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Re: We need a SG and a ball handler right? Delonte West.
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2012, 02:08:10 AM »

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I honestly don't think Danny has any desire to bring Delonte back.  We could have easily done so last season, but chose not to.

Personally, I like Delonte as a player.  I just don't think Danny, or Doc, really see him as a good fit for the lockeroom.
yeah Doc hinted the last year he was here and into the offseason about certain guys not being good for the lockeroom think he was one of them

That could have been a few guys though.... Wafer, Nate, JO, Ray (lol).

It was mostly BBD, but I suspect Delonte was part of it too just for his "off-the-wall" personality.  Remember, Delonte was the one who slugged/sucker-punched Wafer after a practice early in the year.

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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2012, 02:13:38 AM »

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I honestly don't think Danny has any desire to bring Delonte back.  We could have easily done so last season, but chose not to.

Personally, I like Delonte as a player.  I just don't think Danny, or Doc, really see him as a good fit for the lockeroom.
yeah Doc hinted the last year he was here and into the offseason about certain guys not being good for the lockeroom think he was one of them

That could have been a few guys though.... Wafer, Nate, JO, Ray (lol).

It was mostly BBD, but I suspect Delonte was part of it too just for his "off-the-wall" personality.  Remember, Delonte was the one who slugged/sucker-punched Wafer after a practice early in the year.

I think that ended up being a rumor started by wafers party, but that could also be bs.
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Re: We need a SG and a ball handler right? Delonte West.
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2012, 02:15:39 AM »

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I honestly don't think Danny has any desire to bring Delonte back.  We could have easily done so last season, but chose not to.

Personally, I like Delonte as a player.  I just don't think Danny, or Doc, really see him as a good fit for the lockeroom.
yeah Doc hinted the last year he was here and into the offseason about certain guys not being good for the lockeroom think he was one of them

That could have been a few guys though.... Wafer, Nate, JO, Ray (lol).

It was mostly BBD, but I suspect Delonte was part of it too just for his "off-the-wall" personality.  Remember, Delonte was the one who slugged/sucker-punched Wafer after a practice early in the year.


Idk i never blamed Delonte for this. I figured it was the equivalent of when Tony Allen totally son'ed a mr. o.j. mayo at 60,000 feet lol. Just a tried and tested vet puttin the boy in his place.

I'll gladly take D. West back any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Ya he's had his issues as have many former Celtics but he's always played hard here and his last go round i felt was pretty succesful as well. Plays tough D put his body on the line for the good of the team. Has some old school kick to his game i appreciate and can mix in some nice handles ability to hit the three and some border line crazy outta control dunks for those only into the flash and sportscenter top tens ****.
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Re: We need a SG and a ball handler right? Delonte West.
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2012, 02:18:46 AM »

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I honestly don't think Danny has any desire to bring Delonte back.  We could have easily done so last season, but chose not to.

Personally, I like Delonte as a player.  I just don't think Danny, or Doc, really see him as a good fit for the lockeroom.
yeah Doc hinted the last year he was here and into the offseason about certain guys not being good for the lockeroom think he was one of them

That could have been a few guys though.... Wafer, Nate, JO, Ray (lol).

It was mostly BBD, but I suspect Delonte was part of it too just for his "off-the-wall" personality.  Remember, Delonte was the one who slugged/sucker-punched Wafer after a practice early in the year.


Idk i never blamed Delonte for this. I figured it was the equivalent of when Tony Allen totally son'ed a mr. o.j. mayo at 60,000 feet lol. Just a tried and tested vet puttin the boy in his place.

True, and at the time I was fully in support of Delonte over the matter.

Still, I could easily see how the C's might prefer to just not add a guy like Delonte back into the lockeroom.  He is a combustible personality.

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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2012, 02:20:32 AM »

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Delonte was sleeping in his car and in the locker room this past season.

I'd say he has some issues.

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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2012, 02:34:34 AM »

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I understand the concern and in fact think it wise. But hasn't there always been a parade of legendary Celtics stories shrouded in controversy, debauchery, and very little judgement? Didn't we have a Larry Legend drank chuck barkley under the table one night thread on here like 10 minutes ago?
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2012, 02:35:55 AM »

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He can possibly be had for the minimum, but I'm thinking danny burnt that bridge.
Why would we need a ball handler? Terry is a better ball handler than Dooling was and Ray was not a good ball handler for a 2, so we are already ahead of last season.

What we need is height at SG. We really lack guard height right now. Ray had good SG height. Delonte is small.

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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2012, 02:41:44 AM »

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I understand the concern and in fact think it wise. But hasn't there always been a parade of legendary Celtics stories shrouded in controversy, debauchery, and very little good judgement? Didn't we have a Larry Legend drank chuck barkley under the table one night thread on here like a  10 minutes ago?

There's debauchery and bad judgement, and then there's Delonte. Those aren't the issues surrounding him; he's just more toward the loopy side. He has bad emotional issues. But if he keeps that in check, and pays his legal fees, he'll be fine, y'know?
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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2012, 02:46:32 AM »

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I understand the concern and in fact think it wise. But hasn't there always been a parade of legendary Celtics stories shrouded in controversy, debauchery, and very little good judgement? Didn't we have a Larry Legend drank chuck barkley under the table one night thread on here like a  10 minutes ago?

There's debauchery and bad judgement, and then there's Delonte. Those aren't the issues surrounding him; he's just more toward the loopy side. He has bad emotional issues. But if he keeps that in check, and pays his legal fees, he'll be fine, y'know?






Oh, i was under the impression he was done with his legal stuff. And if he really was sleeping in his car and the locker room then i'd think he'd need to pass some sort of a wellness check first. But court skills wise i love the kid.

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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2012, 02:46:47 AM »

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What we need is height at SG. We really lack guard height right now. Ray had good SG height. Delonte is small.

This is ultimately the biggest reason Delonte probably is not a good idea.

Rondo/Terry/Bradley will be our 3 main players at the guard spots.  Those are 3 short guys for their positions.  It would be nice to have at least one taller guard.  Lee or Pietrus fit the mold perfectly.

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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2012, 03:54:46 AM »

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Too fragile for my taste, spends more time on injured list than on the floor.  Pass on Delonte!

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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2012, 06:50:05 AM »

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Time to just accept Moore as the other guard we have been looking for. There will be no other guy brought in now they have no money.

The thought of Moore in the rotation makes me sick

Re: We need a SG and a ball handler right? Delonte West.
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2012, 06:52:48 AM »

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I would rather have Pietrus plus either 'Quis or Dooling then Delonte.

Pietrus and 'Quis are both better defenders for us then West because they can defend either PG, SG or SF.  

Quis can also play all three of those positions.  In fact last season aside from Rajon Rondo 'Quis was probably the best 'pure PG' on the team - he's a good ball handler, good passer, rarely makes mistakes and does a good job of controlling the tempo.  Doc's used him at all three positions in his time as a Celtic, and while he may not ever dominate the opposing team...he's never a liability either.

In fact in all his time with the Celtics I don't think I've ever seem Marquis give us bad minutes on the floor - he's just very solid.  

Dooling is a similar type of guy too, tho he is a bit more of a liability due to his tendancy to take i'll advised threes at times.  Still he hit some HUGE shots in the playoffs last year and played some intense defense.

Neither of those guys has the mental issues of Delonte, and either two of those would make a solid 'fill in' for what is already a fairly nice roster. Needless to say Pietrus would be the first choice.

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« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2012, 06:55:46 AM »

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Too fragile for my taste, spends more time on injured list than on the floor.  Pass on Delonte!

Agreed.  I don't want Delonte West on this team. >:(
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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2012, 07:15:54 AM »

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I really like Delonte, and have argued in favor of bringing him back in other threads, but I agree that he is a bit redundant with Terry on board. Cs really need more of a backup SG, not a backup combo guard.

Here's one way to take a look at our roster:

Rondo/Terry/Moore
AB/ ? /Christmas?
Pierce/Green/Joseph?
Bass/Sully/JJJ
KG/Wilcox/Melo

The biggest question mark is still at the 2, especially given AB's surgery.

If the Cs can fill that using the vet min (preserving the BAE for later opportunities  -- unless, for some magical reason Lee wants the BAE), that would be ideal. Cs also would want someone who "knows their role" and will be happy to take fewer minutes and disappear on the bench once AB is back, and when and if the youngsters (e.g.: Moore) start to emerge.

I think Quisy could fit this role. Potentially also players like Roger Mason, maybe Josh Childress.
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