playoff teams looking to trade out of 1st round

[CFAN38]

per Alex Kennedy at Hoopsworld

Teams Looking to Trade First-Round Picks: Over the next few weeks, don’t be surprised if a large number of teams outside of the lottery try to trade their first-round pick.

Multiple sources have told HOOPSWORLD that a lot of teams are trying to get rid their pick, which could make for an interesting draft night.

“Almost everyone wants to get out of their pick in this draft,” said one Western Conference executive. “For some teams, it’s hard to take on money for multiple years in this economic climate, especially if the player would not make an impact and help the team win immediately.”

That means contending teams like the Oklahoma City Thunder or Chicago Bulls may opt to trade their late first-round pick rather than draft a rookie who won’t really contribute (just like Reggie Jackson and Jimmy Butler this season). Expect plenty of trade rumors over the next several weeks.

[CFAN38]

With the Cs obviously looking to the future I am confident the Cs are not in this trade out situation.

This does create a nice opportunity for Ainge to work with. With so much money coming off the books this off season ownership is going to be in a position to save money on salaries cap penalties for 2012-2013 (even if everyone is resigned KG and Ray deal will not be as big as this years).

These savings should make them much more willing to pay for a late 1st round pick from a team like Miami, OKC, or Chicago. I do not expect the Cs to draft 3 1st round picks but I could see them using 21-22 to move up to maybe 15-18 and then purchase maybe the 29th from chicago.

The huge numbers and range of player the Cs are working out leads me to believe that they at least are looking at the possibility of drafting later in the first or earlier in the second.

[clover]

Yes, it is fortunate that Danny doesn't have salary cap issues in the year of a pretty good draft.

I take the reports are correct that Danny is looking to move up.

I don't see Chicago selling a 1st rounder to him, however--though maybe he can buy something from a smaller-market team and deal up from there?--and I hope the push to bail out doesn't depress for price for the two 1sts he presently has.

[arambone]

"and I hope the push to bail out doesn't depress for price for the two 1sts he presently has."

I hope it does and Danny is discouraged from trading the picks.

I remember the Suns traded us Rondo for a ham sandwich.

[CFAN38]

"and I hope the push to bail out doesn't depress for price for the two 1sts he presently has."

I hope it does and Danny is discouraged from trading the picks.

I remember the Suns traded us Rondo for a ham sandwich.

I think what he means is he doesn't want the Celtics to lose the ability to trade up in the draft because the pics lose value do to teams in the 20s trying to trade out.

[csfansince60s]

Indiana, Memphis and OKC, I think are good potential "sellers" late in the first.

All three are relatively small markets who either are or will be having to pay to keep their stars.

I'm not sure that I completely buy this notion, though, of teams dumping picks. They could just draft Euros who they can stash overseas, or pick assets that may duplicate someone that they already have which makes that player who is being duplicated a trade asset.

[Fafnir]

Could make it rather hard for the C's to move up much if there are a lot of lower first round picks that are available from other teams.

[clover]

Indiana, Memphis and OKC, I think are good potential "sellers" late in the first.

All three are relatively small markets who either are or will be having to pay to keep their stars.

I'm not sure that I completely buy this notion, though, of teams dumping picks. They could just draft Euros who they can stash overseas, or pick assets that may duplicate someone that they already have which makes that player who is being duplicated a trade asset.

I think Fournier may be about the only Euro projected for the latter first round.

[csfansince60s]

Indiana, Memphis and OKC, I think are good potential "sellers" late in the first.

All three are relatively small markets who either are or will be having to pay to keep their stars.

I'm not sure that I completely buy this notion, though, of teams dumping picks. They could just draft Euros who they can stash overseas, or pick assets that may duplicate someone that they already have which makes that player who is being duplicated a trade asset.

I think Fournier may be about the only Euro projected for the latter first round.

I agree. I could easily see Chicago or OKC taking him, though.

The only other Euro that had been (he's been dropping lately) projected as a late 1st rounder was Satoransky. His potential and skillset maybe worth taking a shot on and stashing.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/tomas-satoransky

[Lucky17]

per Alex Kennedy at Hoopsworld

“Almost everyone wants to get out of their pick in this draft,” said one Western Conference executive. “For some teams, it’s hard to take on money for multiple years in this economic climate, especially if the player would not make an impact and help the team win immediately.”

I don't understand the logic behind that statement.

Under the new CBA, rookie contracts are even more desirable for economically-minded teams trying to fill out a roster.

I understand that a tax-paying contender with little roster flexibility might want to sell off a 1st rounder for future considerations, payroll reduction, or cash.

But "almost everyone?" That just doesn't track to me. Especially not in this year's deep draft.

[clover]

per Alex Kennedy at Hoopsworld

“Almost everyone wants to get out of their pick in this draft,” said one Western Conference executive. “For some teams, it’s hard to take on money for multiple years in this economic climate, especially if the player would not make an impact and help the team win immediately.”

I don't understand the logic behind that statement.

Under the new CBA, rookie contracts are even more desirable for economically-minded teams trying to fill out a roster.

I understand that a tax-paying contender with little roster flexibility might want to sell off a 1st rounder for future considerations, payroll reduction, or cash.

But "almost everyone?" That just doesn't track to me. Especially not in this year's deep draft.

Maybe the description comes from a prospective buyer hoping to bid down the price?

OTOH, 3J was a senior taken in last year's first round who hasn't dressed for the playoffs.  It can be something of an expensive gamble.

[Lucky17]

per Alex Kennedy at Hoopsworld

“Almost everyone wants to get out of their pick in this draft,” said one Western Conference executive. “For some teams, it’s hard to take on money for multiple years in this economic climate, especially if the player would not make an impact and help the team win immediately.”

I don't understand the logic behind that statement.

Under the new CBA, rookie contracts are even more desirable for economically-minded teams trying to fill out a roster.

I understand that a tax-paying contender with little roster flexibility might want to sell off a 1st rounder for future considerations, payroll reduction, or cash.

But "almost everyone?" That just doesn't track to me. Especially not in this year's deep draft.

Maybe the description comes from a prospective buyer hoping to bid down the price?

OTOH, 3J was a senior taken in last year's first round who hasn't dressed for the playoffs.  It can be something of an expensive gamble.

Yeah, if anything, I think it's an attempt at gamesmanship.

JJJ is on the books this year and next year for just over $1 million, and team options in 2013/14 and 2014/15 for about $1.1 mil and $2 mil, respectively. A total of 4 years, $5.3 million.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/celtics.jsp

Considering the player taken this year in JJJ's draft slot should be at least as good a prospect, any team unwilling to make a $5 million dollar investment over four years in a potential rotation player is probably owned/run by Scrooge McDuck. Or Robert Sarver.

[csfansince60s]

per Alex Kennedy at Hoopsworld

“Almost everyone wants to get out of their pick in this draft,” said one Western Conference executive. “For some teams, it’s hard to take on money for multiple years in this economic climate, especially if the player would not make an impact and help the team win immediately.”

I don't understand the logic behind that statement.

Under the new CBA, rookie contracts are even more desirable for economically-minded teams trying to fill out a roster.

I understand that a tax-paying contender with little roster flexibility might want to sell off a 1st rounder for future considerations, payroll reduction, or cash.

But "almost everyone?" That just doesn't track to me. Especially not in this year's deep draft.

Maybe the description comes from a prospective buyer hoping to bid down the price?

OTOH, 3J was a senior taken in last year's first round who hasn't dressed for the playoffs.  It can be something of an expensive gamble.

Good point about the prospective buyer possibility (Danny?, hopefully).


Also, JJJ (and I am a fan/supporter of him) would be a 2nd round pick in this years draft. So it's not as much of a gamble this year for late first picks viability as players like Draymond Green are projected as very late first/early second, and he would've been selected before JJJ last year.

[jaketwice]

So - obviously it would make sense for the Celtics - but would it make sense for the Bobcats to TRADE the number 2 pick for more help later on in the draft? They suck at every position, except, arguably, Bismack Biyombo [sic].

What if we could somehow acquire one of these late round picks - allowing us to trade THREE draft picks to Charlotte for, say Thomas Robinson (I think we need a big).

...or if not Charlotte, what about the Nets? What about Cleveland? All three of those teams basically need ...everything. Wouldn't the opportunity to build a core be worth missing out on a player who, although probably a sure 10/10 guy, would never be a star?

I say this because, according to what I have been reading, 2013 is historically WEAK. ...so if those teams don't get some players in this draft, there is not much to "tank" for in 2013.

[Lucky17]

I don't think Charlotte would, or should, trade the #2 for a selection of late 1st round picks.

If they do move the pick, they need either a legit starter in return, or a pick in the top 8 plus another 1st.

That roster is pretty thin on talent. Best to add a blue chipper to that group than a couple of reds.