RA first, then KG, PP next? Still playoff bound?

[Tr1boy]

Chances of RA and KG coming back are not looking good right now. RA rumors of going to the Heat or any other team are escalating, then there is Kg's rumor of retiring. Danny has to prepare for the worse. What will also happen with PP?? With almost a full rebuild ready to happen, will he want to stick around for it or be unhappy as he was before we got the RA and KG? Does he feel good with at least an experienced Rondo and Bradley, or a new start too much for his patience.

I think the way KG is stalling right now, i doubt he will be back. He might not retire but he might take a long break and join the team during the second half. Like many stated that know him, celts will be his last team he ever plays for again in the nba. I know he still has alot of fire left.

Going back to pierce, i really wonder how he feels about everything. Maybe if he shows a little voice of displeasure between now and the draft, would it be better for him and celts to part ways? He could be traded to a contending team or to the west coast(his home area) and we could pick up picks to armour our thin lineup.

If pp will be kept , i doubt danny will trade both of our picks to move up. We need bodies and luckily until the 25th pick, this is a pretty solid draft. For example Terrence Ross could go anywhere from 8 to 21st.

Also good to know Pitrus regardless of what happens wants to comeback, Bass with a fair deal, could be resigned, Dooling, Hollins, Stiesma, very serviceable players i'm sure will be easy to obtain. You add a decent vet or two, and we still have a playoff bound team, esp with Rondo, Bradley and Rivers. But without a huge piece or two in KG and PP, we could be looking up from the 7th , 8th seed instead of the usual 4 and higher.

Like someone mentioned this is a very huge draft for us. And its better for Danny to keep a big chunk of money and target better FA's coming out next year and the year after. Who knows like the 76rs with the right mix of youth and vets, we could surprise in the playoffs and get the team going in the right direction.

Thoughts?

 

[D Dub]

I think KG wants to win & the draft represents so many variables, he shouldn't make a decision until Ainge brings home the bacon.

In other words, expect KG to retire if we end up keeping both picks.

[rondohondo]

The C's likely already know KG is coming back, it sounds like he definitely is from what Doc and Danny are saying. Why would they let the rest of the NBA know before the draft? What if KG is retiring and the rest of the teams know this, this puts the c's in bad position to make trades because teams will know they are desperate because KG is retiring .

I fully expect KG to be back and most likely Ray if he doesn't ask for more than 3 or 4 mil.

If KG retires you let Ray and Bass walk and you trade PP for picks and young established players (OJ Mayo, Millsap types)

Tank for a year and get into the lottery

then in 2013 you will be able to offer near 2 max contracts to a strong free agent class and would also have a lottery pick to build around with Rondo,Bradley,Green, JJJ and two first this year .

[GreenFaith1819]

IMO, I think KG is just waiting to see how Danny drafts...how he signs players...who he signs.

He wants to make sure that the team we have next year will be able to compete for a title, and seeing how Danny has done so far this team will be able to compete for just that, I believe.

As for Ray - I wouldn't count him gone - just yet. Sadly it seems as if some here on the blog are already gift-wrapping him to MIA.

I'm at peace with Ray Allen leaving - if it gets to that point (hopefully, it won't). But if he does, I certainly expect us to look to sign someone who can come close to replacing his output (Jamal Crawford)?

If KG decides to NOT come back (but Paul and Ray does), then unfortunately I only see perhaps the 1st round of the playoffs for BOS.

I think that KG is perhaps the BIGGEST domino here. If THAT domino is knocked over, then perhaps others could fall as well.

[wahz]

It not in our best interest to let other teams be aware of what KG is doing either way. So, imho, we know what KG is doing and we will act appropriately tomorrow with that info.

I suspect he is staying and DA knows that but DA may have some pressure from KG to add a center or add a piece KG thinks we should add. Lets not forget, KG only came here in the first place after he saw Ray had been added to PP.

I think we will grab a vet tomorrow somehow. But if we instead accumulate draft picks, Im going to be waiting for some bad news on KG and Ray

[LooseCannon]

IMO, I think KG is just waiting to see how Danny drafts...how he signs players...who he signs.

What if KG is waiting to see if Danny Ainge treats Ray Allen with respect?

[csfansince60s]

The C's likely already know KG is coming back, it sounds like he definitely is from what Doc and Danny are saying. Why would they let the rest of the NBA know before the draft? What if KG is retiring and the rest of the teams know this, this puts the c's in bad position to make trades because teams will know they are desperate because KG is retiring .

I fully expect KG to be back and most likely Ray if he doesn't ask for more than 3 or 4 mil.

If KG retires you let Ray and Bass walk and you trade PP for picks and young established players (OJ Mayo, Millsap types)

Tank for a year and get into the lottery

then in 2013 you will be able to offer near 2 max contracts to a strong free agent class and would also have a lottery pick to build around with Rondo,Bradley,Green, JJJ and two first this year .

+1...sounds like a plan to me...

also think that both KG and Allen come back, and if not KG, then blowup time

[csfansince60s]

IMO, I think KG is just waiting to see how Danny drafts...how he signs players...who he signs.

What if KG is waiting to see if Danny Ainge treats Ray Allen with respect?

I think that the only player that KG's retirement is contingent upon is PP. I think that both Allen and Rondo gone won't be dealbreakers for KG. If PP is shipped out (blasphemy) KG will be gone.

[Tr1boy]

It starts with KG like someone stated. If he comesback + PP + Bradley + Rondo , we will still be one of the best in the east. The main nucleus will be there I hope people are right and Ainge knows already and is awaiting after the draft, then announce he will be back for another year. I prefer this route and not a total rebuild. However if a total rebuild happens i will be patient, excited and frustrated at the same time. We need to draft players with good character , work ethic and that will fit right into the team. Imo that means staying away from kids like moultrie and t Jones.

[LooseCannon]

IMO, I think KG is just waiting to see how Danny drafts...how he signs players...who he signs.

What if KG is waiting to see if Danny Ainge treats Ray Allen with respect?

I think that the only player that KG's retirement is contingent upon is PP. I think that both Allen and Rondo gone won't be dealbreakers for KG. If PP is shipped out (blasphemy) KG will be gone.

I didn't say that Ainge had to absolutely resign Allen, just that he has to treat him respectfully in negotiations. 

[j804]

IMO, I think KG is just waiting to see how Danny drafts...how he signs players...who he signs.

What if KG is waiting to see if Danny Ainge treats Ray Allen with respect?

I think that the only player that KG's retirement is contingent upon is PP. I think that both Allen and Rondo gone won't be dealbreakers for KG. If PP is shipped out (blasphemy) KG will be gone.

I didn't say that Ainge had to absolutely resign Allen, just that he has to treat him respectfully in negotiations. 

he will be treated w/ respect either way yea his name came up in trade rumors happens to even the best of them but they wouldn't disrespect him the the way some say management did a Tony Allen.

I agree though KG probably has an idea already Ray might be gone and do what's best for himself, bet he is waiting to see if Danny is going to keep Paul around and reload or might just step away if it's a total rebuild year ( he doesn't want to be the last of the old guys around a bunch of kids wants to play for another run)

You notice in Pierces final postgame presser he practically begged Danny to bring back KG so both of them can ride off to the sunset together in a year or two

[Hanson6]

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