The NO CALL that still haunts me! Rule Suggestion!

[flyofchange]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmGTDBR2ye4

There are stupid calls and no calls in almost every sport from time to time but in my opinion all sports should be played within a spectrum that makes it "fair" for both teams, players etc

For example: How much grief would the hawkeye system (that they have been using in tennis since 2002-2003) have saved players like John "you can not be serious!" Mcenroe?

We will never know what the outcome of this game would have been if rondo had gotten 2 freethrows but it most certainly would have been different.

As the rules are now officials can only video review ball out of bounds plays and plays that have to do with shot clock shots or shots that either were a 2 or 3 point fg.

My suggestion is:

At any point in a game each team/coach can substitute 1 of thier timeouts for a review of a call/no call.
Each team is awarded 1 review per quarter and can not "save" reviews for the remaining quarters (use all reviews in the 4th)

This would make a gamechaning, or potentially series and god forbid championship changing call or no call disappear and it wouldnt drag out the time on a game due to that the timeouts are substituted by the review.

Something like this would be very good for the nba i think.

[Rondo2287]

Honestly, I get where you are coming from but if we did get that call and managed to win that game we wouldnt have gotten as many calls as we did in games 3-4 at the garden.  I don't think the series would have ended any differently

[flyofchange]

Honestly, I get where you are coming from but if we did get that call and managed to win that game we wouldnt have gotten as many calls as we did in games 3-4 at the garden.  I don't think the series would have ended any differently

Maybe not. I was just suggesting that rule would be good in general. The "what goes around comes around" point of view on foul calls doesnt work for me.

[bdm860]

This would make a gamechaning, or potentially series and god forbid championship changing call or no call disappear and it wouldnt drag out the time on a game due to that the timeouts are substituted by the review.

Ever notice how long a simple review takes? Like something the tv crew had queued up immediately and we all saw in like first 3 seconds after play stopped?  No way would that speed up the game. It would still take about as long or even longer than a timeout.

Also you wouldn't really be taking a timeout away from the team (except you wouldn't be able to advance tbe ball or sub), because the players would still huddle up right next to the sideline.

But regardless of the above, i think it's a good idea.   A couple of other ideas I like as well too, like adding a fourth ref and having a ref at each baseline and on each side of the court. Or a fourth ref that just sits in front of a monitor for replay purposes.

[flyofchange]

This would make a gamechaning, or potentially series and god forbid championship changing call or no call disappear and it wouldnt drag out the time on a game due to that the timeouts are substituted by the review.

Ever notice how long a simple review takes? Like something the tv crew had queued up immediately and we all saw in like first 3 seconds after play stopped?  No way would that speed up the game. It would still take about as long or even longer than a timeout.

Also you wouldn't really be taking a timeout away from the team (except you wouldn't be able to advance tbe ball or sub), because the players would still huddle up right next to the sideline.

But regardless of the above, i think it's a good idea.   A couple of other ideas I like as well too, like adding a fourth ref and having a ref at each baseline and on each side of the court. Or a fourth ref that just sits in front of a monitor for replay purposes.

Yeah i get what your saying. A 4th ref at a monitor should speed up a review though you would think. I dont get why they take so long time sometimes.

[BballTim]

  I don't really like instant replay at all. It kills the flow of the game, I'm not convinced that they get the plays right in any case, and the implementation is fairly arbitrary.

[GDAbraham]

I think the replays are good as they are and they do come in handy from time to time. I don't think they kill the flow as they stand. I think the ticky tack technicals and phantom-hero calls kill the flow more than anything.

I'm more in favor of refs being fined a set amount for huge blown calls when they should be/are looking right at said play. For "respect of the game" just as owners, coaches and players must adhere to. It's simple job incentive. Give a modest reward to a ref for calling something like this when the other ref misses it. In big games/playoff games.

Something so blatant shouldn't be allowed to pass as is and then release a meager "my bad" statement. "The other team probably should've gained the critical advantage or win, but whatevers. And here are your champions....yes. They earned it. They sure did."

It goes for every team. Even if the team still loses. There's no reason to not have more definitive outcomes overall. It would make the winners and champions feel more legitimate.

[bfrombleacher]

Fire all the refs and get better refs!

[fairweatherfan]

You can't review a play that didn't result in a dead ball.

Think about it this way - say we're down 1 to the Heat in Game 7 with 30 seconds left, their ball.  Wade shoots a 3 and misses long with 8 seconds left.  Rebound goes long and KG bats it to Rondo at halfcourt, who's got an open lane to the rim for the win, but then WHISTLE!!  Spoelstra is using his "review" because he's falsely claiming Wade got hit on the elbow.  The review fails but now we have to inbound and score in the halfcourt to win the series.

You can't have opposing coaches stopping play when the other team has the ball, because of situations like that.  And if you have to wait it creates a huge mess of how to "fix" the events that happened after the no-call.  So in Game 2, Rondo gets hit on the head and the Heat get the ball, come down and get an And-1.  Let's say we "review" after that play, and the refs see Rondo was fouled.  What happens to that And-1 play?  It's just wiped off the books and the clock resets?  This just seems like it would cause more problems than it solves.

[flyofchange]

You can't review a play that didn't result in a dead ball.

Think about it this way - say we're down 1 to the Heat in Game 7 with 30 seconds left, their ball.  Wade shoots a 3 and misses long with 8 seconds left.  Rebound goes long and KG bats it to Rondo at halfcourt, who's got an open lane to the rim for the win, but then WHISTLE!!  Spoelstra is using his "review" because he's falsely claiming Wade got hit on the elbow.  The review fails but now we have to inbound and score in the halfcourt to win the series.

You can't have opposing coaches stopping play when the other team has the ball, because of situations like that.  And if you have to wait it creates a huge mess of how to "fix" the events that happened after the no-call.  So in Game 2, Rondo gets hit on the head and the Heat get the ball, come down and get an And-1.  Let's say we "review" after that play, and the refs see Rondo was fouled.  What happens to that And-1 play?  It's just wiped off the books and the clock resets?  This just seems like it would cause more problems than it solves.

Thats an interesting point but you already have situations like that, for example when foul occurs when a shot is going up and they give the foul instead of the basket.

With the rule suggested in the rondo/miami situation you would keep the and-1 but give 2 freethrows and boston ball cause its boston ball after miami scores.

There are + and - in most rules and i dont think the suggested rule is perfect but something needs to be done in my opinion casue we cant have refs deciding games like they do sometimes.

There are absolutely nothing that refs cant do basically. Whatever they do stern backs them up.

There needs to be better rules and maybe consequenses for refs that makes these kind of calls.

[ACF]

Great idea. Let's hope Adam Silver is listening to the voice of us, the fans, when he takes over from Herr Stern.

[Celtics4ever]

The league has their agenda.   Stars will always get calls and no calls.  Joey Crawford and the gang were the sixth men for the HEAT.  It's a tainted title in my mind won by refs!

[CantBeRight]

If this was called we would of won the game and essentially beaten the cHeat 4-3, going to the Finals and might've gotten another banner. Ya never know...