JJJ and Jeff Green and draft day dilemma

[fairweatherfan06]

As I look in this draft there is no way we can keep all these picks (unless forced to do so)  None of our needs are within reach (past the first 6 picks) and this draft is full of players we could have used LAST YEAR.  This is all assuming we're not going into rebuild if we are then we draft best available but I assume we're running it back so:

NEEDS: A center or large PF that can allow KG to move back to PF

In the draft (within or picking range 16-23)
Fab Melo
Festus Ezeli
Arnett Moultrie

None of these guys are ready to play regular minutes in the NBA especially on a team run by Doc.

What this draft is full of in our range is backup PF (maybe KG heir apparents)  Guys like Nicholson, Sullinger, Royce White etc. Guess what? We drafted JJJ.  He's been playing with us a year knows our system and learning under KG.  There are guys with possibly more talent than him in this draft but more ready to play and contribute than him...I doubt it.

What else this draft has is combo forwards. (Jones boys Quincy Miller, Harkless) Guess who we have waiting to be signed Jeff Green.

Backup Center?  Steamer is ready to come back.


I can't see us keeping more than one of these picks unless Danny literally sees no deals to be made.

Sidenote: I think the only legit thing we can draft for that we don't already have at an upgrade waiting in free agency is backup PG.  I like Bradley's choice Tony Wroten though I think Kendall Marshall would also do.

[BleedGreen1989]

If no trades are there to be made, which is a scenario I highly doubt (I would be very suprised to see Danny NOT make a trade) then you simply take the best talent available and worry about it later.

BTW there's no way KMarsh will be there at 21

[Cman]

If no trades are there to be made, which is a scenario I highly doubt (I would be very suprised to see Danny NOT make a trade) then you simply take the best talent available and worry about it later.

Completely agree with this logic.
Basically look for trades that will help the team, if no trades to liking, then BPA. Don't worry in June about how the roster will shake out in November.

[gar]

Green is not a done deal. His agent says he has looked at several teams.
Nor is Allen or KG for that matter.
Bass is looking.

Hopefully Danny will hear from KG by thurs; but that still leaves a lot of roster spots.

Can't see him making any major moves until he is able to nail down some free agents - moving Bradely for a Big perhaps; but he can always accumulate assets through the draft or sign and trade a FA w/o parting with Rondo.

[cdiraimo]

Danny has said it numerous times he didn't know if he would be keeping both picks... I can see him trading one for an early 2nd rounder this year and a future first.. I see danny excited over a player like Draymond Green from Michigan state who is extremely polished and can be picked up in the early 2nd. Should be able to contribute right away (he has the bass/baby mold to him, undersized power forward but has skills).

[letsgoblue86]

You forget about free agency my friend.

[clover]

Even if KG returns, he apparently really doesn't want to play center.  Moving up for Drummond, Leonard or Zeller--and hoping he turns into a future starter--would interest me.

Also, if he stays where he is in the draft and, say, Nicholson is the best player available, I think he takes him and doesn't worry about a guy who couldn't even get Doc to dress him for the games (figuratively, that is) last year.

Finally, as to the 3's, I think there may be some future starters in Harkless, Miller or Fournier available, and there's no reason for Danny to pass on them because he might have Jeff Green back next year.

[Change]

Ainge has 15 man roster to fill. Best case scenario majority of our FA comeback: Garnett, Green, Bass, Ray, and Wilcox.

Rondo/??/Moore
Avery/Ray
Pierce/Green
Garnett/Bass/Johnson
Wilcox/??

10 players+2rookies (Wroten & Melo)

Rondo/Wroten/Moore
Avery/Ray
Pierce/Green
Garnett/Bass/Johnson
Wilcox/Melo

3 remaining spots cheap vets.

[Vermont Green]

Ainge has 15 man roster to fill. Best case scenario majority of our FA comeback: Garnett, Green, Bass, Ray, and Wilcox.

Rondo/??/Moore
Avery/Ray
Pierce/Green
Garnett/Bass/Johnson
Wilcox/??

10 players+2rookies (Wroten & Melo)

Rondo/Wroten/Moore
Avery/Ray
Pierce/Green
Garnett/Bass/Johnson
Wilcox/Melo

3 remaining spots cheap vets.

Sean Williams is on a very affordable team option contract so I think he will be given a shot plus you forgot Steisma who we have on a qualifying offer that I am guessing he takes.

Unfortunately, I don't see Ray coming back and I think Rondo is getting traded which will shake things up significantly.

[fairweatherfan06]

I think Sean Williams is gonna get some minutes next year as a backup big another reason I think any draftee will not get much run.  I think Harkless has the the work ethic to thrive on a team with veterans, and would get major minutes without Jeff Green (if signed) needing minutes

[indeedproceed]

Take the best available talent if you keep the first rounders. The only exception I'd make is taking Sullinger and then take the guy Danny thinks has the highest reachable ceiling. Sullinger would cost less than half Bass would, and will likely be as effective or better.

[ctrey]

I think it is quite possible we keep both picks. If you include Sean Williams and E. Moore, both of whom we can renounce, we have a total of six players signed for next year. That means at a bare  minimum we have to have at least six other players. We are trying to keep our cap under control so having rookie contracts are very attractive.

[mloyko]

No matter the sport and no matter what spot your drafting at, you   draft to take the best player available. If you draft for need you end up reaching and it bites you in the end.

Danny Ainge has been pretty good at picking the BPA on their board. Avery Bradley, Gerald Green, Al Jefferson were the BPA. We are in a very good spot this year because I feel like there is a drop off right around pick 20-21 and it's a guarantee that 1-2 teams will draft out of order, pushing a player down to us and I think danny will take the best player who falls to our picks.

[CeltsAcumen]

Um David Falk, Jeff Green's agent claims he has 12-14 teams interested in JG.

Now I am sure that is agent exaggeration, but do not fool yourself Jeff Green probably will go to another team or use another team to jack up the cost to the Celtics.

There is no loyalty in the NBA and Jeff Green is a unrestricted FA who hired one of the best NBA Agents around.

I would not count Jeff Green as an easy sign.  Which makes that trade even worse.  I still have no idea how anyone can give DA credit for the negligent administration of the Perkins for Green trade.

[ballin]

Um David Falk, Jeff Green's agent claims he has 12-14 teams interested in JG.

Now I am sure that is agent exaggeration, but do not fool yourself Jeff Green probably will go to another team or use another team to jack up the cost to the Celtics.

There is no loyalty in the NBA and Jeff Green is a unrestricted FA who hired one of the best NBA Agents around.

I would not count Jeff Green as an easy sign.  Which makes that trade even worse.  I still have no idea how anyone can give DA credit for the negligent administration of the Perkins for Green trade.

Agreed. While it's obviously not Ainge's fault that Green had a heart condition, I don't think that even a healthy JG this past year was worth sacrificing a starting-caliber center.