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Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2012, 10:01:39 AM »

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How 'bout the fact that Orlando is looking to rebuild, but apparently wants no part of Brooks as a young, cheap scoring guard?  Doesn't that tell us SOMETHING about how Brooks' career is playing out so far?

Well that comes down to who do you trust more. Orlando's gm or DA.

Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2012, 10:05:14 AM »

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I would do it. The C's already have the Bobcat's second round pick which I am sure will be very close to a first round pick. Why not take a flier on a guy who showed a lot of promise in his first year? I think Marshon and Rondo would be pretty exciting to watch on the fast break.

Why not take a flier on whomever Danny decides to draft next year instead?

Because I think Marshon Brooks can help us this year and can also grow into a potential future all star. We know that the Celtics are contenders are right now. What we don't know is if they will be contenders next year. The Celtics need all of the help they can get this upcoming season. Marshon Brooks would certainly be a pretty sweet addition.

What's he shown to make you think he's a potential All Star?

I'd consider using the Charlotte 2nd rounder, but not a first.  I mean, we're all pretty stoked about our most recent 1st rounder, Sully.  We'll probably be drafting next year at around the same spot, high-teens/low-20s.  Would you rather have the chance for next year's Sully, or Brooks?  There's no shortage of guys in the NBA who can score 13 points on 12 shots.  

Any rookie who averages almost 13 points per game has potential to be an all star. I am pretty sure Joe Johnson averaged less than 10 points a game for his first three seasons. Marshon also had just about the same FG% as Joe Johnson had during his first three seasons. I don't think it's fair to discredit Marshon so quickly. Have you actually seen him play before? I always come away super impressed after watching him play.

Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2012, 10:05:21 AM »

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How 'bout the fact that Orlando is looking to rebuild, but apparently wants no part of Brooks as a young, cheap scoring guard?  Doesn't that tell us SOMETHING about how Brooks' career is playing out so far?

Well that comes down to who do you trust more. Orlando's gm or DA.

Well, Danny already told us his opinion; he drafted JuJuan.  And in his first season, Brooks pretty much lived up to his billing; he cam score a little, but inefficiently.  I don't see how he's done anything to change people's opinions, including DA's.

Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2012, 10:07:56 AM »

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How 'bout the fact that Orlando is looking to rebuild, but apparently wants no part of Brooks as a young, cheap scoring guard?  Doesn't that tell us SOMETHING about how Brooks' career is playing out so far?

Well that comes down to who do you trust more. Orlando's gm or DA.

Well, Danny already told us his opinion; he drafted JuJuan.  And in his first season, Brooks pretty much lived up to his billing; he cam score a little, but inefficiently.  I don't see how he's done anything to change people's opinions, including DA's.

Well that could of been more of a need pick than talent. Look, I'm not saying we need to get him, I'm just saying that I think he could play better than people think if he's around our core and coaching staff instead of the Nets.

Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2012, 10:08:07 AM »

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I would do it. The C's already have the Bobcat's second round pick which I am sure will be very close to a first round pick. Why not take a flier on a guy who showed a lot of promise in his first year? I think Marshon and Rondo would be pretty exciting to watch on the fast break.

Why not take a flier on whomever Danny decides to draft next year instead?

Because I think Marshon Brooks can help us this year and can also grow into a potential future all star. We know that the Celtics are contenders are right now. What we don't know is if they will be contenders next year. The Celtics need all of the help they can get this upcoming season. Marshon Brooks would certainly be a pretty sweet addition.

What's he shown to make you think he's a potential All Star?

I'd consider using the Charlotte 2nd rounder, but not a first.  I mean, we're all pretty stoked about our most recent 1st rounder, Sully.  We'll probably be drafting next year at around the same spot, high-teens/low-20s.  Would you rather have the chance for next year's Sully, or Brooks?  There's no shortage of guys in the NBA who can score 13 points on 12 shots.  

Any rookie who averages almost 13 points per game has potential to be an all star. I am pretty sure Joe Johnson averaged less than 10 points a game for his first three seasons. Marshon also had just about the same FG% as Joe Johnson had during his first three seasons. I don't think it's fair to discredit Marshon so quickly. Have you actually seen him play before? I always come away super impressed after watching him play.
Joe Johnson has/had much better physical gifts than Brooks, additionally he was much younger when he came into the league.

When Joe Johnson was 23 he was having his breakout season for the Suns with Steve Nash, Brooks was 23 last year.

You're right that his low FG% shouldn't cause us to write him off, but I don't see a future all-star.

Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2012, 10:24:07 AM »

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I'd strongly consider it for two reasons.

1) Brooks is likely better than someone we'd draft in the late teens, early 20s this coming draft. 

2) Brooks solves all of our depth issues this year at the 2/3 spots. 

I know some people are saying they'd prefer Pietrus, Lee, or someone else.  However, at the end of the day, it's quite possible none of those guys are coming here given salary constraints. 

If Brooks can be had cheaply, we might as well go for it. 

Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2012, 10:28:57 AM »

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Neither would I want Brooks for a #1, nor would I want to help out Brooklyn--nor would I want to help out Dwight Howard.

Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2012, 10:30:29 AM »

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Marshon Brooks had a very good rookie season and likely earned himself a lucrative NBA career based on that.  Good for him, but I just don't think he's a good fit for this Celtics team.  I don't like his tendency to shoot first, second, and third.  I think he has a Jamal Crawford type career ahead of him.  Don't get me wrong.  Crawford's a very successful NBA player, but he's another guy who I don't think fits the Celtics ball movement offense very well.  
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Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2012, 10:36:44 AM »

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I would do it. The C's already have the Bobcat's second round pick which I am sure will be very close to a first round pick. Why not take a flier on a guy who showed a lot of promise in his first year? I think Marshon and Rondo would be pretty exciting to watch on the fast break.

Why not take a flier on whomever Danny decides to draft next year instead?

Because I think Marshon Brooks can help us this year and can also grow into a potential future all star. We know that the Celtics are contenders are right now. What we don't know is if they will be contenders next year. The Celtics need all of the help they can get this upcoming season. Marshon Brooks would certainly be a pretty sweet addition.

What's he shown to make you think he's a potential All Star?

I'd consider using the Charlotte 2nd rounder, but not a first.  I mean, we're all pretty stoked about our most recent 1st rounder, Sully.  We'll probably be drafting next year at around the same spot, high-teens/low-20s.  Would you rather have the chance for next year's Sully, or Brooks?  There's no shortage of guys in the NBA who can score 13 points on 12 shots.  

Any rookie who averages almost 13 points per game has potential to be an all star. I am pretty sure Joe Johnson averaged less than 10 points a game for his first three seasons. Marshon also had just about the same FG% as Joe Johnson had during his first three seasons. I don't think it's fair to discredit Marshon so quickly. Have you actually seen him play before? I always come away super impressed after watching him play.

Keith Van Horn averaged 20 per game as a rookie.  And made 0 All-Star games.  Joe Smith and Kerry Kittles also averaged more than 13.  And made 0 All-Star games.  Marc Jackson averaged 13 in his rookie year.  The awful center, not the point guard. Drew Gooden too.  Charlie Villaneuva averaged 13.  0 All-Star games.  Adam Morrison averaged 12 per game as a rookie.  Out of the league within a few years. Al Thronton averaged 13 per game.  0 All-Star games.

I think Charlie Villaneuva, Adam Morrison, and Al Thornton are his closest comparisons.

He may prove better than those guys.  But scoring 13 per game on a miserable team in an inefficient way isn't the sign of a future All-Star.  As others have said, Danny rejected him at the draft.  What has really changed?  His potential is the same.

Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2012, 10:37:31 AM »

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we've got an undersized chucker at the 2 for the next 3 years -- jason terry -- and a great one at that. keep the pick or trade it for someone who can rebound the ball.

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Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2012, 10:43:44 AM »

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Only if Houston is interested in him in a S&T for Lee.  Since Houston is stockpiling for a run at Dwight Howard, this kind of negates the whole objective.

I think a draft pick is overall more valuable to DA for what he is trying to do this off season.  In the end, we can still likely just sign Pietrus or CJ Miles and be no worse off.

Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2012, 11:01:01 AM »

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JJJ and Charlotte's 2nd round pick would be fair.

I'd still do one of our late 1st for him as well

But I think Orlando could look at JJJ as a rebuilding piece next to Lopez, and the 2nd could be used on a European project, since more teams are going that route with the 2nd round



Knock Marshon all you want. I was excited that we drafted him, and bummed that we traded him that quick, knowing the possibility of the whole at SG with Ray's contract ending

Rondo is twice the better passer than DWill and would find Brooks open looks in rhythm. Add KG,Pierce, and Green as primary options on offense and Brooks could excel. 
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Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2012, 12:19:48 PM »

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JJJ and Charlotte's 2nd round pick would be fair.


I don't get why people want to dump Johnson without even really seeing him play first, particularly after seeing how much Avery Bradley improved from year 1 to 2.  AB had a tough start to his career with his injuries, and JJJ had to deal with no offseason and no real training camp.  Now, I don't expect JJJ to make the kind of leap that AB did in his sophomore campaign, but wouldn't you at least like to see what he's got - let's see if Danny was right in his initial assessment - before giving the kid away?

Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2012, 12:24:02 PM »

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No. He is 0/6 so far in his first summer league game, so clearly the guy will not pan out.
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Re: Would you want MarShon Brooks for a #1?
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2012, 01:06:34 PM »

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hmmm so Brooks ended up going 0-10 in todays summer league game......