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Offline Moranis

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how different would this series look?
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Re: If Rivers coached the Heat and Spoelstra coached the Celtics
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I think Spoelstra is a poor coach.   He was three talents and can rarely get more than two to have a good game.   He doesn't make good adjustments or push his guys.   All you hear from Mike Breen is "Heat Small Ball'.   His bench has some pop but he rarely gets them to perform.

Doc is the better coach but even so, I think we should have tossed in Daniels last night.   He played well in Boston.   I get we won but Daniels was great on James.

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I think Spoelstra is a poor coach.   He was three talents and can rarely get more than two to have a good game.   He doesn't make good adjustments or push his guys.   All you hear from Mike Breen is "Heat Small Ball'.   His bench has some pop but he rarely gets them to perform.

Doc is the better coach but even so, I think we should have tossed in Daniels last night.   He played well in Boston.   I get we won but Daniels was great on James.
As I've said in other threads, the Heat are a deeply flawed team.  Besides coaching, the Heat don't have players that complement each other.  James and Wade both need the ball in their hands to be effective.  They don't havbe mcuh of a frontcourt, even with Bosh.  Beyond that though, THEY DON'T RUN OFFENSIVE SETS.  Spoelstra doesn't coach, he just let's them go out and play schoolyard pickup.  Oh, and their defense relies completeyl on their athleticism, the coach has nothing to do with it. 

Switch coaches and this series would have been over a long time ago. 

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I would still like Doc and hate D.WAde with a passion.

Wouldn't like it, but I'd be a Celtic fan even if we had that loser Spobot  ( god help us)

Re: If Rivers coached the Heat and Spoelstra coached the Celtics
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2012, 08:49:47 AM »

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I heard it on weei this morning apparently heat training staff told coaches bosh would be able to go 25. Spo played him 14.

Then Ray coming off injury and Doc plays him like 45 min.

Fair or no fair your best players need to be on the court if they are activated.

One if the worst excuses I've heard out of a coach ever. Game 5 at home close game in the 4th and you are thinking about what's fair for your 7 time all-star? It wasn't fair that he kept him out of the game

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I heard it on weei this morning apparently heat training staff told coaches bosh would be able to go 25. Spo played him 14.

Then Ray coming off injury and Doc plays him like 45 min.

Fair or no fair your best players need to be on the court if they are activated.

One if the worst excuses I've heard out of a coach ever. Game 5 at home close game in the 4th and you are thinking about what's fair for your 7 time all-star? It wasn't fair that he kept him out of the game
He put him into the game in the late third and the C's went on a 11-0 run (part of the overall 15-1 run).

If he thought Bosh wasn't moving well on defense as the only big man then I understand why he didn't want him in the game.

Bosh went out and the Heat went on a 16-4 run and he stay with LBJ/Haslem as his 5/4 combo the rest of the game but the C's fought back and won.

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how different would this series look?
Very different, I really think that he'd get LBJ/Wade and the rest to play together better than Spolestra does.

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I think Spoelstra is a poor coach.   He was three talents and can rarely get more than two to have a good game.   He doesn't make good adjustments or push his guys.   All you hear from Mike Breen is "Heat Small Ball'.   His bench has some pop but he rarely gets them to perform.

Doc is the better coach but even so, I think we should have tossed in Daniels last night.   He played well in Boston.   I get we won but Daniels was great on James.


I think that is really unfair.  Spoelstra is actually a very good coach.  However, chemistry and roles are an issue.  How players execute is not always the result of coaching.  I think Spoelstra has made some good adjustments throughout the playoffs.  The margin of error in this series has been so very narrow.....
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I feel like if Doc is coach of the Heat, and his players jog their way back on transition, you see Doc running up the sideline yelling at his team to RUN. If you see Wade making his team play 4v5 because he's arguing with a ref, Doc runs out on the court and clotheslines him sits him on the bench until he "gets it".

Spo makes a speech that wouldn't inspire a 3-year old, and writes gibberish on a dry erase whiteboard.

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We would have been swept. bosh would have played 40 minutes last night and probably would have killed us because he in fact was killing it during his minutes. Why would you not put your third best player/all star in during the fourth quarter and see what he could do? That was mind boggling to me, but also maybe very happy for being such a dumb move by Spols.

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Someone put this thread down before Pat Riley sees it and starts having ideas. We want Doc in Boston for a while now!

Re: If Rivers coached the Heat and Spoelstra coached the Celtics
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2012, 09:40:09 AM »

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I think Spoelstra is a poor coach.   He was three talents and can rarely get more than two to have a good game.   He doesn't make good adjustments or push his guys.   All you hear from Mike Breen is "Heat Small Ball'.   His bench has some pop but he rarely gets them to perform.

Doc is the better coach but even so, I think we should have tossed in Daniels last night.   He played well in Boston.   I get we won but Daniels was great on James.


I think that is really unfair.  Spoelstra is actually a very good coach.  However, chemistry and roles are an issue.  How players execute is not always the result of coaching.  I think Spoelstra has made some good adjustments throughout the playoffs.  The margin of error in this series has been so very narrow.....
I agree on some of those points.  Spoelstra has made some defensive adjustments, like putting LeBron (their best defender) on wherever he was needed, like on Rondo or Garnett.

I also agree Spoelstra is a good coach yeah just OK, just not a great one like Rivers.

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I think way more than Xs and Os, rotations, and strategy that the Miami Heat need a coach who commands the respect of the players.  Erik Spoelstra is not that guy.  Doc Rivers would have a very good chance of getting that team to play up to its own talent level.  If they did, they'd be scary good.

I'm glad they have coach Spoelstra and we have Coach Rivers.
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I wouldn't even want to fathom the thought