Avery Bradley and Jeff Green will be standouts

[KGs Knee]

I fail to see the buzz in Jeff Green. Seems like a very average player, at best.

TP...my sentiments exactly

I'd prefer to see Green used as trade bait for someone better, or even as part of a package to move up in the draft.

He's a free agent why would he agree to a sign and trade?

We posses his bird rights.  Meaning we can sign him to a larger amount than other teams may be able to.

Do people forget Glen Davis was an unrestricted FA last year.  We worked a sign and trade with Orlando, because they couldn't afford to sign him outright.  It's the same situation.

I'm pretty sure in the new CBA they negated the benefit of sign and trades.

Again, the Davis sign and trade was done under the new CBA.  There must still be some benefit.

[LooseCannon]

Starting in 2013-2014, there are rules to prevent teams paying luxury tax from doing sign and trades.  I think it is permitted for everyone else, though, so the benefit is still not having to use a salary cap exception to sign a free agent or being able to sign a player to an amount larger than you can do with an exception.

[Fafnir]

I fail to see the buzz in Jeff Green. Seems like a very average player, at best.

TP...my sentiments exactly

I'd prefer to see Green used as trade bait for someone better, or even as part of a package to move up in the draft.

He's a free agent why would he agree to a sign and trade?

We posses his bird rights.  Meaning we can sign him to a larger amount than other teams may be able to.

Do people forget Glen Davis was an unrestricted FA last year.  We worked a sign and trade with Orlando, because they couldn't afford to sign him outright.  It's the same situation.

I'm pretty sure in the new CBA they negated the benefit of sign and trades.

Again, the Davis sign and trade was done under the new CBA.  There must still be some benefit.

Sign and trade's allow you to offer more money if you lack cap space and are willing to exchange players for the new player. (Bass for Davis)

The annual raises and length of contract are no longer as good as just resigning with your current team however.

[Snakehead]

I fail to see the buzz in Jeff Green. Seems like a very average player, at best.

TP...my sentiments exactly

I'd prefer to see Green used as trade bait for someone better, or even as part of a package to move up in the draft.

20 ppg is average aparently... I'll take it!

[KGs Knee]

I fail to see the buzz in Jeff Green. Seems like a very average player, at best.

TP...my sentiments exactly

I'd prefer to see Green used as trade bait for someone better, or even as part of a package to move up in the draft.

20 ppg is average aparently... I'll take it!

When has Jeff Green ever averaged 20 PPG?

[Quetzalcoatl]

I fail to see the buzz in Jeff Green. Seems like a very average player, at best.

When has Jeff Green ever averaged 20 PPG?

In 08-09, he averaged 16.5 points, 6.6 rebounds and had a 44% fg shooting, the next year he was 15.1 pts per game, 6 boards and 45% shooting.  He only averaged 10/3 for us with his minutes going up, but to his credit he was shooting 49%.  What is really weird is I think I am getting ESPN stats from an alternate universe, for some reason this has him playing in 10-11 for OKC.  What the hell?

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3209/jeff-green

[2short]

I fail to see the buzz in Jeff Green. Seems like a very average player, at best.

TP...my sentiments exactly

I'd prefer to see Green used as trade bait for someone better, or even as part of a package to move up in the draft.

20 ppg is average aparently... I'll take it!

When has Jeff Green ever averaged 20 PPG?

never has but has averaged 15-16 points as a complimentary player, shoots good % and plays within team system
much like PP lead the team at around 18 points, i like doc's system, 4 or 5 guys average 14-19 points and anyone of them can go for 30
his low post game is a big key to next season (if he's with us)

[ainge]

Good point guys, Jeff Green probably will start at 4.

If he plays at less than stand out levels out of position though, don't write him off as an average player.

If I was Jeff Green, I'd probably want to go to a team that needed a starting 3, play well for a year, and get the nice contract he deserves.

 

I really dont see Jeff Green starting at the 4. Ainge and Doc have both made it clear that he was out of position in OKC and that they intend for him to be a 3.  They have even suggested him starting over pierce, Although I dont see that happening.

I think the most realistic lineup for next year is something like this....

Rondo [36 mpg] / dooling, andre miller, or kirk hinrich type player [12 mpg]

Bradley [32 mpg] / Rookie [16 mpg]

Pierce [28 mpg] / Green [20 mpg]

Free agent starting PF, hopefully Illyasova or Humphries [ 30 mpg] / Green [15 mpg] / Garnett [3 mpg]

Garnett [25 mpg] / wilcox [15 mpg] / rookie big [8 mpg]

or in an ideal situation, ray comes back on the cheap to take up the rookie minutes at the 2 gaurd, and takes 5 of bradleys minutes too, giving him around 20-25 minutes. And instead of playing wilcox and a rookie big minutes at the center, maybe we can find a way to get Kaman for cheap. Unlikely that we get both ray and a quality center though.

I think we will let bass walk now that he has declined his option.  We need to create more minutes for Green, and I think Green can do many of the things Bass did at the 4.  Even though Bass is more of a typical 4, his value essentially came from jumpshots.

Of course, maybe garnett retires and then I have no idea what happens.  But as long as Pierce and Garnett are back and Ray is gone, this is definitely what I see happening.  Go after a solid PF in freeagency, and try to draft a SG who is capable of playing some solid minutes.

[Boris Badenov]

I fail to see the buzz in Jeff Green. Seems like a very average player, at best.

When has Jeff Green ever averaged 20 PPG?

In 08-09, he averaged 16.5 points, 6.6 rebounds and had a 44% fg shooting, the next year he was 15.1 pts per game, 6 boards and 45% shooting.  He only averaged 10/3 for us with his minutes going up, but to his credit he was shooting 49%.  What is really weird is I think I am getting ESPN stats from an alternate universe, for some reason this has him playing in 10-11 for OKC.  What the hell?

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3209/jeff-green

10-11 was last year. He played for OKC before we traded for him.

On the scoring front, he could not be more average. His points per 48 mpg numbers in his last full season put him 98th out of 186 qualifying players in the league.

The ten players in front of him on the list were:

88   Marco Belinelli
89   Dorell Wright
90   Jarrett Jack
91   Raymond Felton
92   Goran Dragic
93   Gilbert Arenas
94   Nazr Mohammed
95   Gerald Wallace
96   Kyle Korver
97   George Hill

[Anomandaris]

 

The ten players in front of him on the list were:

88   Marco Belinelli
89   Dorell Wright
90   Jarrett Jack
91   Raymond Felton
92   Goran Dragic
93   Gilbert Arenas
94   Nazr Mohammed
95   Gerald Wallace
96   Kyle Korver
97   George Hill

That stat line is completely pointless.  He played on a team with Durant, Harden & Westbrook. How many shots do you think are left when playing with these 3 gunners? You can prove everything with stats, including the exact opposite...  

no offense, i'm just not that fond of using stats as the holy grail to make a point.

[2short]

The ten players in front of him on the list were:

88   Marco Belinelli
89   Dorell Wright
90   Jarrett Jack
91   Raymond Felton
92   Goran Dragic
93   Gilbert Arenas
94   Nazr Mohammed
95   Gerald Wallace
96   Kyle Korver
97   George Hill

That stat line is completely pointless.  He played on a team with Durant, Harden & Westbrook. How many shots do you think are left when playing with these 3 gunners? You can prove everything with stats, including the exact opposite...  

no offense, i'm just not that fond of using stats as the holy grail to make a point.

agreed, throw team ball movement into the fray, rondo and the need for green on low post and that stats changes quickly

[clover]

Good point guys, Jeff Green probably will start at 4.

If he plays at less than stand out levels out of position though, don't write him off as an average player.

If I was Jeff Green, I'd probably want to go to a team that needed a starting 3, play well for a year, and get the nice contract he deserves.

 

I really dont see Jeff Green starting at the 4. Ainge and Doc have both made it clear that he was out of position in OKC and that they intend for him to be a 3.  They have even suggested him starting over pierce, Although I dont see that happening.

I think the most realistic lineup for next year is something like this....

Rondo [36 mpg] / dooling, andre miller, or kirk hinrich type player [12 mpg]

Bradley [32 mpg] / Rookie [16 mpg]

Pierce [28 mpg] / Green [20 mpg]

Free agent starting PF, hopefully Illyasova or Humphries [ 30 mpg] / Green [15 mpg] / Garnett [3 mpg]

Garnett [25 mpg] / wilcox [15 mpg] / rookie big [8 mpg]

or in an ideal situation, ray comes back on the cheap to take up the rookie minutes at the 2 gaurd, and takes 5 of bradleys minutes too, giving him around 20-25 minutes. And instead of playing wilcox and a rookie big minutes at the center, maybe we can find a way to get Kaman for cheap. Unlikely that we get both ray and a quality center though.

I think we will let bass walk now that he has declined his option.  We need to create more minutes for Green, and I think Green can do many of the things Bass did at the 4.  Even though Bass is more of a typical 4, his value essentially came from jumpshots.

Of course, maybe garnett retires and then I have no idea what happens.  But as long as Pierce and Garnett are back and Ray is gone, this is definitely what I see happening.  Go after a solid PF in freeagency, and try to draft a SG who is capable of playing some solid minutes.

Glad to see I'm on the same page with the GM--just go get 'er done now!  (And be bold, start Green at the three by midyear!)

[LooseCannon]

I really dont see Jeff Green starting at the 4. Ainge and Doc have both made it clear that he was out of position in OKC and that they intend for him to be a 3.  They have even suggested him starting over pierce, Although I dont see that happening.

Start Green at the 3 and move Pierce to the 4, obviously.

[j804]

I'm ecstatic to see what a trio of Rondo/Bradley/Green will look like next year with a full training camp together

[Change]

Good point guys, Jeff Green probably will start at 4.

If he plays at less than stand out levels out of position though, don't write him off as an average player.

If I was Jeff Green, I'd probably want to go to a team that needed a starting 3, play well for a year, and get the nice contract he deserves.

 

I really dont see Jeff Green starting at the 4. Ainge and Doc have both made it clear that he was out of position in OKC and that they intend for him to be a 3.  They have even suggested him starting over pierce, Although I dont see that happening.

I think the most realistic lineup for next year is something like this....

Rondo [36 mpg] / dooling, andre miller, or kirk hinrich type player [12 mpg]

Bradley [32 mpg] / Rookie [16 mpg]

Pierce [28 mpg] / Green [20 mpg]

Free agent starting PF, hopefully Illyasova or Humphries [ 30 mpg] / Green [15 mpg] / Garnett [3 mpg]

Garnett [25 mpg] / wilcox [15 mpg] / rookie big [8 mpg]

or in an ideal situation, ray comes back on the cheap to take up the rookie minutes at the 2 gaurd, and takes 5 of bradleys minutes too, giving him around 20-25 minutes. And instead of playing wilcox and a rookie big minutes at the center, maybe we can find a way to get Kaman for cheap. Unlikely that we get both ray and a quality center though.

I think we will let bass walk now that he has declined his option.  We need to create more minutes for Green, and I think Green can do many of the things Bass did at the 4.  Even though Bass is more of a typical 4, his value essentially came from jumpshots.

Of course, maybe garnett retires and then I have no idea what happens.  But as long as Pierce and Garnett are back and Ray is gone, this is definitely what I see happening.  Go after a solid PF in freeagency, and try to draft a SG who is capable of playing some solid minutes.

Glad to see I'm on the same page with the GM--just go get 'er done now!  (And be bold, start Green at the three by midyear!)

you are such a suck up lol. As the best GM in the NBA, Danny don't let Tony Wroten slip past Celtics if he there.