Should we start Jeff Green at SF?

[lightspeed5]

paul pierce at this point in his career cannot play the 2. he does not have quickness or lateral quickness to defend the 2's out there.

[Who]

I think Pierce at SG and Green at SF to start the season makes sense, at least until Avery is back.

I would rather keep Green in his bench role to let him get comfortable in it. Rather than chopping and changing his responsibilities within the team.

I'd like to bring in a defensive SG to round out the bench and  start while Bradley is out. While starting, let him play 16-20mpg. Similar to how Chicago used Keith Bogans two years ago and Denver used Dahntay Jones before that. That part-time starter gig.

[Celtics18]

I think Pierce at SG and Green at SF to start the season makes sense, at least until Avery is back.

I would rather keep Green in his bench role to let him get comfortable in it. Rather than chopping and changing his responsibilities within the team.

I'd like to bring in a defensive SG to round out the bench and  start while Bradley is out. While starting, let him play 16-20mpg. Similar to how Chicago used Keith Bogans two years ago and Denver used Dahntay Jones before that. That part-time starter gig.

Is there recent news that Avery is having set backs?  Last I heard he was on schedule to be healthy by training camp.

[SHAQATTACK]

I'm hoping Sully is starting in front of BASS next season and is playing some of Bass's minutes toward end of this season.  

No Doc won't start him thee, he will sub for PP ...alot .   PP is too old and slow to play shooting guard much. he gets his pocket picked when he handles the ball mor than a couple dribbles..  PP needs to stay at the 3 .

[Who]

paul pierce at this point in his career cannot play the 2. he does not have quickness or lateral quickness to defend the 2's out there.

I think Pierce can defend the vast majority of two guards out there.

I'd expect him to struggle with the quicker more explosive variety but they (usually smaller guards) can't defend Pierce either on the other end ... and I trust Pierce to punish them more than they can punish him (Pierce has a lot of protection defensively with KG + Boston's team defense).

So I think that is a net gain for us and I'd expect most coaches to see it the same way and avoid that matchup for that very reason. Keep more size out there to defend Pierce which Pierce can defend better.

And if they switch that smaller wing onto Green, Jeff is a good enough post player to punish that player too.

[Fafnir]

I think Pierce at SG and Green at SF to start the season makes sense, at least until Avery is back.

I would rather keep Green in his bench role to let him get comfortable in it. Rather than chopping and changing his responsibilities within the team.

I'd like to bring in a defensive SG to round out the bench and  start while Bradley is out. While starting, let him play 16-20mpg. Similar to how Chicago used Keith Bogans two years ago and Denver used Dahntay Jones before that. That part-time starter gig.

Is there recent news that Avery is having set backs?  Last I heard he was on schedule to be healthy by training camp.

Yes two different reports saying that due to his second surgery they are pessimistic about him having miss games.

[CelticSince83]

Making a list of ways to keep Pierce healthy and ready for the postseason. 

Top of the list= have him chase around shooting guards for the entire regular season.  Great idea.

[ScottHow]

There is no way I'm putting Pierce at sg. I just don't believe he has the speed and quickness to play that position anymore. Imagine a younger sg flying up the court while an old Pierce struggles to keep up. Not something I want to see.

[Prof. Clutch]

I think Pierce at SG and Green at SF to start the season makes sense, at least until Avery is back.

I would rather keep Green in his bench role to let him get comfortable in it. Rather than chopping and changing his responsibilities within the team.

I'd like to bring in a defensive SG to round out the bench and  start while Bradley is out. While starting, let him play 16-20mpg. Similar to how Chicago used Keith Bogans two years ago and Denver used Dahntay Jones before that. That part-time starter gig.

I feel you and in general I'd like Avery to start and Green settle into a nice role coming off the bench.  I'm just worried about who are starting SG will be to start the season if Bradley is indeed set to miss the beginning of the season.  I know Danny still has some moves left to make but currently if my choice is between:

SG Terry
SF Pierce

and

SG Pierce
SF Green

I think I'd feel more confident with the latter.

[lightspeed5]

paul pierce at this point in his career cannot play the 2. he does not have quickness or lateral quickness to defend the 2's out there.

I think Pierce can defend the vast majority of two guards out there.

I'd expect him to struggle with the quicker more explosive variety but they (usually smaller guards) can't defend Pierce either on the other end ... and I trust Pierce to punish them more than they can punish him (Pierce has a lot of protection defensively with KG + Boston's team defense).

So I think that is a net gain for us and I'd expect most coaches to see it the same way and avoid that matchup for that very reason. Keep more size out there to defend Pierce which Pierce can defend better.

And if they switch that smaller wing onto Green, Jeff is a good enough post player to punish that player too.

pierce can defend 2's? HAHAHAHAHA

[lightspeed5]

There is no way I'm putting Pierce at sg. I just don't believe he has the speed and quickness to play that position anymore. Imagine a younger sg flying up the court while an old Pierce struggles to keep up. Not something I want to see.

austin rivers would destroy pierce on an ISO

[Eris]

paul pierce at this point in his career cannot play the 2. he does not have quickness or lateral quickness to defend the 2's out there.

Can Green guard big SGs?

[lightspeed5]

paul pierce at this point in his career cannot play the 2. he does not have quickness or lateral quickness to defend the 2's out there.

Can Green guard big SGs?

we're not starting green at sg or sf.

[LarBrd33]

In the latter stages of the regular season, Avery Bradley played at a higher level than Jeff Green ever has.

Oh come on.  Do you really believe that?  How do you figure? 

I think the Avery love on this forum is getting slightly out of hand.  You guys might be right and he might end up a star, but you're reading way too much into a month of play.  Yes, he played solid defense against other undersized guards.  Yes, he had a shooting streak.  He finished the month averaging 15 points 1.2 steals and ridiculous shooting percentages. He limited an injured Dwayne Wade in two games.  Great.  He impressed me too... but I haven't seen nearly enough from him to be sold.  I think he has a bright future as a defensive role player off the bench (smaller Tony Allen)... maybe more.  But we're talking less than 20 games here. 

I'm not sure if Bradley is supremely overrated on this forum... or if I'm just crazy for not getting overly excited about a month of solid basketball.  I hope he ends up being great, but I've seen similar streaks from lesser players (many who played for Boston).  Right now, Jeff Green seems like a far better bet than Bradley.  Maybe that's just me.

Edit:  Checked Jeff's 2009-10 stats and there's a two month stretch from Jan to the end of Feb where Jeff averaged roughly 17 points, 5 rebounds, 2 steals with splits of 47%/43%/77% ...

Go back a year prior (2008-09)
November: 18 points, 7 rebounds, 1 assists 49%/33%/71%
December:  17 points, 7 rebounds, 1 steal 43%/47%/83%
January (12 games): 21 points, 10 rebounds, 1.2 steals 46%/40%/79%

I mean technically you can make the case that Avery's month of March was better than anything Jeff Green has "ever" done, but are you doing it with a straight face?  Legitimate question.  Not trying to be snarky.  I feel like I somehow missed the boat on Bradley, because the final month of the seasons is notorious for fluke stats... and this being a lockout shortened no-practice season added to it.  I desperately want to believe.  Unfortunately I've seen these kind of streaks out of Delonte, Tony Allen and Gerald Green so I hesitate. 

I said it before... if this was a Washington Wizards forum, you guys would be telling me how Kevin Seraphin is a future superstar due to the fact he spent March averaging 16 points, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks in 33 minutes while shooting 53%... and I'd be saying, "Yo, fellow Wizard fans... let's not get carried away here.  I'm excited about Seraphin too, but I haven't seen enough to be sold... I've been burned in the past by crazy streaks from the likes of Andray Blatche"...  You tell me... should I be sold on Kevin Seraphin too?  At least he's the proper size for his position.

[The Walker Wiggle]

In the latter stages of the regular season, Avery Bradley played at a higher level than Jeff Green ever has.

Oh come on.  Do you really believe that?  How do you figure?  

You don't have to make it about overrating Bradley though. I believe Who's point was just that Bradley has played at a high enough level that it's worth seeing if he can maintain or improve on his #s. We know what we're getting in Jeff Green. And what does Jeff Green do better than the league average SF? Not enough to earn a starting job.

19.5 PTS 7.7 REB 2.1 AST 2.1 TO 1.6 STL 53.0 TS% 1.16 PPS 3.5 FTA Jeff Green (09-10)
19.7 PTS 7.1 REB 2.1 AST 2.0 TO 1.0 STL 53.8 TS% 1.22 PPS 4.8 FTA Jeff Green (10-11)
20.3 PTS 7.2 REB 3.5 AST 2.4 TO 1.5 STL 54.1 TS% 1.22 PPS 4.7 FTA Average NBA SF (11-12)

*Minutes Adjusted

That's how I figure. But maybe I'm missing something.