Lou Williams as Celtics' Sixth Man?

[LEHGOCELTICS]

Meh.

I admire Williams scoring abilities, but he'll be commanding a ton of money and years and I don't know if that's where the C's should go.

We drafted Kris Joseph, why can't he be the scoring option off the bench. He's not as good as Lou Will, but he won't command as much. And for that matter, E'Twaun.

Well with KG signing for at least two more years, I think the plan is to win now. And with that in mind, rookies and sophomores aren't the best of remedies, even if AB turned out the way he did.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Chauncey does sound nice, especially because he has a good relationship with KG from their T-Wolves days. I don't know, just putting some options out there, especially since the Celtics were rumored to be chasing the likes of Jamal Crawford and O.J., and I see Lou Will fitting better than both of them. They say defense wins championships, but ranking 26th in the league in scoring surely doesn't help with that. With Pierce and Ray on the definite decline, I'm just saying it would be nice to have a young potent scorer to pair with Rondo. Lou Will, or O.J., I'd prefer over Ray at this point.

You're right it's nice to have offensive fire power. But i think guys like Ray and Chauncey will be more valubale to the Celtics come late in the playoffs. NBA is all about crunch time and Mayo and Williams make me nervous because they are unproven and if their shots arent hitting we could be in trouble (James Harden in the finals). Ray and Chauncey can be trusted in clutch situations. They've both won a title and know what it takes. I think that is a really under rated attribute in the league.

Ehh, I agree we do need big shot guys but KG and PP can more than hit enough... we need someone who can create and score in bunches off the bench (I guess that will be JG). I'm in the minority here when it comes to Ray as I have seen, but I actually don't care if he comes back or not, I think it could help us if he doesn't tbh (IF we get someone akin to a Mayo or Lou). I will cheer Ray of course because I do like him but I just think we need to either get someone+him or someone to replace him.

[cltc5]

Would love to get Sweet Lou

[gpap]

I guess it's just me, but I don't get the fascination with gunners around here: Crawford, Mayo, JR Smith, Lou Williams, Marshon Brooks.  Is Nick Young available?

Hmm, because those guys can you know, actually put the ball in the net. Last time I checked, that was the object of the game, unless something changed in the NBA and I didn't get the memo.

[snively]

He's probably looking for a Rodney Stuckey sized deal, if not more - don't think the C's can offer that much and the Sixers likely aren't that interested in our sign and trade guys (they need a center and they probably need to keep Lou). 

[KGs Knee]

Plan A is going to be bringing back Ray.  If plan A fails, I'd like to see us go after Jason Terry.

Terry strikes me as a guy who would be willing to accept a MLE offer for a contender.   Depending on what Dallas does, he may not be back there.  Sure, some other team might offer him more than the MLE, but does he have any interest in signing with a team who is mediocre at best.  I don't know what his priorities are; money or a ring?

[cltc5]

I guess it's just me, but I don't get the fascination with gunners around here: Crawford, Mayo, JR Smith, Lou Williams, Marshon Brooks.  Is Nick Young available?

Hmm, because those guys can you know, actually put the ball in the net. Last time I checked, that was the object of the game, unless something changed in the NBA and I didn't get the memo.

and because Rondo gets tired of waiting 10 seconds for the rest of the team to mosey on up the court

[LEHGOCELTICS]

Plan A is going to be bringing back Ray.  If plan A fails, I'd like to see us go after Jason Terry.

Terry strikes me as a guy who would be willing to accept a MLE offer for a contender.   Depending on what Dallas does, he may not be back there.  Sure, some other team might offer him more than the MLE, but does he have any interest in signing with a team who is mediocre at best.  I don't know what his priorities are; money or a ring?

If he takes the MLE, I'd welcome him like no other. That would open up a lot of cap space for us to get a legitimate center.

[Celtics18]

I guess it's just me, but I don't get the fascination with gunners around here: Crawford, Mayo, JR Smith, Lou Williams, Marshon Brooks.  Is Nick Young available?

Hmm, because those guys can you know, actually put the ball in the net. Last time I checked, that was the object of the game, unless something changed in the NBA and I didn't get the memo.

The point of the game is still the same.  Personally, I just have an aversion to guys who get most of their buckets on off the dribble, pull up jump shots.  Sure, guys like that can get hot, but for the most part, offense stagnates when they are on the floor.  I don't think their style fits our system or fits with a PG like Rondo or a big like KG. 

I prefer guys who feel more comfortable spotting up and moving without the ball who can also play solid D, run the floor, and do more of the little things.  Guys like, for example, Avery Bradley, and, hopefully, Kris Joseph. 

If people feel compelled to talk about free agents who aren't our own, I'd rather go after someone like Brandon Rush or Nic Batum (who we probably won't get). 

[LEHGOCELTICS]

I guess it's just me, but I don't get the fascination with gunners around here: Crawford, Mayo, JR Smith, Lou Williams, Marshon Brooks.  Is Nick Young available?

Hmm, because those guys can you know, actually put the ball in the net. Last time I checked, that was the object of the game, unless something changed in the NBA and I didn't get the memo.

The point of the game is still the same.  Personally, I just have an aversion to guys who get most of their buckets on off the dribble, pull up jump shots.  Sure, guys like that can get hot, but for the most part, offense stagnates when they are on the floor.  I don't think their style fits our system or fits with a PG like Rondo or a big like KG. 

I prefer guys who feel more comfortable spotting up and moving without the ball who can also play solid D, run the floor, and do more of the little things.  Guys like, for example, Avery Bradley, and, hopefully, Kris Joseph. 

If people feel compelled to talk about free agents who aren't our own, I'd rather go after someone like Brandon Rush or Nic Batum (who we probably won't get). 

The offense can't stagnate any more for us than it did the most recent season. We struggled to go over even 80 ppg and we had stretches where we couldn't score for even half of a quarter. That is unacceptable; I am not saying that we need to switch to an offensive gameplan like the Suns of the old but we need scorers  that can create their own shot in these situations. The very scoters you're saying that we don't need. And AB and Joseph aren't going to do that anytime soon.

[AshyLarry]

I love Skippy's game, but not for the C's. Not this year at least. Too much money for someone who isn't the right fit right now.

[pearljammer10]

we wont have the money to sign him

[LEHGOCELTICS]

we wont have the money to sign him

Let Ray bolt and don't overpay for scrubs and we'll have enough to sign him.

[Celtics18]

I guess it's just me, but I don't get the fascination with gunners around here: Crawford, Mayo, JR Smith, Lou Williams, Marshon Brooks.  Is Nick Young available?

Hmm, because those guys can you know, actually put the ball in the net. Last time I checked, that was the object of the game, unless something changed in the NBA and I didn't get the memo.

The point of the game is still the same.  Personally, I just have an aversion to guys who get most of their buckets on off the dribble, pull up jump shots.  Sure, guys like that can get hot, but for the most part, offense stagnates when they are on the floor.  I don't think their style fits our system or fits with a PG like Rondo or a big like KG. 

I prefer guys who feel more comfortable spotting up and moving without the ball who can also play solid D, run the floor, and do more of the little things.  Guys like, for example, Avery Bradley, and, hopefully, Kris Joseph. 

If people feel compelled to talk about free agents who aren't our own, I'd rather go after someone like Brandon Rush or Nic Batum (who we probably won't get). 

The offense can't stagnate any more for us than it did the most recent season. We struggled to go over even 80 ppg and we had stretches where we couldn't score for even half of a quarter. That is unacceptable; I am not saying that we need to switch to an offensive gameplan like the Suns of the old but we need scorers  that can create their own shot in these situations. The very scoters you're saying that we don't need. And AB and Joseph aren't going to do that anytime soon.

I'm not saying that we don't need scorers.  I'm saying that I like us better with scorers that fit better within the scheme of the offense. 

I think that Ray Allen fits that bill nicely as an off the bench scorer, even at his advanced age.  Remember that in last year's playoffs, Mickael Pietrus and Keyon Dooling where our bench scorers.  Those guys played admirably, but they don't represent a lot of offensive firepower.

If we can re-sign Ray and Jeff Green, then our bench scoring ability goes up dramatically without having to sign one of those high volume shooters that everyone seems to be so keen on. 

[Cman]

I don't think we're going to have the money.  I expect we'll go over the cap, and will sign somebody using the MLE (which I don't expect Williams to accept.)

Thank you.

I think celtics fans need to come to terms with the fact that, while on paper we are "under the cap", in reality we are not, because we have a bunch of valuable FAs whose rights we are not going to relinquish.

In other words, even though Jeff Green, Brandon Bass and Ray Allen may not come back to the Celtics, they all are currently putting a pretty sizeable cap hold on the Cs. We can renounce them all, and make a run at.... Lou Williams. But isn't it more valuable to not renounce them, and either (a) re-sign them or (b) engage in a S&T? That's a rhetorical question, because the answer, of course, is yes.