want to go there! I really don't know how you could be disagreeing! I am not saying people don't choose because of that, we were talking about those 3 bigs (again I don't know about the ones before then) and only Shaq CHOSE to go there.


Dwight, is that you?!?!? welcome to Celticsblog man.

either that, or mind reading is back en vogue.

Haha. Classic.

Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #93 on: July 18, 2012, 08:13:55 PM »

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Alright, to end this back and forth, I'll pose the same question I answered earlier to you.

Why does LA always end up with talented big men?  Shaq, Gasol, potentially Dwight in recent years, Kareem, Wilt in past years?

If it isn't the market and it isn't the weather, are the Lakers just smarter than anyone else?  Does God just smile down on the Lakers?  What is the reason?

There are MANY reasons as I have already stated. Again, I only said something about the 3 people mentioned in that post (Shaq, Pau, and DH)... if Hollywood was in Bos, Shaq would have chosen Bos (poor guy thought he was an actor... I still love Shaq though haha). Pau was traded there it wasn't his decision... LA gave the pieces to get him (as bad as the pieces were... CONTROVERSY lol). DH DOES NOT WANT TO GO THERE!!!

But Hollywood isn't in Boston and never will be.  We will see if Dwight signs an extension there.  The Lakers seem to think he will.

For all we know, Dwight may have the Lakers as his #2 option but is saying he only has 1 option to force his way to Brooklyn.

Time will tell.  But I bet Dwight ends up a Laker, and "doesn't want to go there" so badly that he signs a muti-year extension.

It seems most here agree with me too.  After all, if not, they'd want Dwight to be dealt to the Lakers.  Because then he'd leave because he hates it there and they'd lose Bynum for nothing.

No, we know that DH doesn't want to go there from his own mouth. Even if he hates it there he will probably stay b/c of 3 reasons (nothing to do with weather or market)... 1) the teams he would actually want to go to wont have the money to bring him in and 2) because LA will be able to pay more (just as any team he would be traded to would) and 3) because LA's team has the best group of players, if he left to any other team with the money to take him in, they don't have a good roster to win with!

Reason 1 and 2 apply to Cleveland and Houston.  Reasons 1, 2, and 3 apply to Indiana, possibly the Clippers, possibly Atlanta, and possibly Memphis.

But he'll likely end up in Los Angeles.  Odd coincidence.  

Anyway, that is all I have to say on the matter.  I feel like we both could go on all day. I appreciate our discussion and respect your point of view.

He will end up in LA but not because of weather and market! Again, LA has most of the pieces to acquire him. You keep saying those are the reason when it simply is not! One more time, DH doesn't want to go there! I really don't know how you could be disagreeing! I am not saying people don't choose because of that, we were talking about those 3 bigs (again I don't know about the ones before then) and only Shaq CHOSE to go there.


And you keep saying LA has the pieces to acquire him when in fact it is Cleveland that has the pieces Orlando wants.  So we're even.

How are we even? You haven't said one thing that disproves my post... the only person of the 3 bigs mentioned chose LA because of market (well, Hollywood)! If this happens, Clev. will gut their team or give up players and picks, something I already said any other team would have to do (and Clev will have Kyrie left which goes to the fact that they have plenty of pieces that other teams don't have)... of the 20+ other teams(you mentioned) how many of them have a package of what Clev is giving up?!

Let me say this... if the Bobcats had DWill and the money (max contract) I could see them getting DH if he was left to walk by Orl.!
It takes me 3hrs to get to Miami and 1hr to get to Orlando... but I *SPIT* on their NBA teams! "Bless God and bless the (Celts)"-Lady GaGa (she said gays but she really meant Celts)

Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #94 on: July 18, 2012, 08:15:59 PM »

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Alright, to end this back and forth, I'll pose the same question I answered earlier to you.

Why does LA always end up with talented big men?  Shaq, Gasol, potentially Dwight in recent years, Kareem, Wilt in past years?

If it isn't the market and it isn't the weather, are the Lakers just smarter than anyone else?  Does God just smile down on the Lakers?  What is the reason?

There are MANY reasons as I have already stated. Again, I only said something about the 3 people mentioned in that post (Shaq, Pau, and DH)... if Hollywood was in Bos, Shaq would have chosen Bos (poor guy thought he was an actor... I still love Shaq though haha). Pau was traded there it wasn't his decision... LA gave the pieces to get him (as bad as the pieces were... CONTROVERSY lol). DH DOES NOT WANT TO GO THERE!!!

But Hollywood isn't in Boston and never will be.  We will see if Dwight signs an extension there.  The Lakers seem to think he will.

For all we know, Dwight may have the Lakers as his #2 option but is saying he only has 1 option to force his way to Brooklyn.

Time will tell.  But I bet Dwight ends up a Laker, and "doesn't want to go there" so badly that he signs a muti-year extension.

It seems most here agree with me too.  After all, if not, they'd want Dwight to be dealt to the Lakers.  Because then he'd leave because he hates it there and they'd lose Bynum for nothing.

No, we know that DH doesn't want to go there from his own mouth. Even if he hates it there he will probably stay b/c of 3 reasons (nothing to do with weather or market)... 1) the teams he would actually want to go to wont have the money to bring him in and 2) because LA will be able to pay more (just as any team he would be traded to would) and 3) because LA's team has the best group of players, if he left to any other team with the money to take him in, they don't have a good roster to win with!

Reason 1 and 2 apply to Cleveland and Houston.  Reasons 1, 2, and 3 apply to Indiana, possibly the Clippers, possibly Atlanta, and possibly Memphis.

But he'll likely end up in Los Angeles.  Odd coincidence.  

Anyway, that is all I have to say on the matter.  I feel like we both could go on all day. I appreciate our discussion and respect your point of view.

He will end up in LA but not because of weather and market! Again, LA has most of the pieces to acquire him. You keep saying those are the reason when it simply is not! One more time, DH doesn't want to go there! I really don't know how you could be disagreeing! I am not saying people don't choose because of that, we were talking about those 3 bigs (again I don't know about the ones before then) and only Shaq CHOSE to go there.


And you keep saying LA has the pieces to acquire him when in fact it is Cleveland that has the pieces Orlando wants.  So we're even.

How are we even? You haven't said one thing that disproves my post... the only person of the 3 bigs mentioned chose LA because of market (well, Hollywood)! If this happens, Clev. will gut their team or give up players and picks, something I already said any other team would have to do (and Clev will have Kyrie left which goes to the fact that they have plenty of pieces that other teams don't have)... of the 20+ other teams(you mentioned) how many of them have a package of what Clev is giving up?!

Cleveland is one.  All it takes is one to make a trade.  Indiana, Memphis, Atlanta, Clippers all should be able to put together packages.

You're telling me, with a straight face, that Cleveland has the best assets in the NBA?  Really?  Wow.

Alright, to end this back and forth, I'll pose the same question I answered earlier to you.

Why does LA always end up with talented big men?  Shaq, Gasol, potentially Dwight in recent years, Kareem, Wilt in past years?

If it isn't the market and it isn't the weather, are the Lakers just smarter than anyone else?  Does God just smile down on the Lakers?  What is the reason?

There are MANY reasons as I have already stated. Again, I only said something about the 3 people mentioned in that post (Shaq, Pau, and DH)... if Hollywood was in Bos, Shaq would have chosen Bos (poor guy thought he was an actor... I still love Shaq though haha). Pau was traded there it wasn't his decision... LA gave the pieces to get him (as bad as the pieces were... CONTROVERSY lol). DH DOES NOT WANT TO GO THERE!!!

But Hollywood isn't in Boston and never will be.  We will see if Dwight signs an extension there.  The Lakers seem to think he will.

For all we know, Dwight may have the Lakers as his #2 option but is saying he only has 1 option to force his way to Brooklyn.

Time will tell.  But I bet Dwight ends up a Laker, and "doesn't want to go there" so badly that he signs a muti-year extension.

It seems most here agree with me too.  After all, if not, they'd want Dwight to be dealt to the Lakers.  Because then he'd leave because he hates it there and they'd lose Bynum for nothing.

No, we know that DH doesn't want to go there from his own mouth. Even if he hates it there he will probably stay b/c of 3 reasons (nothing to do with weather or market)... 1) the teams he would actually want to go to wont have the money to bring him in and 2) because LA will be able to pay more (just as any team he would be traded to would) and 3) because LA's team has the best group of players, if he left to any other team with the money to take him in, they don't have a good roster to win with!

Reason 1 and 2 apply to Cleveland and Houston.  Reasons 1, 2, and 3 apply to Indiana, possibly the Clippers, possibly Atlanta, and possibly Memphis.

But he'll likely end up in Los Angeles.  Odd coincidence. 

Anyway, that is all I have to say on the matter.  I feel like we both could go on all day. I appreciate our discussion and respect your point of view.

He will end up in LA but not because of weather and market! Again, LA has most of the pieces to acquire him. You keep saying those are the reason when it simply is not! One more time, DH doesn't want to go there! I really don't know how you could be disagreeing! I am not saying people don't choose because of that, we were talking about those 3 bigs (again I don't know about the ones before then) and only Shaq CHOSE to go there.


And you keep saying LA has the pieces to acquire him when in fact it is Cleveland that has the pieces Orlando wants.  So we're even.

How are we even? You haven't said one thing that disproves my post... the only person of the 3 bigs mentioned chose LA because of market (well, Hollywood)! If this happens, Clev. will gut their team or give up players and picks, something I already said any other team would have to do (and Clev will have Kyrie left which goes to the fact that they have plenty of pieces that other teams don't have)... of the 20+ other teams(you mentioned) how many of them have a package of what Clev is giving up?!

Let me say this... if the Bobcats had DWill and the money (max contract) I could see them getting DH if he was left to walk by Orl.!

I couldn't, so that's one of us.

Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #95 on: July 18, 2012, 08:20:34 PM »

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We all know that Marc Cuban blocked CP3 to the Lakers, right? Just checking.

David Stern has always been Lakers puppet.

If you think Mark Cuban has more power than Stern, what does it matter if Stern is the Lakers puppet or not?  Your post makes such little sense.  

I'm sure your post much makes sense. But this is fact.

It's simple. They've got Hornets and made the deal and Cuban and other couple of owner stop this.

Anyway. I apologize for my English or grammar...

That is your assumption.  I'd like to see some proof before that is offered as "fact".

Some people here should focus more on improving our own team and less on ridiculous conspiracy theories involving the Lakers.

Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #96 on: July 18, 2012, 08:22:09 PM »

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Alright, to end this back and forth, I'll pose the same question I answered earlier to you.

Why does LA always end up with talented big men?  Shaq, Gasol, potentially Dwight in recent years, Kareem, Wilt in past years?

If it isn't the market and it isn't the weather, are the Lakers just smarter than anyone else?  Does God just smile down on the Lakers?  What is the reason?

There are MANY reasons as I have already stated. Again, I only said something about the 3 people mentioned in that post (Shaq, Pau, and DH)... if Hollywood was in Bos, Shaq would have chosen Bos (poor guy thought he was an actor... I still love Shaq though haha). Pau was traded there it wasn't his decision... LA gave the pieces to get him (as bad as the pieces were... CONTROVERSY lol). DH DOES NOT WANT TO GO THERE!!!

But Hollywood isn't in Boston and never will be.  We will see if Dwight signs an extension there.  The Lakers seem to think he will.

For all we know, Dwight may have the Lakers as his #2 option but is saying he only has 1 option to force his way to Brooklyn.

Time will tell.  But I bet Dwight ends up a Laker, and "doesn't want to go there" so badly that he signs a muti-year extension.

It seems most here agree with me too.  After all, if not, they'd want Dwight to be dealt to the Lakers.  Because then he'd leave because he hates it there and they'd lose Bynum for nothing.

No, we know that DH doesn't want to go there from his own mouth. Even if he hates it there he will probably stay b/c of 3 reasons (nothing to do with weather or market)... 1) the teams he would actually want to go to wont have the money to bring him in and 2) because LA will be able to pay more (just as any team he would be traded to would) and 3) because LA's team has the best group of players, if he left to any other team with the money to take him in, they don't have a good roster to win with!

Reason 1 and 2 apply to Cleveland and Houston.  Reasons 1, 2, and 3 apply to Indiana, possibly the Clippers, possibly Atlanta, and possibly Memphis.

But he'll likely end up in Los Angeles.  Odd coincidence.  

Anyway, that is all I have to say on the matter.  I feel like we both could go on all day. I appreciate our discussion and respect your point of view.

He will end up in LA but not because of weather and market! Again, LA has most of the pieces to acquire him. You keep saying those are the reason when it simply is not! One more time, DH doesn't want to go there! I really don't know how you could be disagreeing! I am not saying people don't choose because of that, we were talking about those 3 bigs (again I don't know about the ones before then) and only Shaq CHOSE to go there.


And you keep saying LA has the pieces to acquire him when in fact it is Cleveland that has the pieces Orlando wants.  So we're even.

How are we even? You haven't said one thing that disproves my post... the only person of the 3 bigs mentioned chose LA because of market (well, Hollywood)! If this happens, Clev. will gut their team or give up players and picks, something I already said any other team would have to do (and Clev will have Kyrie left which goes to the fact that they have plenty of pieces that other teams don't have)... of the 20+ other teams(you mentioned) how many of them have a package of what Clev is giving up?!

Cleveland is one.  All it takes is one to make a trade.  Indiana, Memphis, Atlanta, Clippers all should be able to put together packages.

You're telling me, with a straight face, that Cleveland has the best assets in the NBA?  Really?  Wow.

Alright, to end this back and forth, I'll pose the same question I answered earlier to you.

Why does LA always end up with talented big men?  Shaq, Gasol, potentially Dwight in recent years, Kareem, Wilt in past years?

If it isn't the market and it isn't the weather, are the Lakers just smarter than anyone else?  Does God just smile down on the Lakers?  What is the reason?

There are MANY reasons as I have already stated. Again, I only said something about the 3 people mentioned in that post (Shaq, Pau, and DH)... if Hollywood was in Bos, Shaq would have chosen Bos (poor guy thought he was an actor... I still love Shaq though haha). Pau was traded there it wasn't his decision... LA gave the pieces to get him (as bad as the pieces were... CONTROVERSY lol). DH DOES NOT WANT TO GO THERE!!!

But Hollywood isn't in Boston and never will be.  We will see if Dwight signs an extension there.  The Lakers seem to think he will.

For all we know, Dwight may have the Lakers as his #2 option but is saying he only has 1 option to force his way to Brooklyn.

Time will tell.  But I bet Dwight ends up a Laker, and "doesn't want to go there" so badly that he signs a muti-year extension.

It seems most here agree with me too.  After all, if not, they'd want Dwight to be dealt to the Lakers.  Because then he'd leave because he hates it there and they'd lose Bynum for nothing.

No, we know that DH doesn't want to go there from his own mouth. Even if he hates it there he will probably stay b/c of 3 reasons (nothing to do with weather or market)... 1) the teams he would actually want to go to wont have the money to bring him in and 2) because LA will be able to pay more (just as any team he would be traded to would) and 3) because LA's team has the best group of players, if he left to any other team with the money to take him in, they don't have a good roster to win with!

Reason 1 and 2 apply to Cleveland and Houston.  Reasons 1, 2, and 3 apply to Indiana, possibly the Clippers, possibly Atlanta, and possibly Memphis.

But he'll likely end up in Los Angeles.  Odd coincidence.  

Anyway, that is all I have to say on the matter.  I feel like we both could go on all day. I appreciate our discussion and respect your point of view.

He will end up in LA but not because of weather and market! Again, LA has most of the pieces to acquire him. You keep saying those are the reason when it simply is not! One more time, DH doesn't want to go there! I really don't know how you could be disagreeing! I am not saying people don't choose because of that, we were talking about those 3 bigs (again I don't know about the ones before then) and only Shaq CHOSE to go there.


And you keep saying LA has the pieces to acquire him when in fact it is Cleveland that has the pieces Orlando wants.  So we're even.

How are we even? You haven't said one thing that disproves my post... the only person of the 3 bigs mentioned chose LA because of market (well, Hollywood)! If this happens, Clev. will gut their team or give up players and picks, something I already said any other team would have to do (and Clev will have Kyrie left which goes to the fact that they have plenty of pieces that other teams don't have)... of the 20+ other teams(you mentioned) how many of them have a package of what Clev is giving up?!

Let me say this... if the Bobcats had DWill and the money (max contract) I could see them getting DH if he was left to walk by Orl.!

I couldn't, so that's one of us.

Out of teams willing to give up all those pieces and still have someone left on their team to get DH to stay! How many teams can give up AV and probably other players and picks and are then left with a player of KI's caliber left (I think they would be getting Bynum)? To get these players you need to give up a lot... Clev. is of the few that can give up good pieces and still have someone (like a DW or KI or Pau and KoMe) to keep Bynum or DH when they are FA.


It's not that those other teams don't have the package to get them, it's what's left to get those players to stay. Most teams would have nothing left to keep those guys except money.
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Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #97 on: July 18, 2012, 08:28:15 PM »

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Out of teams willing to give up all those pieces and still have someone left on their team to get DH to stay! How many teams can give up AV and probably other players and picks and are then left with a player of KI's caliber left (I think they would be getting Bynum)? To get these players you need to give up a lot... Clev. is of the few that can give up good pieces and still have someone (like a DW or KI or Pau and KoMe) to keep Bynum or DH when they are FA.

-Atlanta can give up Horford, Teague, and a pick and still have Josh Smith (Dwight's best friend) and a ton of cap space.
-Memphis can give up Gay, Gasol, and a pick and still have Conley, Randolph, and TA
-The Clippers can give up Blake and still have CP3
-Indiana can give up Hibbert and Granger and still have David West and Paul George
-Golden State can give up Harrison Barnes, Andrew Bogut, and a pick and still have Stephen Curry

Those are just a few.  And once again, it only takes one to make a trade. Dwight isn't getting traded to six different teams.  Should only need one possible package.  Pick your favorite.

There are dozens of possibilities out there.

Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #98 on: July 18, 2012, 08:37:52 PM »

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Out of teams willing to give up all those pieces and still have someone left on their team to get DH to stay! How many teams can give up AV and probably other players and picks and are then left with a player of KI's caliber left (I think they would be getting Bynum)? To get these players you need to give up a lot... Clev. is of the few that can give up good pieces and still have someone (like a DW or KI or Pau and KoMe) to keep Bynum or DH when they are FA.

-Atlanta can give up Horford, Teague, and a pick and still have Josh Smith (Dwight's best friend) and a ton of cap space.
-Memphis can give up Gay, Gasol, and a pick and still have Conley, Randolph, and TA
-The Clippers can give up Blake and still have CP3
-Indiana can give up Hibbert and Granger and still have David West and Paul George
-Golden State can give up Harrison Barnes, Andrew Bogut, and a pick and still have Stephen Curry

Those are just a few.  And once again, it only takes one to make a trade. Dwight isn't getting traded to six different teams.  Should only need one possible package.  Pick your favorite.

There are dozens of possibilities out there.

First, Clev. isn't trying to get DH... why? I guess they don't think Kyrie would be enough to keep him so I'm sure those other teams feel the same about the pieces they'd be left with. They would be getting Bynum, that's only b/c LA wants DH so badly. Now Bynum seems to be easier to convince to stay than DH only because he hasn't come out and said I don't want to be in certain places! Do you see what the Nets offered and were still turned down? This is only speculation on Lakers getting DH through Clev. just as the other reports on them closing in on getting him. It's all in what Orl. wants... you would then have to assume (like we have been) 1) those teams haven't put out feelers to see if what they have is enough 2) that Orl. isn't looking for specific types of players (like a center).

Oh and Indiana seems to like that they don't have one star but a good TEAM. Maybe they don't want to mess that up! You aren't looking at things as a whole but just bits and pieces of a whole.

Wait, also you have to assume those other teams want to give up those pieces! I know DH is great but it doesn't mean every one of those teams want to give up multiple pieces to only get him!

Ooops, forgot to add that ATL cleaned house to get DH as a FA instead of giving up Horford who they want to play PF (natural position)!

No matter how you skirt around it... Shaq is the only one who chose to go there of the 3. I'm not going around in circles with you anymore when my first post was enough to answer your first thought. I never started to argue these other things but I'm bored with no Celts news LOL! Good luck!
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Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #99 on: July 18, 2012, 08:58:19 PM »

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The funny thing here is that even IF DH gets to LA somehow, they still won't beat OKC.

LA is better already with Steve Nash. But Kendrick Perkins defends both Drew and DH very well.

Advantage is still OKC's either way.

Instead of OKC beating LA 4 - 1, I'd give the series 4-2 or 4-3, but OKC still wins.

Durant and Westbrook still runs roughshod over anything that LA has, too - even WITH Nash AND DH.

In fairness to LA, though - given how Mario Chalmers had a good series vs Westbrook, I'd give a healthy Nash a fair chance vs RW. Nash won't defend him well, but could RW defend HIM well? Or cut off the passing lanes vs one of the greatest passers of all time?

Yep. I agree. OKC still wins but in a 4-3 or something type series. Not as easy but still win all the same.

I think you guys are wrong here. OKC's biggest asset last year was speed. I'm too lazy to look up stats, but they were at their best when they averaged their highest number of possessions.

Perkins slows them down. He found the pine a lot last year because they're more effective offensively with Collison and, honestly, they aren't giving up much on D in the West till they play the Lakers. Bynum was still putting up 20 & 10 against Perk, though I do agree no one is going to do a better job on him.

That said, Howard is a way different kind of offensive threat, especially now with Nash at point. Imagine Perk playing 30-34 mins/night trying to guard a DH-Nash pick-and-roll? Imagine Dwight in iso, for that matter, blowing by him off the baseline like Bosh was doing - he abused him.

I've been praying Houston nabs DH. Seeing the Lakers land him is the worst possible scenario I can imagine. I'll continue to pray Houston wins out. But if LA gets him, they're the favorites in my book. I can be convinced OKC wins in a long series, but it's not going to be nearly as easy as last year. (And I think the count was misleading, for the record - LA could've just as easily lead that series 3-1).
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Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #100 on: July 19, 2012, 07:33:11 AM »

Offline celtsfan84

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Out of teams willing to give up all those pieces and still have someone left on their team to get DH to stay! How many teams can give up AV and probably other players and picks and are then left with a player of KI's caliber left (I think they would be getting Bynum)? To get these players you need to give up a lot... Clev. is of the few that can give up good pieces and still have someone (like a DW or KI or Pau and KoMe) to keep Bynum or DH when they are FA.

-Atlanta can give up Horford, Teague, and a pick and still have Josh Smith (Dwight's best friend) and a ton of cap space.
-Memphis can give up Gay, Gasol, and a pick and still have Conley, Randolph, and TA
-The Clippers can give up Blake and still have CP3
-Indiana can give up Hibbert and Granger and still have David West and Paul George
-Golden State can give up Harrison Barnes, Andrew Bogut, and a pick and still have Stephen Curry

Those are just a few.  And once again, it only takes one to make a trade. Dwight isn't getting traded to six different teams.  Should only need one possible package.  Pick your favorite.

There are dozens of possibilities out there.

First, Clev. isn't trying to get DH... why? I guess they don't think Kyrie would be enough to keep him so I'm sure those other teams feel the same about the pieces they'd be left with. They would be getting Bynum, that's only b/c LA wants DH so badly. Now Bynum seems to be easier to convince to stay than DH only because he hasn't come out and said I don't want to be in certain places! Do you see what the Nets offered and were still turned down? This is only speculation on Lakers getting DH through Clev. just as the other reports on them closing in on getting him. It's all in what Orl. wants... you would then have to assume (like we have been) 1) those teams haven't put out feelers to see if what they have is enough 2) that Orl. isn't looking for specific types of players (like a center).

Oh and Indiana seems to like that they don't have one star but a good TEAM. Maybe they don't want to mess that up! You aren't looking at things as a whole but just bits and pieces of a whole.

Wait, also you have to assume those other teams want to give up those pieces! I know DH is great but it doesn't mean every one of those teams want to give up multiple pieces to only get him!

Ooops, forgot to add that ATL cleaned house to get DH as a FA instead of giving up Horford who they want to play PF (natural position)!

No matter how you skirt around it... Shaq is the only one who chose to go there of the 3. I'm not going around in circles with you anymore when my first post was enough to answer your first thought. I never started to argue these other things but I'm bored with no Celts news LOL! Good luck!

I can only imagine how silly you must feel if you take any pride in your opinion.  Your ability to read Dwight's mind was as bad as I had imagined.  After all, this news story that Dwight wants to join the Lakers breaks only mere hours after our conversation.  And part of the reason he wants to join -

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Howard has always been impressed with the Lakers’ winning tradition and intrigued with the off-court opportunities that come with playing in Los Angeles
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I will accept your apology for mocking my opinions in a single TP.

Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #101 on: July 20, 2012, 11:09:53 AM »

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I really, really hope this falls through.

I work with some Lakers fans and they are absolutely unbearable right now. 

Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #102 on: July 20, 2012, 07:35:57 PM »

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I hope it goes through and Howard never plays a full season again because of his back.
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Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #103 on: July 20, 2012, 07:40:10 PM »

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I really, really hope this falls through.

I work with some Lakers fans and they are absolutely unbearable right now

Aren't they ALWAYS unbearable? lol

Re: Lakers will land Dwight soon
« Reply #104 on: July 20, 2012, 08:10:18 PM »

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How great would it be if the Lakers trade for Dwight and give up Bynum and other assests and then Dwight doesn't resign? That would be the end of the Lakers for some time because Kobe and Nash are old and they would have zero young studs to build around. That would be my dream!!