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Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #105 on: July 05, 2012, 06:27:28 PM »

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Yes, please get rid of JJJ and Moore for a dependable big. Anthony Randolph pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #106 on: July 05, 2012, 06:29:19 PM »

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Yes, please get rid of JJJ and Moore for a dependable big. Anthony Randolph pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Yeah I really want to get Randolph here though I still think theres hope for JJJ

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #107 on: July 05, 2012, 06:30:06 PM »

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Trade Moore and JJJ as a part of a package for a Center or something. If not I am ok with this as well but would be great if we could give NO something like JJJ Moore and a protected 1st rounder or even 2 second rounders for Kaman, and a increased salary that we couldn't have given him in FA. Would be a great lineup!

Rondo/Terry
Bradley/Allen (Hopefully!)
Pierce/Green/Pietrus
KG/Bass/Sully
Kaman/Melo/Sully

That would give KG much needed rest, Help in the rebounding department with Kaman, and we would have a very good bench something like this is streches.

Terry
Allen
Green
Sully
Melo

OR

Terry
Allen
Pietrus
Green
Sully
i have no clue why you think Kaman is worth all that 0_0.....

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #108 on: July 05, 2012, 06:31:27 PM »

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Yes, please get rid of JJJ and Moore for a dependable big. Anthony Randolph pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Since when was Ant a dependable big? Don't get me wrong i am a fan of his, but idk about dependable.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #109 on: July 05, 2012, 06:33:05 PM »

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Yes, please get rid of JJJ and Moore for a dependable big. Anthony Randolph pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Since when was Ant a dependable big? Don't get me wrong i am a fan of his, but idk about dependable.

No one gave him enough consistent playing time. Look at his PER and stats when he did get minutes. I see him as like Jermaine when he was with Portland, all star ready to breakout.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #110 on: July 05, 2012, 06:34:35 PM »

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If it's 20 mil over 3 years, DA still has a good deal of room for maneuvering.

Assuming that KG gets paid $11 mil next year, that Bass is for $7 mil next year, and the rookies came in for slot, DA's at $59 mil after signing Bass.

If Ray comes back at the $6 mil per season, that's $65 mil.

In order to use the larger MLE that he's agreed to with JET, the payroll can be no more than $4 mil above the luxury tax level.  This has been reported as $74 million, because the CBA agreed that the minimum the luxury tax could be is $70.3 mil, so a "hard cap" of $74.3 mil is the number we mostly look at.  However, back in February, the cap was projected to be somewhere between $60-$61 million.  This would move the luxury tax range to between $71.7 and $72.9 million, meaning the true cap could be between $75.7 and $76.9 million.  

Using the lower of the two numbers means that if we get back Ray, we could pay over $10 mil to Green.  Supposing Green gets about $7 mil next year in a deal of similar size to Bass, that could leave us with between $3.7-$4.9 to go after Krstic with, or plenty of room to fit someone in under the Bi-Annual.  Furthermore, signing Krstic would mean releasing Sean Williams from his partially guaranteed contract, saving us another $900K to give to Krstic.

Mind you, these numbers could be off a little, but I think they're pretty conservative/likely.  I'd expect the C's to add Kristic, as I doubt he'll get the mid-level from anyone, unless they surprisingly break the bank on Green.  Depending how the salaries are structured, they might have enough room to go after someone else with the Bi-Annual, but I'll think they'll keep that bullet in their chamber to ward off potential Stiemsma suitors.

Unfortunately, if they don't keep Ray, the numbers look about the same, only the C's will probably not be a tax-paying team at all, since there is no other exception available to pay someone the $6 million set aside for Ray.

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« Reply #111 on: July 05, 2012, 06:36:03 PM »

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Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #112 on: July 05, 2012, 06:36:26 PM »

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I said the same thing!

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #113 on: July 05, 2012, 06:37:20 PM »

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Yes, please get rid of JJJ and Moore for a dependable big. Anthony Randolph pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Since when was Ant a dependable big? Don't get me wrong i am a fan of his, but idk about dependable.

No one gave him enough consistent playing time. Look at his PER and stats when he did get minutes. I see him as like Jermaine when he was with Portland, all star ready to breakout.
Did you see JJJ's PER? Although it's weird Ant is younger but the kid is 6"10 and still under 200 LBS!!!! yes UNDER

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #114 on: July 05, 2012, 06:42:15 PM »

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Yes, please get rid of JJJ and Moore for a dependable big. Anthony Randolph pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Since when was Ant a dependable big? Don't get me wrong i am a fan of his, but idk about dependable.

No one gave him enough consistent playing time. Look at his PER and stats when he did get minutes. I see him as like Jermaine when he was with Portland, all star ready to breakout.
Did you see JJJ's PER? Although it's weird Ant is younger but the kid is 6"10 and still under 200 LBS!!!! yes UNDER

? Anthony Randolph is an inch taller than JJJ and weighs 225 lbs. His PER was also 17.6 last season as opposed to JJJ's 11.44. He's also younger and more experienced. What are you trying to say?  ???

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3455/anthony-randolph

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #115 on: July 05, 2012, 06:58:21 PM »

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Yes, please get rid of JJJ and Moore for a dependable big. Anthony Randolph pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Since when was Ant a dependable big? Don't get me wrong i am a fan of his, but idk about dependable.

No one gave him enough consistent playing time. Look at his PER and stats when he did get minutes. I see him as like Jermaine when he was with Portland, all star ready to breakout.
Did you see JJJ's PER? Although it's weird Ant is younger but the kid is 6"10 and still under 200 LBS!!!! yes UNDER

? Anthony Randolph is an inch taller than JJJ and weighs 225 lbs. His PER was also 17.6 last season as opposed to JJJ's 11.44. He's also younger and more experienced. What are you trying to say?  ???

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3455/anthony-randolph
Well this is where i was looking http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Anthony-Randolph-1069/

but my point is why give up on JJJ and have such high hopes for randolf? They BOTH apparently do well per min they play. Randolf has been on terrible teams and still couldn't be a consistent starter/role player that must mean something. Those teams had nothing to lose whilst the C's are always in contention which is why we couldn't give jjj much mins.

Everyone agrees that JJJ didn't show much because he didn't play much and i think if we give him a solid opportunity he will show everyone he is important for our future just as AB did.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #116 on: July 05, 2012, 07:03:32 PM »

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I said the same thing!
That was my first thought too, but I think it is unlikely. Ainge has to negotiate these contracts in good faith of everyone on the team will wonder if they are safe.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #117 on: July 05, 2012, 07:04:32 PM »

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I imagine it is somewhere between $18-21 million over three years.

Probably closer to $18 million.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #118 on: July 05, 2012, 07:05:08 PM »

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Yes, please get rid of JJJ and Moore for a dependable big. Anthony Randolph pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Since when was Ant a dependable big? Don't get me wrong i am a fan of his, but idk about dependable.

No one gave him enough consistent playing time. Look at his PER and stats when he did get minutes. I see him as like Jermaine when he was with Portland, all star ready to breakout.
Did you see JJJ's PER? Although it's weird Ant is younger but the kid is 6"10 and still under 200 LBS!!!! yes UNDER

? Anthony Randolph is an inch taller than JJJ and weighs 225 lbs. His PER was also 17.6 last season as opposed to JJJ's 11.44. He's also younger and more experienced. What are you trying to say?  ???

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3455/anthony-randolph


Anthony Randolph is not a dependable big. If he was, a team would have depended on him by now.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #119 on: July 05, 2012, 07:06:18 PM »

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I said the same thing!
That was my first thought too, but I think it is unlikely. Ainge has to negotiate these contracts in good faith of everyone on the team will wonder if they are safe.

You can't do a sign and trade without the consent of the player being traded.  The trade is part of the contract the player signs.  #88 on Coon's FAQ.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q88