Ray+Bass for Amare Stoudemire

[bcgenuis]

Forget a moment about the cut hand.

Would you sign and trade Ray ($10mm) and Bass($8mm)to the Knicks for Amare($18mm) and a first rounder?  In theory 2 bench players (important ones) for a high quality PF/C. Would need bench help at the swing and PF spot or JJJ and ETM need to step up. Perhaps sign our old friend Eddie House for 3 point shooting to replace Ray's skill.

NYK's do it because Melo and Amare pairing hasnt worked out.

BOSTON:
KG/Amare/Stiemsma
Amare/Wilcox/Green/JJJ
Pierce/Green/Pietrus/JJJ
Bradley/Moore/Pierce
Rondo/Dooling/House
+ 2 first rounders (Quis, Pavlovic)

NEW YORK:
Chandler
Bass/Jeffries
Melo
Allen/Shumpert
Lin

ROTATION:
KG, Amare, Green, Pierce, Rondo (offense +)
KG, Amare, Pietrus, Bradley, Rondo (defense +)

KG 25-30 @ C
Amare 8-13 @ C
Stiem 10 @ C

Amare 22-25 @ PF
Green 10-12 @ PF
Wilcox 10 @ PF

Pierce 20 @ SF
Green 20 @ SF
Pietrus 8 @ SF

Bradley 32 @ SG
Pierce 7-10 @ SG
Moore 8-11 @ SG

Rondo 35 @ PG
Dooling/House 13 @ PG

[Celtic Fan Forever]

No way we take on that miserable contract

[wdleehi]

The cut hand isn't the issue.


The body that has been so beaten up, the long and large contract can not be insured. 



That is a red flag you can not ignore.

[chambers]

They could do better than Ray+Bass in all honesty.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Even if, talent wise the Knicks lose this trade, lets break down who Amare is right now. Good scorer but a banged up body, two microfracture surgeries, back problems and 60 million dollars and no insurance.

Should we do this trade with all that said...

[jambr380]

Amare still has that alluring name, a guy that came out of high school and impressed all with his athleticism and connection with Steve Nash. I know during the 10-11 season, he did quite well, but I think a lot of that is lost. Taking on that contract is a recipe for disaster and would totally stifle our ability to rebuild for the future.

At this point of their careers, who would you rather have, regardless of dollars/contract? Amare or Josh Smith? Smith is the one we need to go hard after this offseason. Maybe use the same pieces in a three way deal with Atlanta.

[twinbree]

Just no. Even putting aside that awful contract. Any PF we put next to KG has to be at worst a mediocre defender and rebounder. I don't know if it was injuries this season but his movement and lift have been troubling.

[st.jimmy222]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Who]

Tempting but ultimately no. Too many health issues.

[vjcsmoke]

Tempting but ultimately no. Too many health issues.

Agreed.  Amare has the potential to turn into the next Jermain O'Neal. It's too bad.  A couple of years ago, this deal would have looked like a steal for the Celtics.

[Fafnir]

Tempting but ultimately no. Too many health issues.

Agreed.  Amare has the potential to turn into the next Jermain O'Neal. It's too bad.  A couple of years ago, this deal would have looked like a steal for the Celtics.

Yeah, looking very similar just breaking down physically at this point.

[CFAN38]

I dont think either team touches that deal. Amare's health/contract is to dangerous for the Cs to risk and trading Amare for 37yr old ray and journey man Bass would be a PR nightmare for new york.

[pearljammer10]

not a good deal for either team.

[action781]

New York wouldn't unless there was a key free agent to go after and they were 100% positive they were going to land him.

I think it should be very tempting for Boston.  I read posters saying "too much of a health risk" and "bad contract"... what do people think we're going to get?  A cheaper player who is more talented and has a clean bill of health?  That player is not walking through that door via trade or free agency.

If we're acquiring a star player in a trade, he's likely going to be at least one of, if not both of, overpaid or not 100% healthy.  Remember that Ray Allen had very questionable ankles when we traded for him and he gave us some productivity for 5 years.  We'd only have Amare under contract for 3 years.  And if he DOES stay healthy... Wow.  Come on, imagine this for a second, people.  I think we've become maybe favorites to win the title.

Rondo
Bradley
Pierce
Amare
KG

with Green off the bench able to come in at the 4 and slide Amare to the 5 would give us an absolutely awesome lineup.

[SHAQATTACK]

AHhhh........NO...OOOOOOOOOOO

Stoudemire is a "HAS BEEN" ...his body is worn out for the NBA use. His back is shot and he 'll just be a drag or sitting out like old JO was for the remiander of his years. He has a VERY VERY bad back. 

He'll come off the bench a few more years "MAYBE" and he'll be cooked/end of story. He is looking for a team like the HEAT where he can get a ring while he still can add something.   He is sort a like Carl Malone at his end. ,  he is at the end looking for a ride with LBJ to get a ring. or maybe LA.

NO CARL , NO MELLO on the Celtics is a "GOOD THING" .  Money pits........both