Okafor

[Kane3387]

We could not officially make this move on draft day unless we trade Pierce or Rondo. Not happening.

It would have to unfold like this:

Boston and NO agree to a trade on draft night, but don't announce it. The Hornets pick the tenth pick for Boston drafting the guy we tell them too.

When the time arises we then renounce our free agents. We complete with the trade with NO taking on Okafor and the rookie drafted at ten. Then we use the remaining cap space and any exceptions available to us to fill out our roster.

NO will not take Marvin Williams contract. They will not use amnesty because their ownership does not want to pay a guy not to play unless they have a good reason and Williams in not that.

If the Nets really want Okafor then they would just do the deal themselves where they also get the tenth pick.

[KGs Knee]

We could not officially make this move on draft day unless we trade Pierce or Rondo. Not happening.

It would have to unfold like this:

Boston and NO agree to a trade on draft night, but don't announce it. The Hornets pick the tenth pick for Boston drafting the guy we tell them too.

When the time arises we then renounce our free agents. We complete with the trade with NO taking on Okafor and the rookie drafted at ten. Then we use the remaining cap space and any exceptions available to us to fill out our roster.

NO will not take Marvin Williams contract. They will not use amnesty because their ownership does not want to pay a guy not to play unless they have a good reason and Williams in not that.

If the Nets really want Okafor then they would just do the deal themselves where they also get the tenth pick.

All of this could very well be true.

I do not, under any circumstance, want the Celtics to use their potential cap space on Okafor however.

I also think your'e under-rating Williams as a player though, quasi-bad contract aside.  Willaims is a significant upgrade over Ariza.

[mqtcelticsfan]

Three team trade maybe?

Bos- J Smith
Atl- E Okafor, #10 pick (NOH), #22 pick (Bos)
NOH- M Williams, #21 pick (Bos)

New Orleans hangs up the phone instantly. They're only offering the tenth pick to get out of a bad contract. They're certainly not going to take back a bad contract to make it happen.

[Kane3387]

We could not officially make this move on draft day unless we trade Pierce or Rondo. Not happening.

It would have to unfold like this:

Boston and NO agree to a trade on draft night, but don't announce it. The Hornets pick the tenth pick for Boston drafting the guy we tell them too.

When the time arises we then renounce our free agents. We complete with the trade with NO taking on Okafor and the rookie drafted at ten. Then we use the remaining cap space and any exceptions available to us to fill out our roster.

NO will not take Marvin Williams contract. They will not use amnesty because their ownership does not want to pay a guy not to play unless they have a good reason and Williams in not that.

If the Nets really want Okafor then they would just do the deal themselves where they also get the tenth pick.

All of this could very well be true.

I do not, under any circumstance, want the Celtics to use their potential cap space on Okafor however.

I also think your'e under-rating Williams as a player though, quasi-bad contract aside.  Willaims is a significant upgrade over Ariza.

I disagree, but even if he is, the upgrade isn't good enough to motivate NO to do this deal.

[pp34isthe1]

I think this makes sense for all teams

Boston Sends: Bass S&T, 3J, #21, 3mil cash
Boston Recieves: Josh Smith
Why? Boston turns Bass, a project, and a late first rounder into Josh Smith.

Atl Sends:Josh Smith
Atl Recieves:Okafor, #10, 3mil cash
Why? They get a solid true center in Okafor while moving Hortford to his natural position PF. Move Joe Johnson to the 3 and use the #10 to grab a SG.

NOH Sends: Okafor #10
NOH recieves: Bass, 3J, #21
Why? They essentially trade down 11 spots in the draft, dump Okafor, recieve a player who would fit nicely with Davis at PF and some young talent.

[KGs Knee]

I think this makes sense for all teams

Boston Sends: Bass S&T, 3J, #21, 3mil cash
Boston Recieves: Josh Smith
Why? Boston turns Bass, a project, and a late first rounder into Josh Smith.

Atl Sends:Josh Smith
Atl Recieves:Okafor, #10, 3mil cash
Why? They get a solid true center in Okafor while moving Hortford to his natural position PF. Move Joe Johnson to the 3 and use the #10 to grab a SG.

NOH Sends: Okafor #10
NOH recieves: Bass, 3J, #21
Why? They essentially trade down 11 spots in the draft, dump Okafor, recieve a player who would fit nicely with Davis at PF and some young talent.

I doubt New Orleans wants anything to do with Bass.  They had him once before and let him go.

Atlanta would want our #22 pick likely.

Maybe just omit Bas from the deal, and add the #22 pick for Atlanta, and it would work.  Any scenario in which we trade for Smith means we've renounced our FA's, and can therefore take back salary without sending any out.

[pp34isthe1]

Bass is a totally different player than when he was in NOH. Also Celtics wouldnt have to renounce their players would they? A Bass S&T say 7 mil, plus 3J (1 mil), plus 3mil cash to help salries that is 11mil. Smiths salary is 13.2mil and even Okafor has a salary of 13.5mil. That falls in the 125% of salary + 100,000. I could be totally wrong here.

The more I think about it, it makes more sense if KG and the Band are coming back together to just trade for Okafor and the #10. We get a solid 5 and KG can move back to PF.

Boston recieves Okafor #10
NOH recieves Bass, 3J, #21, #51, 3mil cash

2012-2013 Celtics

Rondo/Dooling/moore
Avery/Ray/Rivers
Pierce/Green/Pietrus
KG/Wilcox/#22
Okafor/Stiemsma/#22

Plus #10 (rivers) and #22 (?) picks
Rotation

Rondo 36 /Bradley 8/rivers 4
Bradley 16 /allen 22/rivers 10
Pierce 30/ green 12/ pietrus 6
KG  14/Wilcox 20/ Green 14
Okafor 26/KG 14/stiemsma 8

I doubt we would have a 11 man rotation but that is a great roster.

[KGs Knee]

Bass is a totally different player than when he was in NOH. Also Celtics wouldnt have to renounce their players would they? A Bass S&T say 7 mil, plus 3J (1 mil), plus 3mil cash to help salries that is 11mil. Smiths salary is 13.2mil and even Okafor has a salary of 13.5mil. That falls in the 125% of salary + 100,000. I could be totally wrong here.

There's a couple of problems with this.

-Bass would be subject to Base Year Compensation rules.  This means his outgoing trade value would be 4.25m.
-Cash included in a trade doesn't count as part of outgoing salary.

Essentially your trade proposal is only a total of 5.35m  (Johnson's salary next year is 1.1m) outgoing salary.  That would be nowhere near enough to meet the 125% requirement.