A Pu-Pu Platter Trade Idea With Denver

[indeedproceed]

Boston Trades:
JaJuan Johnson
E'Twan Moore
Sean Williams
2013 top 20 protected 1st (with protection decreasing each year)

Denver Trades:
Corey Brewer

Why for Boston: Brewer is a solid defender at the 2 and 3, and really blossomed offensively last season. He's no Ray Allen, but a lot of the stuff he does do (defense, spot shooting, rebounding) are things our other 2's aren't so great at.

Why for Denver: Despite Brewer's improved play last season, he hasn't proved to be more than a 1 hit wonder and got absolutely abused in the playoffs. Plus, between Arron Affallo, Gallinari, Chandler, and newly signed Evan Fournier, they've got enough depth at the 2/3 so that there isn't much good that can come from Brewer being there. They get a project 4 in Johnson, and 1 year deals making up the rest of the salary, as well as a late 1st round pick.

[AB_Celtic]

Boston Trades:
JaJuan Johnson
E'Twan Moore
Sean Williams
2013 top 20 protected 1st (with protection decreasing each year)

Denver Trades:
Corey Brewer

Why for Boston: Brewer is a solid defender at the 2 and 3, and really blossomed offensively last season. He's no Ray Allen, but a lot of the stuff he does do (defense, spot shooting, rebounding) are things our other 2's aren't so great at.

Why for Denver: Despite Brewer's improved play last season, he hasn't proved to be more than a 1 hit wonder and got absolutely abused in the playoffs. Plus, between Arron Affallo, Gallinari, Chandler, and newly signed Evan Fournier, they've got enough depth at the 2/3 so that there isn't much good that can come from Brewer being there. They get a project 4 in Johnson, and 1 year deals making up the rest of the salary, as well as a late 1st round pick.

That would be absolutely wonderful. Still, I think the trade favors us more, and DA would really have to sell your "Why for Denver" ideas.

[StartOrien]

I'm not sure Denver has the roster spots

EDIT: Ya, they don't.

Lawson / Miller
Afflalo / Fournier
Gallo / Chandler / Hamilton / Brewer
Faried / Harrington
McGee / Anderson / Mozgov / Koufos

[celticinorlando]

fine with me...dumping moore and johnson makes me more excited than getting brewer

[indeedproceed]

I'm not sure Denver has the roster spots

EDIT: Ya, they don't.

Lawson / Miller
Afflalo / Fournier
Gallo / Chandler / Hamilton
Faried / Harrington
McGee / Anderson / Mozgov / Koufos

Allegedly they're amnestying Andersen.

[StartOrien]

I'm not sure Denver has the roster spots

EDIT: Ya, they don't.

Lawson / Miller
Afflalo / Fournier
Gallo / Chandler / Hamilton
Faried / Harrington
McGee / Anderson / Mozgov / Koufos

Allegedly they're amnestying Andersen.

I saw that a while back, but haven't seen any recent mentions of it so I'm not sure.

Still, I don't see it. I think the little use they could get out of Brewer would be more valuable to them then rolling the dice on Triple J. There's just no way they could carve out the minutes to see if he'd be worth it.

[indeedproceed]

I'm not sure Denver has the roster spots

EDIT: Ya, they don't.

Lawson / Miller
Afflalo / Fournier
Gallo / Chandler / Hamilton
Faried / Harrington
McGee / Anderson / Mozgov / Koufos

Allegedly they're amnestying Andersen.

I saw that a while back, but haven't seen any recent mentions of it so I'm not sure.

https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/225047181629988864

Still, I don't see it. I think the little use they could get out of Brewer would be more valuable to them then rolling the dice on Triple J. There's just no way they could carve out the minutes to see if he'd be worth it.

32 year old Al Harrington is their backup at the 4. While JJJ is hardly a blue chip prospect, he's gotta be worth a look in that situation.

[StartOrien]

I'm not sure Denver has the roster spots

EDIT: Ya, they don't.

Lawson / Miller
Afflalo / Fournier
Gallo / Chandler / Hamilton
Faried / Harrington
McGee / Anderson / Mozgov / Koufos

Allegedly they're amnestying Andersen.

I saw that a while back, but haven't seen any recent mentions of it so I'm not sure.

https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/225047181629988864

Still, I don't see it. I think the little use they could get out of Brewer would be more valuable to them then rolling the dice on Triple J. There's just no way they could carve out the minutes to see if he'd be worth it.

32 year old Al Harrington is their backup at the 4. While JJJ is hardly a blue chip prospect, he's gotta be worth a look in that situation.

Surprising, even if they've got a lot of centers you'd think they'd want to hold onto the Birdman. Considering other amounts given out, that contracts not too bad.

Harrington's older, but he played pretty well for them last season. I don't see a real problem with him being the backup 4. I understand wanting some insurance, but I'm not sure I'd go for that package. Even though I, personally, like Trips

[indeedproceed]

I'm not sure Denver has the roster spots

EDIT: Ya, they don't.

Lawson / Miller
Afflalo / Fournier
Gallo / Chandler / Hamilton
Faried / Harrington
McGee / Anderson / Mozgov / Koufos

Allegedly they're amnestying Andersen.

I saw that a while back, but haven't seen any recent mentions of it so I'm not sure.

https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/225047181629988864

Still, I don't see it. I think the little use they could get out of Brewer would be more valuable to them then rolling the dice on Triple J. There's just no way they could carve out the minutes to see if he'd be worth it.

32 year old Al Harrington is their backup at the 4. While JJJ is hardly a blue chip prospect, he's gotta be worth a look in that situation.

Surprising, even if they've got a lot of centers you'd think they'd want to hold onto the Birdman. Considering other amounts given out, that contracts not too bad.

Harrington's older, but he played pretty well for them last season. I don't see a real problem with him being the backup 4. I understand wanting some insurance, but I'm not sure I'd go for that package. Even though I, personally, like Trips

I personally dislike him, but mostly you're trading a guy you won't use for a guy you might, and a 1st round pick. They'd waive Williams and Moore of course, with the Celtics likely paying that part of the deal in cash as well.

[slamtheking]

Boston Trades:
JaJuan Johnson
E'Twan Moore
Sean Williams
2013 top 20 protected 1st (with protection decreasing each year)

Denver Trades:
Corey Brewer

Why for Boston: Brewer is a solid defender at the 2 and 3, and really blossomed offensively last season. He's no Ray Allen, but a lot of the stuff he does do (defense, spot shooting, rebounding) are things our other 2's aren't so great at.

Why for Denver: Despite Brewer's improved play last season, he hasn't proved to be more than a 1 hit wonder and got absolutely abused in the playoffs. Plus, between Arron Affallo, Gallinari, Chandler, and newly signed Evan Fournier, they've got enough depth at the 2/3 so that there isn't much good that can come from Brewer being there. They get a project 4 in Johnson, and 1 year deals making up the rest of the salary, as well as a late 1st round pick.

must be me but the "Why for Denver" is exactly the "Why NOT for Boston".

I was a big advocate for Corey Brewer when he was drafted but this kid has grossly underwhelmed me since he entered the league.  C's need a certified scoring guard off the bench besides JET.  Brewer ain't it.  Would rather have Pietrus back than Brewer.

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Just threw essentially the same trade out as an idea to land B Rush via S&T. I'm all for it for any young wing capable of defending and shooting for 20-25 minutes a game to the tune of $2.5-$3.5mil -- brewer, rush, wes johnson (not likely), etc. obviously moore and williams are likely to just be waived. You get JJJ and a pick for a back-up.

[indeedproceed]

Boston Trades:
JaJuan Johnson
E'Twan Moore
Sean Williams
2013 top 20 protected 1st (with protection decreasing each year)

Denver Trades:
Corey Brewer

Why for Boston: Brewer is a solid defender at the 2 and 3, and really blossomed offensively last season. He's no Ray Allen, but a lot of the stuff he does do (defense, spot shooting, rebounding) are things our other 2's aren't so great at.

Why for Denver: Despite Brewer's improved play last season, he hasn't proved to be more than a 1 hit wonder and got absolutely abused in the playoffs. Plus, between Arron Affallo, Gallinari, Chandler, and newly signed Evan Fournier, they've got enough depth at the 2/3 so that there isn't much good that can come from Brewer being there. They get a project 4 in Johnson, and 1 year deals making up the rest of the salary, as well as a late 1st round pick.

must be me but the "Why for Denver" is exactly the "Why NOT for Boston".

I was a big advocate for Corey Brewer when he was drafted but this kid has grossly underwhelmed me since he entered the league.  C's need a certified scoring guard off the bench besides JET.  Brewer ain't it.  Would rather have Pietrus back than Brewer.

I think you kinda missed him last season. He was very capable for Denver. Not much of a 3pt shooter (he had been better, last year was tough), but a very useful all-around player.

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I'm not sure Denver has the roster spots

EDIT: Ya, they don't.

Lawson / Miller
Afflalo / Fournier
Gallo / Chandler / Hamilton
Faried / Harrington
McGee / Anderson / Mozgov / Koufos

Allegedly they're amnestying Andersen.

I saw that a while back, but haven't seen any recent mentions of it so I'm not sure.

https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/225047181629988864

Still, I don't see it. I think the little use they could get out of Brewer would be more valuable to them then rolling the dice on Triple J. There's just no way they could carve out the minutes to see if he'd be worth it.

32 year old Al Harrington is their backup at the 4. While JJJ is hardly a blue chip prospect, he's gotta be worth a look in that situation.

Surprising, even if they've got a lot of centers you'd think they'd want to hold onto the Birdman. Considering other amounts given out, that contracts not too bad.

Harrington's older, but he played pretty well for them last season. I don't see a real problem with him being the backup 4. I understand wanting some insurance, but I'm not sure I'd go for that package. Even though I, personally, like Trips

I personally dislike him, but mostly you're trading a guy you won't use for a guy you might, and a 1st round pick. They'd waive Williams and Moore of course, with the Celtics likely paying that part of the deal in cash as well.

If they "won't" use Brewer (Afflalo and a rookie ahead of him on the depth chart), then I don't see how they "might" use JJJ (with Faried and Harrington ahead of him).  Sure, Fournier could pan out, but I'd say the chances are better of Brewer seeing time than JJJ there.  Denver's 2 PFs are established rotational players.  Fournier is a wild card.

Their interest in the first round pick and levels of protection on it is what I think is the make-break for a deal like this.  For instance, top 20 protected, then lottery protected, then top 10 protected could intrigue Denver as a possibly nice pick 2-3 years from now if not next season.  But that probably makes the trade a no-go for Boston.

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Just threw essentially the same trade out as an idea to land B Rush via S&T. I'm all for it for any young wing capable of defending and shooting for 20-25 minutes a game to the tune of $2.5-$3.5mil -- brewer, rush, wes johnson (not likely), etc. obviously moore and williams are likely to just be waived. You get JJJ and a pick for a back-up.

Second this. A S&T for Rush is better than wasting two 1st round picks on Brewer rental. Ensure investment stays with Celtics more than a year.

[minijericho29]

Boston Trades:
JaJuan Johnson
E'Twan Moore
Sean Williams
2013 top 20 protected 1st (with protection decreasing each year)

Denver Trades:
Corey Brewer

Why for Boston: Brewer is a solid defender at the 2 and 3, and really blossomed offensively last season. He's no Ray Allen, but a lot of the stuff he does do (defense, spot shooting, rebounding) are things our other 2's aren't so great at.

Why for Denver: Despite Brewer's improved play last season, he hasn't proved to be more than a 1 hit wonder and got absolutely abused in the playoffs. Plus, between Arron Affallo, Gallinari, Chandler, and newly signed Evan Fournier, they've got enough depth at the 2/3 so that there isn't much good that can come from Brewer being there. They get a project 4 in Johnson, and 1 year deals making up the rest of the salary, as well as a late 1st round pick.

Denver would NEVER do this.  I appreciate the effort though.  TP.