Jeff Green agrees to deal (4 years, $36 million)

[Roy H.]

Well, it's better than $40 million.  I'd prefer it if the last year was non-guaranteed, but what can you do?

[Boris Badenov]

Green has never graded out as anything other than a borderline NBA starter. His numbers have been inflated by the fact that he played a lot of minutes per game.

I know that PER is not everyone's favorite stat, but it is OK. It grades the top SFs in the league last year as James, Durant, Anthony, Pierce, Granger, Iggy and Batum in that order. Perfectly sensible.

Green's career PER would have put him at 32nd last year. Here are the 5 guys right above and below him:

27   Kyle Korver
28   Alonzo Gee
29   Terrence Williams
30   Michael Beasley
31   Tayshaun Prince
32   C.J. Miles
33   Linas Kleiza
34   Reggie Williams
35   Grant Hill
36   Donte Greene

Everything about him screams "mediocre." I have no idea why he is getting paid star money.

[celticinorlando]

Is what it is...looks like rondo, ab, green, sully are the future

[Brendan]

Here's what I have - first section is people on the roster, some are not guaranteed. Second section are FA signings announced so far. Next section is draft picks. Last section are cap holds I know of. I didn't add the cap holds for Dooling, Daniels, Pietrus, etc.

Player	Salary (millions)	Salary Source
Pierce	$16.8	Hoopshype
Rondo	$11.0	Hoopshype
AB	$1.6	Hoopshype
JJJ	$1.1	Hoopshype
Moore	$0.8	Hoopshype
Williams	$0.9	Hoopshype
Roster	$32.2
Garnett	$11.3	News
Green	$9.0	News
Bass	$7.0	News
Terry	$5.2	News
FA Signings	$32.6
Sullinger	$1.1	Rookie scale
Melo	$1.0	Rookie scale
Joseph	$0.5	Guess based on Moore's deal
Draft Picks	$2.6
Steisma	$1.0	Hoopshype
Kristic	$8.3	150% of last salary
Cap Holds	$9.3
Total	$76.7

For the multiyear deals I just took a straight average of the announced $ and years, the actual numbers will probably be different.

[ShermansShoes]

I'll take the signing, not sure there is really anyone else to give the money to.  My question is, does he start?  Assuming Pietrus re-ups, you would have Terry, Bass, and Pietrus comming off the bench.  That's some nice scoring and some average D.   Mix in some Melo and Sullinger (holding my breath) that's 10 deep.  Maybe Sean Williams,  Krstic?  12 deep.  Dooling, Moore and JJJ holding down the end of the bench.  I'll argue that the Green signing makes us a very versatile team.  

[bbd24]

Same money he got on a 1 yr voided deal. Big whoop, 4yrs & 36. Ainge is constructing a very nice bench. If Ainge hits on 1 of his 3 draft picks, this Celtic team is [dang] scary. Pietrus & probably Wilcox up next. Maybe even Krstic.

Rondo/Terry
Bradley/Pietrus
Pierce/Green/Joseph
Bass/Sullinger/Johnson
KG/Krstic/Wilcox/Melo

1 spot left open, maybe for Moore or Dooling. Or a trade Ainge has in the works.

[JSD]

Here's what I have - first section is people on the roster, some are not guaranteed. Second section are FA signings announced so far. Next section is draft picks. Last section are cap holds I know of. I didn't add the cap holds for Dooling, Daniels, Pietrus, etc.

Player	Salary (millions)	Salary Source
Pierce	$16.8	Hoopshype
Rondo	$11.0	Hoopshype
AB	$1.6	Hoopshype
JJJ	$1.1	Hoopshype
Moore	$0.8	Hoopshype
Williams	$0.9	Hoopshype
Roster	$32.2
Garnett	$11.3	News
Green	$9.0	News
Bass	$7.0	News
Terry	$5.2	News
FA Signings	$32.6
Sullinger	$1.1	Rookie scale
Melo	$1.0	Rookie scale
Joseph	$0.5	Guess based on Moore's deal
Draft Picks	$2.6
Steisma	$1.0	Cap hold
Kristic	$8.3	Cap hold
Cap Holds	$9.3

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[celticinorlando]

Same money he got on a 1 yr voided deal. Big whoop, 4yrs & 36. Ainge is constructing a very nice bench. If Ainge hits on 1 of his 3 draft picks, this Celtic team is [dang] scary. Pietrus & probably Wilcox up next. Maybe even Krstic.

Rondo/Terry
Bradley/Pietrus
Pierce/Green/Joseph
Bass/Sullinger/Johnson
KG/Krstic/Wilcox/Melo

1 spot left open, maybe for Moore or Dooling. Or a trade Ainge has in the works.

Think you are right...not sure they can pay Pietrus. I think they lose him and bring another Sg in on the cheap....also think dooling is back and Moore is the odd man out

[Snakehead]

You could argue that Boston's biggest downfall over their last few seasons has been their lack of dept - firstly because they have an uncanny tendancy to get hit by injuries, and secondly because they just haven't had ANY consistent scorer on the bench.

If Boston had even one consistent scoring threat off the bench last season I can all but guarantee you they would have been in the NBA Finals, and quite possibly have banner 18.

By adding Jason Terry, Boston finally got themselves that consistent scorer who could potentially put them over the hump.  

Jeff Green has never averaged less than about 15 points per 36 minutes as long as he's been in the NBA, and yes that includes his season with Boston (check the numbers).

Best case scanario nobody gets hurt and Jeff Green gives Boston a second consistent double figure scorer off the bench.  

Worst case scenario Boston gets hit AGAIN with injuries, and Jeff Green gives them:

2. Insurance for Terry in case he gets hurt (as a 6th man)
3. Insurance for Pierce in case he gets hurt (as a SF)
4. Insurance for Bass in case he gets hurt (as a PF)

That is a lot of insurance for a team who (in the past) has so desperately lacked exactly that...and if adding Green turns out the difference between a 2nd round exit and a championship ring, he will have earned every cent.

Add to the that fact that he's only about 25 years old and could well develop into a 20/8 (Antawn Jamison) type guy and the contract makes perfect sense.

It's more then I would have liked, but given how critical he is to Boston's roster at this point in time, it's entirely justified.

This is 100% correct. Tommy point for this guy.
Jeff is a versatile player that is only going to improve now that his medical problems have been fixed at age 25.
Lock him in now and we are set with Rondo, Green, Avery and rookies for a decent young core with three solid veteran leaders in KG, Pierce and Terry.

People are acting like this is Gilbert Arenas 2.0
Puhh-Leeeassee.

This is exactly right.  The versatility is a factor you have to consider in his salary.

I'm happy.  I expect him to improve.

[Brendan]

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Thanks - I updated for better reading. I have them at 64.11 excluding the option guys (JJJ, Moore, Williams), draft picks, and cap holds.

So my understanding is they can sign vet minimum guys now, but will need to renounce some people to use the BAE because of Kristic's cap hold. I'm not 100% on the new CBA yet.

Dooling also has something like a 4m cap hold, but he and the other vet FA (Hollins, Pavlovic, Daniels) are all minimum guys IMO - so the Celts can renounce and sign later if needed.

[bbd24]

Same money he got on a 1 yr voided deal. Big whoop, 4yrs & 36. Ainge is constructing a very nice bench. If Ainge hits on 1 of his 3 draft picks, this Celtic team is [dang] scary. Pietrus & probably Wilcox up next. Maybe even Krstic.

Rondo/Terry
Bradley/Pietrus
Pierce/Green/Joseph
Bass/Sullinger/Johnson
KG/Krstic/Wilcox/Melo

1 spot left open, maybe for Moore or Dooling. Or a trade Ainge has in the works.

Think you are right...not sure they can pay Pietrus. I think they lose him and bring another Sg in on the cheap....also think dooling is back and Moore is the odd man out

Could very well be true. Moore has a tough job ahead of him.

This is a solid squad even counting the rookies out. Now imagine just one of the rooks chipping in & helping next year albeit early.

Darn good team.

[davemonsterband]

Why is it a foregone conclusion to so may people that this guy can't improve or develop? How much floor has he seen in green? It's a fantastic signing. How good of a defender was Paul Pierce before KG came to town? How quality of a player was Perk? Everyone grows playing on this squad when they get some run in, and you can't teach height. He thrived in a ROLE in OKC, he can do the same here. Everything's going in the right direction, especially if Sullinger pans out.

[mgent]

Well, it's better than $40 million.  I'd prefer it if the last year was non-guaranteed, but what can you do?

Same.

I understand this is one of those cases where you pay double what the guy has earned for potential, but if all we care about is winning now why wouldn't we give Ray 3yr, 27mil?  Same money for an at least equal if not better player with way more experience.

[JSD]

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Thanks - I updated for better reading. I have them at 64.11 excluding the option guys (JJJ, Moore, Williams), draft picks, and cap holds.

So my understanding is they can sign vet minimum guys now, but will need to renounce some people to use the BAE because of Kristic's cap hold. I'm not 100% on the new CBA yet.

How much can we sign Kristic for and still use the BAE?

[kozlodoev]

How much can we sign Kristic for and still use the BAE?

Pretty much a maximum contract. Except that's irrelevant, since we have to stay at about $68 million in order to be able to offer Terry the full MLE.