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Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #45 on: July 05, 2012, 04:14:02 PM »

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Watch the 4th quarter of game 7 of that Miami series.  Bass let Lebron get past him EVERY time down the court.  I was screaming at my TV that whole quarter to get this guy off the court - he is a liability.  
Well who didn't LeBron get by in the playoffs this year? Besides Bass is a true PF, the fact that he handled LBJ as well as he did was impressive.

Bass did well in our defensive system next to KG, glad he's back. After all what other options would you replace him with?

I was waiting for someone to say exactly this.  Really, Faf - i could have guarded LBJ better in that 4th quarter.  He got waaaay too close to him every time down the floor which allowed him to drive past him and get a layup or dish to an open man because he needed so much help.  Paul should have been guarding him in the 4th quarter of a game 7 anyway, but Bass was seriously pitiful in that quarter.  It wasn't physical - it was mental.  Give him space and make him pass or take an outside shot, right?

I see where you are coming from but i put that on Doc for not adjusting more than i do on Bass
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Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2012, 04:14:37 PM »

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Blakely says the Bass deal is 3 years, about 20 million.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #47 on: July 05, 2012, 04:14:44 PM »

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Watch the 4th quarter of game 7 of that Miami series.  Bass let Lebron get past him EVERY time down the court.  I was screaming at my TV that whole quarter to get this guy off the court - he is a liability. 
Well who didn't LeBron get by in the playoffs this year? Besides Bass is a true PF, the fact that he handled LBJ as well as he did was impressive.

Bass did well in our defensive system next to KG, glad he's back. After all what other options would you replace him with?

I was waiting for someone to say exactly this.  Really, Faf - i could have guarded LBJ better in that 4th quarter.  He got waaaay too close to him every time down the floor which allowed him to drive past him and get a layup or dish to an open man because he needed so much help.  Paul should have been guarding him in the 4th quarter of a game 7 anyway, but Bass was seriously pitiful in that quarter.  It wasn't physical - it was mental.  Give him space and make him pass or take an outside shot, right?

Just curious who you saw slow down LeBron in the playoffs?

No one.  Either you force him out with a strong guy like Bass or you put a SF or guard on him like Harden and he gets muscled.

We had to score.  Our defense was NOT the issue.


I have to laugh at those critical of the decision to use Bass and his D in Game 7... did they watch game 6?  We tried the other options and got MURDERED.
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Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #48 on: July 05, 2012, 04:14:44 PM »

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Am I the only one not really happy with this?  Bass is a pretty good offensive player but his lack of defense KILLED us in the Miami series and in many situations throughout the playoffs.  

You mean his "lack of defense" when he was asked to guard Lebron on the perimeter?  That's hardly fair in my opinion.

Overall, Bass' defense was top-notch.  Statistically, he measured out in the elite range.  He turned out to be a really good fit in our system, which was something that I never expected.

I think this is an overstatement, but I agree with the sentiment.  Bass was a very solid defender, and part of one of the best defensive teams in the league.

I still really hope Sully steps up, so they can bring Bass off the bench.  A bench with Terry, Green, and Bass would inject a ton of energy and offense.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2012, 04:14:56 PM »

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Watch the 4th quarter of game 7 of that Miami series.  Bass let Lebron get past him EVERY time down the court.  I was screaming at my TV that whole quarter to get this guy off the court - he is a liability.  
Well who didn't LeBron get by in the playoffs this year? Besides Bass is a true PF, the fact that he handled LBJ as well as he did was impressive.

Bass did well in our defensive system next to KG, glad he's back. After all what other options would you replace him with?

I was waiting for someone to say exactly this.  Really, Faf - i could have guarded LBJ better in that 4th quarter.  He got waaaay too close to him every time down the floor which allowed him to drive past him and get a layup or dish to an open man because he needed so much help.  Paul should have been guarding him in the 4th quarter of a game 7 anyway, but Bass was seriously pitiful in that quarter.  It wasn't physical - it was mental.  Give him space and make him pass or take an outside shot, right?
Paul was doing even worse on LBJ that series, which was perhaps the bigger problem.

Bass did get driven by, but he wasn't exactly crowding LBJ. LBJ still had room to pull up and shoot if he wanted, instead he just drove.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2012, 04:15:05 PM »

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Financially must signal that Ray must be gone...

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2012, 04:15:18 PM »

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This has sign and trade with ray written all over.  Welcome to the C's Nick Young :D

Not sure how/why this happens. Clips pulled out of the Ray talks after signing Crawford today.
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Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #52 on: July 05, 2012, 04:15:35 PM »

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Am I the only one not really happy with this?  Bass is a pretty good offensive player but his lack of defense KILLED us in the Miami series and in many situations throughout the playoffs.  

You mean his "lack of defense" when he was asked to guard Lebron on the perimeter?  That's hardly fair in my opinion.

Overall, Bass' defense was top-notch.  Statistically, he measured out in the elite range.  He turned out to be a really good fit in our system, which was something that I never expected.

The eye test tells me otherwise, Roy.  He made a lot of mental errors on D.  I know LBJ is not an easy guy to stay in front of - but every single time down the floor he got past Bass without even being touched.  It really was bad...
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Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #53 on: July 05, 2012, 04:15:52 PM »

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Watch the 4th quarter of game 7 of that Miami series.  Bass let Lebron get past him EVERY time down the court.  I was screaming at my TV that whole quarter to get this guy off the court - he is a liability.  
Well who didn't LeBron get by in the playoffs this year? Besides Bass is a true PF, the fact that he handled LBJ as well as he did was impressive.

Bass did well in our defensive system next to KG, glad he's back. After all what other options would you replace him with?

I was waiting for someone to say exactly this.  Really, Faf - i could have guarded LBJ better in that 4th quarter.  He got waaaay too close to him every time down the floor which allowed him to drive past him and get a layup or dish to an open man because he needed so much help.  Paul should have been guarding him in the 4th quarter of a game 7 anyway, but Bass was seriously pitiful in that quarter.  It wasn't physical - it was mental.  Give him space and make him pass or take an outside shot, right?
Paul was doing even worse on LBJ that series, which was perhaps the bigger problem.

Bass did get driven by, but he wasn't exactly crowding LBJ. LBJ still had room to pull up and shoot if he wanted, instead he just drove.

This is not a concern, Jeff Green will be guarding Lebron next time, not Bass. And Bradley will be on Wade.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2012, 04:15:57 PM »

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Blakely says the Bass deal is 3 years, about 20 million.

So essentially what Baby got. That's not bad considering the way players are getting overpaid right now.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2012, 04:16:19 PM »

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Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2012, 04:16:24 PM »

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Financially must signal that Ray must be gone...

Not true at all.

Even if its on the high end 8 million per and ray gets 6 million that still leaves around another 6 million and change for Green and other low salary guys.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #57 on: July 05, 2012, 04:16:50 PM »

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Financially must signal that Ray must be gone...


Why?


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Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #58 on: July 05, 2012, 04:16:55 PM »

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Blakely says the Bass deal is 3 years, about 20 million.

So essentially what Baby got. That's not bad considering the way players are getting overpaid right now.
One year less than baby, that's important.

Re: Brandon Bass staying (per Bulpett)
« Reply #59 on: July 05, 2012, 04:16:56 PM »

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Financially must signal that Ray must be gone...


Why, we had the Ray offer out there while we were pursuing Bass and Terry.  All of this has been explained.

The real concern now should be Jeff Green.  If he gets a big offer we cannot beat it and still use the MLE on Terry, I think.