Should we start Jeff Green at SF?

[LarBrd33]

In the latter stages of the regular season, Avery Bradley played at a higher level than Jeff Green ever has.

Oh come on.  Do you really believe that?  How do you figure?  

You don't have to make it about overrating Bradley though. I believe Who's point was just that Bradley has played at a high enough level that it's worth seeing if he can maintain or improve on his #s. We know what we're getting in Jeff Green. And what does Jeff Green do better than the league average SF? Not enough to earn a starting job.

19.5 PTS 7.7 REB 2.1 AST 2.1 TO 1.6 STL 53.0 TS% 1.16 PPS 3.5 FTA Jeff Green (09-10)
19.7 PTS 7.1 REB 2.1 AST 2.0 TO 1.0 STL 53.8 TS% 1.22 PPS 4.8 FTA Jeff Green (10-11)
20.3 PTS 7.2 REB 3.5 AST 2.4 TO 1.5 STL 54.1 TS% 1.22 PPS 4.7 FTA Average NBA SF (11-12)

*Minutes Adjusted

That's how I figure. But maybe I'm missing something.

Interesting.  Can I see the source on that "average SF" part? 

[ederson]

We know what we're getting in Jeff Green. And what does Jeff Green do better than the league average SF? Not enough to earn a starting job.

I agree but with one small objection... We don`t realy know what we get in JG. We know what the before-the-heart-problem JG could bring.

[LarBrd33]

We know what we're getting in Jeff Green. And what does Jeff Green do better than the league average SF? Not enough to earn a starting job.

I agree but with one small objection... We don`t realy know what we get in JG. We know what the before-the-heart-problem JG could bring.

FYI That was Walker Wiggle's quote not mine.  Not that I care. 

But to your point... I don't have any reason to believe Jeff Green will be less of a player post-heart-problem.  It's not like it's a structural problem.  Walker Wiggle brings up some intriguing statistical information about "average Small forwards" in comparison to Jeff Green.  I still think Jeff could flourish in Boston playing his natural position with a point guard like Rondo.  And although I keep sharing his stats, I base this more on just what I've seen of him playing in OKC.  I always thought he was incredibly quick, incredibly athletic and a pretty solid shooter and rebounder.  I'm legitimately excited to see what he'll do in Boston with a full training camp.  I'm pumped for this season.

[chambers]

I agree I'd love to start Pierce at the 2 guard and give Jeff a go at SF- I had no idea he was that effective at the 3 when Durant was out.
Someone put this fact sheet on Ainge's desk pronto.

[bfrombleacher]

Who did JG play against in his starting SF tenure?

[Lechoke Lames]

In the latter stages of the regular season, Avery Bradley played at a higher level than Jeff Green ever has.

Any specific game you would recommend to re-watch (where AB excelled)?

[fitzhickey]

paul pierce at this point in his career cannot play the 2. he does not have quickness or lateral quickness to defend the 2's out there.

Can Green guard big SGs?

Maybe Paul George

[BudweiserCeltic]

In the latter stages of the regular season, Avery Bradley played at a higher level than Jeff Green ever has.

Any specific game you would recommend to re-watch (where AB excelled)?

Vs. Atlanta, NJ, and Orlando seem like 3 good games to watch.

[jyyzzoel]

if anyone thinks jeff green is not going to play the majority of his minutes at small forward, that person is crazy.

[2short]

I had put up this idea quite awhile ago.  Not sure if how it would be with current team BUT if you start Jeff Green at sf you can bring PP off the bench.  In no way is Green better than Pierce but this might make the team better.  When PP comes in you can also give rondo a rest as paul can handle the ball (if needed).  Of course I was thinking of this idea last season when ray was here we though JO could play and kg was a pf.

rondo, bradley/terry depending on health, green, kg and insert center ? or bass starts kg is center ?

to me once bradley can go he should be the starting sg, the defense those 2 guys can play (along with kg) can keep us in every game
If KG is playing center (maybe less minutes a game?) than the starting lineup can really run.  Now the subs, pp jason terry steimsma (?) come in.  rondo, kg and bass or green take a break.  There is very little let down, sure the defense would falter a bit with kg and rondo out at same time but the offense is quite good and paul is no slouch at defense.
end of game lineup i'd have kg at center, pf green, sf pierce, sg bradley and rondo pg

i think we need a physical sg for defense off the bench, bring back pietrus

[Lechoke Lames]

In the latter stages of the regular season, Avery Bradley played at a higher level than Jeff Green ever has.

Any specific game you would recommend to re-watch (where AB excelled)?

Vs. Atlanta, NJ, and Orlando seem like 3 good games to watch.

Thanks! I will check them out.

[Who]

In the latter stages of the regular season, Avery Bradley played at a higher level than Jeff Green ever has.

Oh come on.  Do you really believe that?  How do you figure? 

Yes

• Bradley = elite defense + highly efficient complementary offense (12-14ppg on 60+ TS%) + weak rebounding. (above average starter level contributions)
  
• Jeff Green as a PF = good offense (16-17ppg on mediocre scoring efficiency) + a large liability on defense + a large liability on the boards. Net negative overall as a starting PF due to his inadequate work as a defender/rebounder.
• Jeff Green as a SF = solid offense (13-14ppg on mediocre TS%) and an average defender/rebounder. Solid contributor (below average but solid starter level performer).

Avery Bradley's contributions were at a higher level than what Jeff Green has produced.

[Who]

I think the Avery love on this forum is getting slightly out of hand.  You guys might be right and he might end up a star, but you're reading way too much into a month of play.  Yes, he played solid defense against other undersized guards.  Yes, he had a shooting streak.  He finished the month averaging 15 points 1.2 steals and ridiculous shooting percentages. He limited an injured Dwayne Wade in two games.  Great.  He impressed me too... but I haven't seen nearly enough from him to be sold.  I think he has a bright future as a defensive role player off the bench (smaller Tony Allen)... maybe more.  But we're talking less than 20 games here. 

I am not completely sold on him either. Similar questions.

That said, given the talent and impact Bradley has shown so far, that starting position is his to lose (and rightly so). Bradley took that starting position last year and he made it his. He earned that starting nod (last season and heading into next season).

I repeat, he earned it. Bradley isn't being handed anything. He took that starting spot and he made it his.

If Bradley struggles next year, I'd reconsider his starting place in the team but not before then.

[Who]

if this was a Washington Wizards forum, you guys would be telling me how Kevin Seraphin is a future superstar due to the fact he spent March averaging 16 points, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks in 33 minutes while shooting 53%... and I'd be saying, "Yo, fellow Wizard fans... let's not get carried away here.  I'm excited about Seraphin too, but I haven't seen enough to be sold... I've been burned in the past by crazy streaks from the likes of Andray Blatche"...  You tell me... should I be sold on Kevin Seraphin too?  At least he's the proper size for his position.

Kevin Seraphin performed at a level comparable to a so-so backup center. He was a well below average defender + weak rebounder + a very limited offensive player who completed his garbage man duties effectively. In all, Seraphin showed himself to be a very limited performer in his time with extra minutes. It doesn't look like he has a future as a starter but he can be a backup center / fourth big in the rotation.

It was simple stat-padding while playing big minutes on a short-handed p----poor Washington team that was one of the weakest squads in the league.

In contrast to Bradley, who was a starter on a Boston Celtics team that was one of the best teams in the league over the final period of the regular season. His contributions played a part (as the fourth best player and at an above average starter level) in helping Boston's late season surge and showed himself to be a player who helps his teams win games.

[CFAN38]

When every one is healthy and figuring the Cs add another wing (Lee or Pietrus), retain Stiemsma and/or bring in a vet (camby,wilcox) this is minutes i expect when healthy.

PG Rondo  33min, Terry 15min
SG Avery  25min, Terry 13min, wing 10min
SF Pierce 29min, Green 15min, wing 4min
PF Bass   30min, Green 15min, sully 3min
C  KG     29min, Steim 15min, sully 4min

With this depth I expect PP and KG to take whole games off over the coarse of the season in an effort to keep them healthy for a playoff run.

Either way its nice that the Cs have some young depth this year. Looking at this roster its nice to see so many players under 27 for the first time in a while.