Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)

[MBunge]

I'm very happy to have Bass back, especially at the numbers being talked about.

However, if we're gonna start KG at the 5, Bass at the 4 and Pierce at the 3, Doc absolutely MUST do something schematically to address the rebounding issue.  KG is very good but no longer dominant on the boards, Bass is a below average rebounder and age is starting to affect Pierce on the boards.

Mike

[Roy H.]

Financially must signal that Ray must be gone...

Why, we had the Ray offer out there while we were pursuing Bass and Terry.  All of this has been explained.

The real concern now should be Jeff Green.  If he gets a big offer we cannot beat it and still use the MLE on Terry, I think.

I think we have a Green deal essentially in place.  We've also got some wiggle room under the $74 million hard cap right now.

OK, that's what I hoped but because we hadn't heard anything I was skeptical.

So now, excluding Allen and the Stiemer Q.O., it's basically the BAE and vet mins, correct?

Yeah, essentially.  We've got some free agents we can give a 20% raise to, and if we whiff on Ray, we have Krstic's Bird rights.  Basically, though, it's sign Ray, find a backup big or two, and maybe bring back Pietrus.

[Fafnir]

I'm very happy to have Bass back, especially at the numbers being talked about.

However, if we're gonna start KG at the 5, Bass at the 4 and Pierce at the 3, Doc absolutely MUST do something schematically to address the rebounding issue.  KG is very good but no longer dominant on the boards, Bass is a below average rebounder and age is starting to affect Pierce on the boards.

Mike

Hopefuly Sullinger can come in and provide some better rebounding at the 4.

[cltc5]

Smells like Before July 11 Bass or Ray or both will be a celtic and then not one.

How do you mean?

Too much going on here today between 2 players that we've been having issues with signing since the beginning.  Amidst them looking at other teams, things start to be defining themselves and The C's are in the mix of it.  Just appears some deals are working behind the scenes and we may not have heard the last of this movement.  ANd I think the Bass money isa little on the high end for what Danny would pay.  Rumor has it the nets were interested in bass so something coulda came into play or with the Clippers.  Just not settling well for me, or it could be the lasagna lol

[the_Bird]

I'm very happy to have Bass back, especially at the numbers being talked about.

However, if we're gonna start KG at the 5, Bass at the 4 and Pierce at the 3, Doc absolutely MUST do something schematically to address the rebounding issue.  KG is very good but no longer dominant on the boards, Bass is a below average rebounder and age is starting to affect Pierce on the boards.

Mike

Hopefuly Sullinger can come in and provide some better rebounding at the 4.

That's my hope, too (or for JJJ to make an AB-like leap in Year 2, but that's probably not realistic ).  But, having Bass around at least means that the kids won't be forced to play if they aren't ready.  I mean, if we had to play JJJ all of Bass' minutes last year, no way we're making the ECF.  People will Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. and moan about "Doc's not playing the kid!," but by and large I think his approach (play them when they're ready, not before) has proven to be successful.

[Mr October]

Bass staying is good news. The length is good news and if the C's can still bring back Green and Allen, the cost is good news.

Bass returning makes me feel better about the Terry signing.

[j804]

So it's 3 years around 20mil not bad with what scrubs been getting around the league

[Moranis]

I'm very happy to have Bass back, especially at the numbers being talked about.

However, if we're gonna start KG at the 5, Bass at the 4 and Pierce at the 3, Doc absolutely MUST do something schematically to address the rebounding issue.  KG is very good but no longer dominant on the boards, Bass is a below average rebounder and age is starting to affect Pierce on the boards.

Mike

Hopefuly Sullinger can come in and provide some better rebounding at the 4.

Sullinger will be a much better rebounder than anyone the Celtics had last year aside from KG (and Rondo positionally speaking).  His technique, positioning, and instincts are incredible and considering the greatest rebounder in history was a small relatively unathletic guy who just outworked people, I think Sullinger will be fine at the NBA level.

[Fafnir]

Bass staying is good news. The length is good news and if the C's can still bring back Green and Allen, the cost is good news.

Bass returning makes me feel better about the Terry signing.

Yeah once we spent the MLE on a guard we needed to keep Bass.

[celticinorlando]

Cs having a good offseason. Bass is a good keep. Now we get jeff back on board and earmark 6 mill for ray..if he turns boston down...they use that 6 mill to sign whoevers

[Fafnir]

Cs having a good offseason. Bass is a good keep. Now we get jeff back on board and earmark 6 mill for ray..if he turns boston down...they use that 6 mill to sign whoevers

Sadly if Ray goes and we don't S&T him that 6 million will vanish.

Maybe we could pay Jeff Green more with it.

[celticinorlando]

well if ray walks...we have more to offer green...how much will be left to get pietrus, wilcox or another SG?

[Eddie20]

Financially must signal that Ray must be gone...

Why, we had the Ray offer out there while we were pursuing Bass and Terry.  All of this has been explained.

The real concern now should be Jeff Green.  If he gets a big offer we cannot beat it and still use the MLE on Terry, I think.

I think we have a Green deal essentially in place.  We've also got some wiggle room under the $74 million hard cap right now.

OK, that's what I hoped but because we hadn't heard anything I was skeptical.

So now, excluding Allen and the Stiemer Q.O., it's basically the BAE and vet mins, correct?

Yeah, essentially.  We've got some free agents we can give a 20% raise to, and if we whiff on Ray, we have Krstic's Bird rights.  Basically, though, it's sign Ray, find a backup big or two, and maybe bring back Pietrus.

Where are we at approximately cap wise? Better yet, if we improve the offer to Ray, by about a million per, how much would we able to offer Krstic?

[satch]

If we can get the same officiating next year that the Heat got this year I like our chances. Did Stern ever say who's turn it was next year?

[Fafnir]

Financially must signal that Ray must be gone...

Why, we had the Ray offer out there while we were pursuing Bass and Terry.  All of this has been explained.

The real concern now should be Jeff Green.  If he gets a big offer we cannot beat it and still use the MLE on Terry, I think.

I think we have a Green deal essentially in place.  We've also got some wiggle room under the $74 million hard cap right now.

OK, that's what I hoped but because we hadn't heard anything I was skeptical.

So now, excluding Allen and the Stiemer Q.O., it's basically the BAE and vet mins, correct?

Yeah, essentially.  We've got some free agents we can give a 20% raise to, and if we whiff on Ray, we have Krstic's Bird rights.  Basically, though, it's sign Ray, find a backup big or two, and maybe bring back Pietrus.

Where are we at approximately cap wise? Better yet, if we improve the offer to Ray, by about a million per, how much would we able to offer Krstic?

Hard to say, the figure for Jeff Green hasn't been given out by anyone.

I think that means our offer is conditional on how much "room" we have under 74 million.