Chances of Perkins back in Green?

[LooseCannon]

The Thunder are in a salary cap position where using the amnesty clause on Perkins will not allow them to acquire new players.  The determining factor is how willing OKC ownership is to pay the luxury tax.  If luxury tax is not an issue, then it makes sense to keep Perkins around so long as he can perform at the level of a journeyman minimum-salary NBA center and hope that in the long-run you can use him as trade ballast and send out something like Eric Maynor or Reggie Jackson and a draft pick for a useful salary on a $8-10m salary.  Plus, you still have the amnesty in your back pocket in case Kevin Durant has a catastrophic injury. 

The short-term, short-sighted, reactionary, panic-mode strategy would be to amnesty a player just because he's under-performing his current contract.

Assuming that OKC won't waive Perkins just to lower its luxury tax, the logical case for amnestying Perk would be if doing so in the summer of 2013 would give Thunder the full MLE instead of the tax payer MLE and the gap in production between the player available for $5m/year instead of $3m/year is bigger than the gap between Kendrick Perkins and a player such as Mikki Moore.

From the Thunder's perspective, I'd say it would be wrong to amnesty Perkins unless he sinks to a level where it would be unwise for the Celtics to offer him more than the minimum should be become available, and even then, sometimes OKC should still keep him.

[Smokeeye123]

The Thunder are in a salary cap position where using the amnesty clause on Perkins will not allow them to acquire new players.  The determining factor is how willing OKC ownership is to pay the luxury tax.  If luxury tax is not an issue, then it makes sense to keep Perkins around so long as he can perform at the level of a journeyman minimum-salary NBA center and hope that in the long-run you can use him as trade ballast and send out something like Eric Maynor or Reggie Jackson and a draft pick for a useful salary on a $8-10m salary.  Plus, you still have the amnesty in your back pocket in case Kevin Durant has a catastrophic injury. 

The short-term, short-sighted, reactionary, panic-mode strategy would be to amnesty a player just because he's under-performing his current contract.

Assuming that OKC won't waive Perkins just to lower its luxury tax, the logical case for amnestying Perk would be if doing so in the summer of 2013 would give Thunder the full MLE instead of the tax payer MLE and the gap in production between the player available for $5m/year instead of $3m/year is bigger than the gap between Kendrick Perkins and a player such as Mikki Moore.

From the Thunder's perspective, I'd say it would be wrong to amnesty Perkins unless he sinks to a level where it would be unwise for the Celtics to offer him more than the minimum should be become available, and even then, sometimes OKC should still keep him.

Depends what we could get him for.

Rondo
Bradley
Pierce/Green
Josh Smith
Kendrick Perkins

 

[jdz101]

Why in heck would we want that stooge back?

Not to mention that horrid contract he's on.

KG is our center.

[2short]

Like Perk and his effort he puts in (glad he got the $$$ from someone other that us) but I'd rather make sure we resign Greg and put money into a pf upgrade from Bass.  Bass has done a nice job fitting into starting lineup but to me he's a good sub big and a fair starter.

[mctyson]

If Perk came back I bet KG would slide back to PF. It would be really interesting but I don't think it would happen.

It should be a main priority of the Celtics to keep Garnett as the starting 5 next year regardless of who they can aquire in free agency. He's flourished there.

Assuming he gets amnestied, I think the chances of him returning are certainly > 0%.  Of course it depends on what other teams try to get him and whether we spend our money on better players.

I could see Perkins signing a Wilcox-like $3M a year MLE.  I think that is about what he is worth at this stage of his career.  He would come here to backup KG at the 5.

[GreenFaith1819]

I'd LOVE Perk back in Green...however, like many of us have stated - I'm not sure how it'd work.

KG seems to be flourishing at Center.

Perhaps get him back as a backup? Would he even settle for that?

[CoachBo]

Chances are high that OKC amnesties him after this year.

Sam Presti is not an idiot, so I would say the chances are low.

The chances are excellent, actually. OKC will not pay the luxury tax, a fact enhanced by the financial trouble, legal and otherwise, one of the club's principals, Aubrey McClendon, is in.

They're either going to cut Perk loose or they're going to pass on Ibaka, likely. I'm pulling for the latter, as Ibaka would be a lovely player to pursue.

[action781]

bringing Perk back would be a nice pickup but it would have to be as KG's backup at center.  I'd really like to see the C's get a big-time rebounding PF to pair with KG as a bigger priority

Agreed. I'd like the Celts to make a pitch for Paul Millsap. Maybe their 2 first rounders would get it done? He's making 7.2 million next year and if you think about it, that's probably what Bass will be demanding and Millsap is far the superior player IMO. Millsaps good for 15 and 10 every night. would solve our rebounding problem and give us an offensive spark.

Wow, very very interesting idea, but I don't think it's possible considering cap restrictions.  There are 2 ways to get Milsap. One is we'd need to send $7M in salary to Utah which is only possible through sign and trade.  The only candidates for this I see would be Bass or Jeff Green.  Makes no sense for them to do it for Bass.  Green could be possible.  Utah is in a position right now where they look like they have just barely not enough money to sign him outright, so would need a S&T and I think a young Jeff Green could fit into their plans. 

Second would be to renounce all rights to our FA's first.  If we do that and acquire Milsap, then we've got only about $19M to dish out to fill our roster back up.  That could possibly be just enough for Garnett, Ray, Pietrus/Daniels, and Steimsma but it'd be close depending on how much they all want.


Fit-wise, for the celts its a no-brainer.  I think the celtics are instantly contenders again next season if we could have a roster of:

Rondo/Bradley
Bradley/Ray
Pierce/Pietrus
Milsap/Wilcox
KG/Steimsma

For Utah, they already have a crowded front-court of young players, so Milsap is expendible.  They'd get two more draft picks towards a youth movement.  It makes some sense, but could they get more for Milsap?  I'm not sure, maybe.

[RajonRondo9Dime]

bringing Perk back would be a nice pickup but it would have to be as KG's backup at center.  I'd really like to see the C's get a big-time rebounding PF to pair with KG as a bigger priority

Agreed. I'd like the Celts to make a pitch for Paul Millsap. Maybe their 2 first rounders would get it done? He's making 7.2 million next year and if you think about it, that's probably what Bass will be demanding and Millsap is far the superior player IMO. Millsaps good for 15 and 10 every night. would solve our rebounding problem and give us an offensive spark.

Wow, very very interesting idea, but I don't think it's possible considering cap restrictions.  There are 2 ways to get Milsap. One is we'd need to send $7M in salary to Utah which is only possible through sign and trade.  The only candidates for this I see would be Bass or Jeff Green.  Makes no sense for them to do it for Bass.  Green could be possible.  Utah is in a position right now where they look like they have just barely not enough money to sign him outright, so would need a S&T and I think a young Jeff Green could fit into their plans. 

Second would be to renounce all rights to our FA's first.  If we do that and acquire Milsap, then we've got only about $19M to dish out to fill our roster back up.  That could possibly be just enough for Garnett, Ray, Pietrus/Daniels, and Steimsma but it'd be close depending on how much they all want.


Fit-wise, for the celts its a no-brainer.  I think the celtics are instantly contenders again next season if we could have a roster of:

Rondo/Bradley
Bradley/Ray
Pierce/Pietrus
Milsap/Wilcox
KG/Steimsma

For Utah, they already have a crowded front-court of young players, so Milsap is expendible.  They'd get two more draft picks towards a youth movement.  It makes some sense, but could they get more for Milsap?  I'm not sure, maybe.

Awesome.. You extended the Window... 1 year, maybe?

And then we are stuck with a mediocre player in Milsap.

No thanks

[Bahku]

I'd rather see Big Al back in green ... sweeeeeeeet!

[Celtic#9]

We dodged a bullet on the Perkins contract. Let's not try to get in the line of fire again. I mean he poducing in 25 what some back ups can do in 15 minutes.

[BostonNative]

Have yall seen him play lately? He looks so winded running up in down the floor and most of the time he is walking. He would slow us down its time to wipe our hands and move foward.

[tonyto3690]

bringing Perk back would be a nice pickup but it would have to be as KG's backup at center.  I'd really like to see the C's get a big-time rebounding PF to pair with KG as a bigger priority

I'm not sure about that.  I think a bigger priority is a guy who can anchor the defense when KG is out.  That may or may not be the big man you are describing, but we can not afford to have a team that is the best in the NBA with KG on the court and the worst in the NBA when he is off it.   We've managed to get by so far, but it's just an unsustainable effort and strain put on KG.  Doc has had to work him into the ground to get this far.


As for Perkins, I feel like he is going to want too much money, for too many years for Ainge to pony up.  Ainge is doing the right thing and desperately trying to avoid the "middle good of mediocrity" ala the Hawks and Sixers.  I'd rather completely rebuild than be stuck as a bad playoff team with no hope of winning a championship.

Another thing is Perkins probably will want a starting job and I'm not sure KG should go back to the 4.

[Q_FBE]

Not if Steisma and Ryan Hollins continue to develop.