Danny nailing the picks in this draft is important..

[cman88]

because, even if we are going to bring the gang back and contend next year we are sort of in a transition Era where we need to look at the present as well as the future

1. we need solid young players who can contribute and bridge the gap to the next era.
2. Danny needs to start building chips.

listening to Danny/Wyc I doubt they want to go back to the days of 20win teams and hoping that the draft lottery goes your way..they know it didnt...or we'd be sitting here with Duncan or Durant....so what you have to do is nail the picks you make in the 20's as solid players so you have "assets"

this team was built through ainge doing solid drafting with players like Gomes, delonte west, green, big al and then cashing in on those players....and the players he didnt trade ended up being Rondo, BBD, perk, TA

so, if danny can nab 2 solid players this year. you've got Bradley, Johnson, Moore...depending on how the 2nd year guys develop those are some nice young players that danny can develop and either keep as a building block(Bradley, Rondo) or package together and "cash in" on a disgruntled star who wants to leave town..

[jyyzzoel]

guaranteed he's going to bring in another borderline all-star this season just off of sign and trades. he's going to be trader danny - and because of that, i would say it's more important in his book to assess possible trade scenarios.

regardless of what he said on WEEI last week about him getting two good players during the draft - he was just giving standard answers, giving people the standard response.

please correct me if im wrong, but i think he said that our free agents were just as good if not better than any of the free agents this year: BLATANT LIE!

are you telling me our players are as good as steve nash, deron williams, gerald wallace, or even jason kidd at his age? no way.

he's gonna do some trades, at least along the proportion of the david west one he tries to pull last year i'd say.

he'll only keep both picks in the draft as a last option.

edit: danny operates PURELY off of logic. i remember telling my brother last year that either perk or baby or both (but most likely perk) will get traded by the trading deadline because it was the most logical thing to do... it's my opinion the most logical thing to do is what ive outlined above, especially considering his past comments about how he'd rather have one superstar or all-star rather than 2 borderline all stars - im paraphrasing of course u need the big pieces before u fill out the team with role players.

[LarBrd33]

guaranteed he's going to bring in another borderline all-star this season just off of sign and trades. he's going to be trader danny - and because of that, i would say it's more important in his book to assess possible trade scenarios.

regardless of what he said on WEEI last week about him getting two good players during the draft - he was just giving standard answers, giving people the standard response.

please correct me if im wrong, but i think he said that our free agents were just as good if not better than any of the free agents this year: BLATANT LIE!

are you telling me our players are as good as steve nash, deron williams, gerald wallace, or even jason kidd at his age? no way.

he's gonna do some trades, at least along the proportion of the david west one he tries to pull last year i'd say.

he'll only keep both picks in the draft as a last option.

edit: danny operates PURELY off of logic. i remember telling my brother last year that either perk or baby or both (but most likely perk) will get traded by the trading deadline because it was the most logical thing to do... it's my opinion the most logical thing to do is what ive outlined above, especially considering his past comments about how he'd rather have one superstar or all-star rather than 2 borderline all stars - im paraphrasing of course u need the big pieces before u fill out the team with role players.

You think we're adding a borderline allstar... Guaranteed?? That's not guaranteed at all.  It's just as possible we lose a borderline allstar.

You don't think Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen are on the same level as Steve Nash and Jason Kidd at this point?  KG just played like an MVP from February-onward.  Ray Allen was playing with bone spurs, but when healthy he's superior to Jason Kidd.  Ray is still an elite shooter.  He shot 46% this year.  45% from three (a career high)... 92% from the line.  He's an impact player on the right team (such as ours).  Brandon Bass is one-dimensional a bit, but a very effect starter who fit perfectly with this team (big man who can knock down the mid-range consistently... he and KG combined helped keep big men out of the paint... effectively allowing Rondo to penetrate to the basket and limit his terrible shooting).   I agree Deron Williams is the best free agent available, but going after him would be redundant unless we plan on trading ROndo.  Gerald Wallace is alright, but he's about to be significantly overpaid by the Nets.  When it comes to unrestricted free agents... our guys are all definitely in the top 10.

DOn't give your hopes up on landing another star.  Makes a lot more sense for us to just keep Ray, KG, Bass, Jeff Green and even Krstik using bird rights.  Theoretically we could end up trading someone in a sign-and-trade, but I wouldn't count on it.

[jyyzzoel]

guaranteed he's going to bring in another borderline all-star this season just off of sign and trades. he's going to be trader danny - and because of that, i would say it's more important in his book to assess possible trade scenarios.

regardless of what he said on WEEI last week about him getting two good players during the draft - he was just giving standard answers, giving people the standard response.

please correct me if im wrong, but i think he said that our free agents were just as good if not better than any of the free agents this year: BLATANT LIE!

are you telling me our players are as good as steve nash, deron williams, gerald wallace, or even jason kidd at his age? no way.

he's gonna do some trades, at least along the proportion of the david west one he tries to pull last year i'd say.

he'll only keep both picks in the draft as a last option.

edit: danny operates PURELY off of logic. i remember telling my brother last year that either perk or baby or both (but most likely perk) will get traded by the trading deadline because it was the most logical thing to do... it's my opinion the most logical thing to do is what ive outlined above, especially considering his past comments about how he'd rather have one superstar or all-star rather than 2 borderline all stars - im paraphrasing of course u need the big pieces before u fill out the team with role players.

You think we're adding a borderline allstar... Guaranteed?? That's not guaranteed at all.  It's just as possible we lose a borderline allstar.

You don't think Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen are on the same level as Steve Nash and Jason Kidd at this point?  KG just played like an MVP from February-onward.  Ray Allen was playing with bone spurs, but when healthy he's superior to Jason Kidd.  Ray is still an elite shooter.  He shot 46% this year.  45% from three (a career high)... 92% from the line.  He's an impact player on the right team (such as ours).  I agree Deron Williams is the best free agent available, but going after him would be redundant unless we plan on trading ROndo.

DOn't give your hopes up on landing another star.  Makes a lot more sense for us to just keep Ray, KG, Bass, Jeff Green and even Krstik using bird rights.  Theoretically we could end up trading someone in a sign-and-trade, but I wouldn't count on it.

lol. yeah sorry. in my brain KG is the celtics. he's not going anywhere - in my brain i totally forgot about ray as well. lol. epic fail by me

however i really do think that danny has enough pieces to put in a solid bid for someone like paul milsap and still keep KG and ray... no way DA sits idle. trade time i think.

[LarBrd33]

guaranteed he's going to bring in another borderline all-star this season just off of sign and trades. he's going to be trader danny - and because of that, i would say it's more important in his book to assess possible trade scenarios.

regardless of what he said on WEEI last week about him getting two good players during the draft - he was just giving standard answers, giving people the standard response.

please correct me if im wrong, but i think he said that our free agents were just as good if not better than any of the free agents this year: BLATANT LIE!

are you telling me our players are as good as steve nash, deron williams, gerald wallace, or even jason kidd at his age? no way.

he's gonna do some trades, at least along the proportion of the david west one he tries to pull last year i'd say.

he'll only keep both picks in the draft as a last option.

edit: danny operates PURELY off of logic. i remember telling my brother last year that either perk or baby or both (but most likely perk) will get traded by the trading deadline because it was the most logical thing to do... it's my opinion the most logical thing to do is what ive outlined above, especially considering his past comments about how he'd rather have one superstar or all-star rather than 2 borderline all stars - im paraphrasing of course u need the big pieces before u fill out the team with role players.

You think we're adding a borderline allstar... Guaranteed?? That's not guaranteed at all.  It's just as possible we lose a borderline allstar.

You don't think Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen are on the same level as Steve Nash and Jason Kidd at this point?  KG just played like an MVP from February-onward.  Ray Allen was playing with bone spurs, but when healthy he's superior to Jason Kidd.  Ray is still an elite shooter.  He shot 46% this year.  45% from three (a career high)... 92% from the line.  He's an impact player on the right team (such as ours).  I agree Deron Williams is the best free agent available, but going after him would be redundant unless we plan on trading ROndo.

DOn't give your hopes up on landing another star.  Makes a lot more sense for us to just keep Ray, KG, Bass, Jeff Green and even Krstik using bird rights.  Theoretically we could end up trading someone in a sign-and-trade, but I wouldn't count on it.

lol. yeah sorry. in my brain KG is the celtics. he's not going anywhere - in my brain i totally forgot about ray as well. lol. epic fail by me

No worries.  That's the thing though...  we have something like 25 million in cap space IF we let KG, Ray, Bass, Green, Krstik, Pietrus, etc all walk.  It makes more sense to just bring everyone back and exceed the cap using bird rights.  Maybe trades are possible, but I wouldn't count on it.  Just adding Jeff Green, a couple rookies and hopefully a vet big man with the MLE will improve our team significantly (if everyone stays healthy).  Probably still will not be enough to beat the Miami/Thunder dynasties, but it will at least make for a couple more years of entertaining runs until Pierce falls off the books and we can refocus.

[jyyzzoel]

guaranteed he's going to bring in another borderline all-star this season just off of sign and trades. he's going to be trader danny - and because of that, i would say it's more important in his book to assess possible trade scenarios.

regardless of what he said on WEEI last week about him getting two good players during the draft - he was just giving standard answers, giving people the standard response.

please correct me if im wrong, but i think he said that our free agents were just as good if not better than any of the free agents this year: BLATANT LIE!

are you telling me our players are as good as steve nash, deron williams, gerald wallace, or even jason kidd at his age? no way.

he's gonna do some trades, at least along the proportion of the david west one he tries to pull last year i'd say.

he'll only keep both picks in the draft as a last option.

edit: danny operates PURELY off of logic. i remember telling my brother last year that either perk or baby or both (but most likely perk) will get traded by the trading deadline because it was the most logical thing to do... it's my opinion the most logical thing to do is what ive outlined above, especially considering his past comments about how he'd rather have one superstar or all-star rather than 2 borderline all stars - im paraphrasing of course u need the big pieces before u fill out the team with role players.

You think we're adding a borderline allstar... Guaranteed?? That's not guaranteed at all.  It's just as possible we lose a borderline allstar.

You don't think Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen are on the same level as Steve Nash and Jason Kidd at this point?  KG just played like an MVP from February-onward.  Ray Allen was playing with bone spurs, but when healthy he's superior to Jason Kidd.  Ray is still an elite shooter.  He shot 46% this year.  45% from three (a career high)... 92% from the line.  He's an impact player on the right team (such as ours).  I agree Deron Williams is the best free agent available, but going after him would be redundant unless we plan on trading ROndo.

DOn't give your hopes up on landing another star.  Makes a lot more sense for us to just keep Ray, KG, Bass, Jeff Green and even Krstik using bird rights.  Theoretically we could end up trading someone in a sign-and-trade, but I wouldn't count on it.

lol. yeah sorry. in my brain KG is the celtics. he's not going anywhere - in my brain i totally forgot about ray as well. lol. epic fail by me

No worries.  That's the thing though...  we have something like 25 million in cap space IF we let KG, Ray, Bass, Green, Krstik, Pietrus, etc all walk.  It makes more sense to just bring everyone back and exceed the cap using bird rights.  Maybe trades are possible, but I wouldn't count on it.  Just adding Jeff Green, a couple rookies and hopefully a vet big man with the MLE will improve our team significantly (if everyone stays healthy).  Probably still will not be enough to beat the Miami/Thunder dynasties, but it will at least make for a couple more years of entertaining runs until Pierce falls off the books and we can refocus.

btw do u think krstic is an option? i think he's got a termination clause after one year of his 2 yr deal in europe, but i dont think he makes anywhere near as much money in the nba as hes making over there this season. would krstic really come back?

[EDWARDO]

The annual "We have to nail this draft it-- it holds the key to our future" thread. I had June 29th in the pool

[cman88]

The annual "We have to nail this draft it-- it holds the key to our future" thread. I had June 29th in the pool

Being so close to rebuilding I think its important that we develop young assets

[Neurotic Guy]

The annual "We have to nail this draft it-- it holds the key to our future" thread. I had June 29th in the pool

Being so close to rebuilding I think its important that we develop young assets

It may be a reduntant theme because it's always important to nail the draft.  Of course, the draft isn't the only way to improve a team, but it is one of the few ways, and therefore is always important.  Unfortunately even good drafters miss half the time. Danny's track record is pretty good.

[indeedproceed]

The annual "We have to nail this draft it-- it holds the key to our future" thread. I had June 29th in the pool

Being so close to rebuilding I think its important that we develop young assets

After next year,  we will have cap space, and a star in his prime in Rondo, or cap space and the assets a Rondo trade brings us.

This year we have 2 medium low draft picks.

It's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more important that Danny handles the use of the cap space well than these two draft picks. I'd be content , even ecstatic of we got 1 long-term starter from the draft, assuming there are no trades.

[ManUp]

The annual "We have to nail this draft it-- it holds the key to our future" thread. I had June 29th in the pool

Being so close to rebuilding I think its important that we develop young assets

After next year,  we will have cap space, and a star in his prime in Rondo, or cap space and the assets a Rondo trade brings us.

This year we have 2 medium low draft picks.

It's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more important that Danny handles the use of the cap space well than these two draft picks. I'd be content , even ecstatic of we got 1 long-term starter from the draft, assuming there are no trades.

True, but it doesn't hurt to have a few guys to package with that mid-levelish contract (Green, Bass, Ray etc) we are bound to have when/if a big fish is on the block. As we know just on potential alone young prospects can become fairly decent trade-able pieces. AB fits the bill, but I'm not sure about Johnson and Moore. I feel pretty optimistic about what we can find in this draft.

[LooseCannon]

If you're an idiot who thinks the Celtics need to blow things up and get into the lottery as soon as possible for the chance to draft a superstar, nailing the picks in this draft could be the worst possible thing.

[celticinorlando]

look at the drafts since the big 3 got here. i know they were picking low but they haven't hit anything...bradley looks to be a piece of the future but did little as a rookie..but I agree about needing this draft to produce legit rotation players. I don't see much in Johnson, nor moore and am very concerned about the bench this season

[mctyson]

look at the drafts since the big 3 got here. i know they were picking low but they haven't hit anything...bradley looks to be a piece of the future but did little as a rookie..but I agree about needing this draft to produce legit rotation players. I don't see much in Johnson, nor moore and am very concerned about the bench this season

automatically disqualified yourself with that statement, when AB started this team went 20-8.

[Fafnir]

look at the drafts since the big 3 got here. i know they were picking low but they haven't hit anything...bradley looks to be a piece of the future but did little as a rookie..but I agree about needing this draft to produce legit rotation players. I don't see much in Johnson, nor moore and am very concerned about the bench this season

automatically disqualified yourself with that statement, when AB started this team went 20-8.

Given that Avery Bradley started zero games as a rookie I think you shouldn't be so quick to toss "automatic DQs".

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bradlav01/gamelog/2011/