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The Heat will dominate for years no matter what Danny does
« on: June 10, 2012, 10:37:46 AM »

Offline snowball

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Look, this Celtic team was one of the BEST FOUR
teams in the entire NBA this year. If Danny blows
this up, do not even expect to get that far for
years. If Danny keeps 2/3 of the Big 3, Rondo,
and gets Green,Wilcox,Bradley healthy we have
a chance but the bottom line is that Pat Riley
put together a SUPERTEAM. One that many talented
role players will want to play for for years.
The Heat will have no problem stacking their bench
for low cost because there are players who just want
to be a part of it.
Look at them, virtually nobody can beat that team
when Bosh is healthy and Wade gets back to 100%.
They are going to dominate the East for years.
I believe they will be a dynasty.

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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2012, 10:41:44 AM »

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they are contenders for 5-8 more years. C's are sert at the backcourt with Rondo and Bradley for the next 5 years. C's need to find a go to scorer at the wing who can also defend against James (Kidd Gilchrist?) . They also clearly need to low post scoring/rebounding/shot blocking .

The c's have a lot of draft picks and assets ,They can rebuild this thing rather quickly with the addition of one big free agent or trade .

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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2012, 10:48:26 AM »

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  If Bradley was healthy we'd have won the series. If they can upgrade Bass's spot, a team that starts Rondo/KG/PP/Bradley/pf and brings Green/Wilcox/Pietrus/Dooling (for example) off the bench could clearly compete with the Heat next year.

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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2012, 11:07:12 AM »

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I think a team with size can beat them.  There are plenty of teams out west the could have given the Heat problems.  Not sure how the C's get size, but until the Miami gets a 7 foot defender/shot blocker they have a legit weakness.  Once they get that guy though, forget it.

If they manage to beat the Thunder I will be very surprised.

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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2012, 11:09:57 AM »

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Yeah, I'm not so sure about this idea. Fact is, we took them to the limit without Bradley, Wilcox, or Green, and with a hobbled Ray and Paul. With the new CBA, Miami won't be able to upgrade much outside of the 3 frontrunners, and I suspect some of their other guys (Chalmers, etc.) might get more money from other teams. I think we can retool (if Ray and KG are willing to come back on short deals, which I think they might be), get healthy, and do some damage next year, too. Rondo's team-friendly deal will be a HUGE factor in our favor moving forward.

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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2012, 11:16:42 AM »

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  If Bradley was healthy we'd have won the series. If they can upgrade Bass's spot, a team that starts Rondo/KG/PP/Bradley/pf and brings Green/Wilcox/Pietrus/Dooling (for example) off the bench could clearly compete with the Heat next year.

Not if Bosh was healthy.  Bradley would have made very little difference in that series. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2012, 11:29:33 AM »

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Thing is Wade keeps on having knee problems he only may have 3 more years and he wont have much of a game considering he depends on his athletic ability.

Our broken down team took them 7 games. If Green was healthy he would have been starting, guarding Battier and able to close down on his 3's faster, or stay in front of James a little better than Bass did. Then you have Bass off the bench were he was at his best, and Wilcox filling in for KG. Bradley would D Wade up, and you don't have to double team, and that leaves KG able to guard Bosh and slow him down.

The Heats D wasn't that good, PP and Rondo got to the rim, and PP had a bum knee, even Ray got there. They also go really good shots off as well. And their roll players are not going to get much better.

If OCK beats them badly in the finals, I could see the Heat rethinking things and trading Bosh for some bench help, or even Wade.

You don't need star players to beat them, the C's proved that, you just need a TEAM that can exploit their weakness's

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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2012, 11:34:53 AM »

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ummm,no.  The cHeat are a group of individuals.  I see Sixers, Pacers, Bulls, perhaps Atlanta and Boston all bein in the mix the next few years.  Until the cHeat learn to play as a team, they wont dominate.  They got the luck of the draw this year with Chicago goin out early, and an aging team like us took them to 7 games.  they are worse than last year.

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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2012, 11:37:23 AM »

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The Heat's best shot is to surround Lebron with a solid supporting cast, instead of just 2 big names. I think Bosh is great, but imagine Lebron on a team like the Bulls instead of Rose, that would be a much better team than what he has now, the Heat are flourishing right now because of how great Lebron is but I don't think the situation is ideal.

That being said, I sincerely hope that OKC denies them a championship this year and for many years to come.

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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2012, 11:41:47 AM »

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This is one of the reasons that I'd love to see the Thunder beat them this year.  If the Heat stays together, they probably have a six or seven year window of being top contenders.  If the NBA can escape this run with them winning four titles or less, I'll be relatively satisfied. 

Call me petty, but one of my main goals for the immediate future of the NBA is to see this Heat team win significantly less than the eight titles they promised us when they got together. 
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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2012, 11:48:52 AM »

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This is one of the reasons that I'd love to see the Thunder beat them this year.  If the Heat stays together, they probably have a six or seven year window of being top contenders.  If the NBA can escape this run with them winning four titles or less, I'll be relatively satisfied. 

Call me petty, but one of my main goals for the immediate future of the NBA is to see this Heat team win significantly less than the eight titles they promised us when they got together. 

I have no idea why many people think that. Wade, who is starting to show wear, is already 30. Plus he relies so heavy on his athleticism that the loss of quickness and explosiveness will impact his game more than others. Think Steve Francis.  James is 27, but has been logging 40MPG since he was 18. Is he going to hold up? If so, for how long? He's been lucky thus far without a significant injury, but everybody has them.

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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2012, 11:52:08 AM »

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Not sure how well Wade and Bosh will age.

Both guys have had injury problems and Wade in particular relies heavily on his explosive athleticism to be effective.

So yes, the Heat are dominant right now but who is to say for how long. Their window might not be that great (read: long) + there is a real chance they miss out on a year here or there in the playoffs due to an injury to one of their stars.

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  If Bradley was healthy we'd have won the series. If they can upgrade Bass's spot, a team that starts Rondo/KG/PP/Bradley/pf and brings Green/Wilcox/Pietrus/Dooling (for example) off the bench could clearly compete with the Heat next year.

Not if Bosh was healthy.  Bradley would have made very little difference in that series. 
Agreed. The legend of Bradley continues to grow in his absence. He wasn't ever a great shooter.

It's hardly time to give up the Heat ghost, or the ghost of this era. I am confident KG and Pierce will be back and healthier, so the onus falls on Danny to do a better job than he did in the off-season surrounding these guys with quality complementary pieces, including one rebounder and at least one more shooter.
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I think we should worry less about the heat and worry more about the thunder. Seriously, their core guys are what? 23 and 22 year olds?

I don't really see the Heat dominate for more than 3 more years. By that time Wade will be 33 and likely looking broken down. And by the time their collective contracts expire, they'll most likely part ways.

I think Chicago will still be good, but I really don't see Rose coming back the same player after his ACL tear. If he tried to play the same way, he'll either redamage the knee or tear the other.

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  If Bradley was healthy we'd have won the series. If they can upgrade Bass's spot, a team that starts Rondo/KG/PP/Bradley/pf and brings Green/Wilcox/Pietrus/Dooling (for example) off the bench could clearly compete with the Heat next year.


tbh I'm quite surprised with Dooling this year. He may not be a great scorer or may not even score at all, but his defense is pretty good. He may sometimes be over aggressive but I like how he never gives up on defense