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Offline rondohondo

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I am thinking that there is a great chance of seeing Kaman in Green next year now that New Orleans has the # 1 pick and will draft Anthony Davis. That gives New Orleans a starting front line consisting of a # 1 pick and Okafor (who has a huge salary, so they have to play him).

 I don't think there's any way New Orleans is going to pay him around the 7 mil a year that the C's would be able to offer ( After signing KG for 8 mil and Green for 5 mil, hopefully Ray would come back for the vet min)

Kaman has already said that the c's would be on his list of potential teams for next season. I can't find that article at the moment ,but I believe it was posted on the front page of Celticsblog, but this one says how we would have been on his short list this year if he was bought out .


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If the Hornets can't move him via trade, you can anticipate talks about a buy-out to begin soon.

That would allow him to become a free agent and sign with any team of his choosing.
 
According to a league source, Boston would be on his short list of potential destinations.

"You look at what they need and what he brings to the game . . . it would be a great fit, it really would," the source said. "But a lot of things have to happen, and not happen, before that can come about."
http://www.necn.com/03/14/12/Source-Kaman-interested-in-joining-Celti/landing_sports.html?blockID=669798&feedID=3352



Now looking at the other teams that have money to spend, I don't see any of them offering Kaman long term contracts

Here are the teams that will have money to spend

http://passporthoops.com/2012/02/23/2012-13-nba-team-salary-cap-guide/

NJ, CLE,PHO,POR,IND and Washington will be the only teams that will have more money to spend than the c's , but with the exception of Portland they all have starting center who are as good or better than Kaman.

NJ= Lopez
Cle= Varajeo
Pho= Gortat
Ind= Hibbert

They are all also not true contenders .

I think that there is a great shot we could land Kaman next summer ! He would be a great addition as a legit big man rebounder and low post scorer. I would love to sign him for 1 or 2 years.

Add a good draft and look at how deep this team could be next year

PG: Rondo   / Vet min
SG: Bradley / Ray ( vet min) or Pietrus/ other vit min
SF: PP      / Green
PF: KG      / Bass or Draft pick( if Bass opts out)
 C: Kaman   / Wilcox

With the Rose injury the c's would be at least the 2nd best team in the East at for next season and have another shot at contending .

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I want no part of Kaman for the type of money I fear he'll demand, especially if its longer than a single year.

He's really not a low post player, shoots a lot of jumpers and would move KG back to PF.

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I want no part of Kaman for the type of money I fear he'll demand, especially if its longer than a single year.

He's really not a low post player, shoots a lot of jumpers and would move KG back to PF.

If he's gonna command 10 - 11 million then I agree. That's too much. But if this is for, say JO money, I don't mind at all. Obviously he's healthier than JO. He can rebound better and clog the lanes and bring a bit of toughness. That's pretty much all we need for him to do. But again, for mid-level money only.
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I want no part of Kaman for the type of money I fear he'll demand, especially if its longer than a single year.

He's really not a low post player, shoots a lot of jumpers and would move KG back to PF.

Kaman is actually a very good low post defender. Him alongside Garnett should be a decent defensive combo. at least he is a true center who can fill up the middle better then our small ball group. If we could get him for MLE money im all for it. however with the way centers get money im not sure we could swing that.

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Would N.O. amnesty Okafor? 

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Would N.O. amnesty Okafor? 
they would still have to pay him, no way they do that to then add more salary by signing kaman, who isn't a upgrade over okafor

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I want no part of Kaman for the type of money I fear he'll demand, especially if its longer than a single year.

He's really not a low post player, shoots a lot of jumpers and would move KG back to PF.

Kaman is actually a very good low post defender. Him alongside Garnett should be a decent defensive combo. at least he is a true center who can fill up the middle better then our small ball group. If we could get him for MLE money im all for it. however with the way centers get money im not sure we could swing that.
I was referring to his offense with my low post comment.

Defensively I worry more about him in help situations, plus I don't want KG at the 4 for more than 10 minutes a game at this point.

KG fills the middle just fine, I'd rather find a better compliment to him than Kaman is.

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Kaman has already said that the c's would be on his list of potential teams for next season. I can't find that article at the moment ,but I believe it was posted on the front page of Celticsblog, but this one says how we would have been on his short list this year if he was bought out .


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If the Hornets can't move him via trade, you can anticipate talks about a buy-out to begin soon.

That would allow him to become a free agent and sign with any team of his choosing.
 
According to a league source, Boston would be on his short list of potential destinations.

"You look at what they need and what he brings to the game . . . it would be a great fit, it really would," the source said. "But a lot of things have to happen, and not happen, before that can come about."
http://www.necn.com/03/14/12/Source-Kaman-interested-in-joining-Celti/landing_sports.html?blockID=669798&feedID=3352


The context of the potential (ultimately unrealized) buyout meant everything for this quote. Kaman was looking at a scenario where he'd have a selection of potential suitors, all of which could offer him the same (minimum) money for the last few weeks of this season. So a chance at meaningful minutes on a contending team would have put Boston high on the list.

This could well be the last contract Kaman ever signs. He's going to want as much money and years as he can get, I imagine. No one- or two-year deals. He needs a payday. I think the team that pursues but loses out on Hibbert may well make Kaman the kind of offer he's looking for.
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What good is Kaman if we don't bring the rest of the team around him, right?

And if we do bring the rest of the team back -- KG, Ray, Green, Bass -- we'll be using Bird rights, and will be over the cap. 

And if we do use Bird rights and go over the cap, we'll only have the MLE to spend, meaning that we can't outbid other teams.

And if we can't outbid other teams, no Kaman.


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I want no part of Kaman for the type of money I fear he'll demand, especially if its longer than a single year.

He's really not a low post player, shoots a lot of jumpers and would move KG back to PF.



Kaman is actually a very good low post defender. Him alongside Garnett should be a decent defensive combo. at least he is a true center who can fill up the middle better then our small ball group. If we could get him for MLE money im all for it. however with the way centers get money im not sure we could swing that.
I was referring to his offense with my low post comment.

Defensively I worry more about him in help situations, plus I don't want KG at the 4 for more than 10 minutes a game at this point.

KG fills the middle just fine, I'd rather find a better compliment to him than Kaman is.

so lets say KG plays 10-15 mins at the PF and 20-25 mins at the C next year. That still leaves Kaman 23-28 MPG playing center while KG is on the bench or playing PF, It also leaves about 25-30 mins for Bass if he comes back . The rest could be split between draft picks and Wilcox.

Plenty of playing time and lineups that would be effective together .

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I want no part of Kaman for the type of money I fear he'll demand, especially if its longer than a single year.

He's really not a low post player, shoots a lot of jumpers and would move KG back to PF.



Kaman is actually a very good low post defender. Him alongside Garnett should be a decent defensive combo. at least he is a true center who can fill up the middle better then our small ball group. If we could get him for MLE money im all for it. however with the way centers get money im not sure we could swing that.
I was referring to his offense with my low post comment.

Defensively I worry more about him in help situations, plus I don't want KG at the 4 for more than 10 minutes a game at this point.

KG fills the middle just fine, I'd rather find a better compliment to him than Kaman is.

so lets say KG plays 10-15 mins at the PF and 20-25 mins at the C next year. That still leaves Kaman 23-28 MPG playing center while KG is on the bench or playing PF, It also leaves about 25-30 mins for Bass if he comes back . The rest could be split between draft picks and Wilcox.

Plenty of playing time and lineups that would be effective together .
I'd rather have someone with some quickness and defensive talent to help KG out. (rebounding too!)

Not another slow poor team defender.

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This could well be the last contract Kaman ever signs. He's going to want as much money and years as he can get, I imagine. No one- or two-year deals. He needs a payday. I think the team that pursues but loses out on Hibbert may well make Kaman the kind of offer he's looking for.

Pretty much this.

Kaman's not worth $10m/year, but let's for a moment assume that he is, because it just makes the numbers easier.  If the Celtics were in a position to offer him a two-year, $20m contract, Kaman might prefer to go somewhere else that would give him a four-year, $32m contract ($8m/year).  Adjust that downward to whatever you think he is actually worth, but my point is that he might take a bigger, longer contract that is worth less per year than what might be offered by Danny Ainge, a guy who doesn't like to give long contracts to role players.
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Kaman looks like he's actually engaged in the game about 25% of his on-court time.

The rest of the time he's just Mark Blount with more talent.

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I want no part of Kaman for the type of money I fear he'll demand, especially if its longer than a single year.

He's really not a low post player, shoots a lot of jumpers and would move KG back to PF.



Kaman is actually a very good low post defender. Him alongside Garnett should be a decent defensive combo. at least he is a true center who can fill up the middle better then our small ball group. If we could get him for MLE money im all for it. however with the way centers get money im not sure we could swing that.
I was referring to his offense with my low post comment.

Defensively I worry more about him in help situations, plus I don't want KG at the 4 for more than 10 minutes a game at this point.

KG fills the middle just fine, I'd rather find a better compliment to him than Kaman is.

so lets say KG plays 10-15 mins at the PF and 20-25 mins at the C next year. That still leaves Kaman 23-28 MPG playing center while KG is on the bench or playing PF, It also leaves about 25-30 mins for Bass if he comes back . The rest could be split between draft picks and Wilcox.

Plenty of playing time and lineups that would be effective together .

remember if we bring Jeff Green back he also potentially eats minutes up at the PF.

He is a SF yes, but he can play PF and you can bet Doc will use him there at times
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I'd prefer a healthy Chris Wilcox.
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