2012 CB Historical Draft Board (New News, Check It Out)

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Round 4: June 1st

   Rd   Pk   Ovr#   Time      Team (GM)              
   4.      1      (49)      1:30 PM      Heat (RebusRankin) Tim Hardaway      
   4.      2      (50)      1:45 PM      Jazz (bdm860)   Arvydas Sabonis  
   4.      3      (51)      2:00 PM   Nuggets KnicksBrandon Roy           
   4.      4      (52)      2:15 PM   Spurs Clippers
   4.      5      (53)      2:30 PM      Magic (syfy9)      
   4.      6      (54)      2:45 PM      Thunder (Kane3387)      
   4.      7      (55)      3:00 PM      Bulls (33-00-32)      
   4.      8      (56)      3:15 PM      Celtics (KCattheStripe)      
   4.      9      (57)      3:30 PM   Clippers Spurs
   4.      10      (58)      3:45 PM      Mavericks (Moranis)      
   4.      11      (59)      4:00 PM      Hawks (wdleehi)      
   4.      12      (60)      4:15 PM      Grizzlies (Dons)      
   4.      13      (61)      4:30 PM      Pacers (Celtic Fan Forever)      
   4.      14      (62)      4:45 PM      Knicks (Rondo2287)      
   4.      15      (63)      5:00 PM      Lakers (GreenFaith1819)      
   4.      16      (64)      5:15 PM      Sixers (Who)      

Since we only have to pick one year im very happy to welcome Brandon Roy to the squad


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[indeedproceed]

Well, Bahku didn't leave a list, so we're all gonna have to chill for a bit. Smoke em if ya got em.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Well, Bahku didn't leave a list, so we're all gonna have to chill for a bit. Smoke em if ya got em.

Can I watch some TV, mister? 

[indeedproceed]

Well, Bahku didn't leave a list, so we're all gonna have to chill for a bit. Smoke em if ya got em.

Can I watch some TV, mister? 

You can watch all the tv, pal. You're on a 72 hour hiatus.

[Donoghus]

Ugh...  This is a buzzkill.

[wdleehi]

So much for the chance I could get my pick in early before I had to leave.

[Rondo2287]

Well you will all want to be hanging around when i make my next pick.  Im pretty sure he will be there and if he is... Steal of the draft.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

So much for the chance I could get my pick in early before I had to leave.

I can make the pick for you. I'll still be awake for, about 4 more hours. If you want.

[wdleehi]

So much for the chance I could get my pick in early before I had to leave.

I can make the pick for you. I'll still be awake for, about 4 more hours. If you want.

I will be leaving a list, likely with the GM who picks right after me.

[Who]

I certainly thought about Sabonis, and wouldn't have minded him, but this seems a couple of rounds too early for him given the injuries and that he couldn't play anywhere near a full game (or the modern version).  He was essentially a half of the game player, which makes the 4th round seem way to high for him.

I had Sabonis as a mid to late fourth rounder. Maybe early to mid fifth if he slips.

I thought he was best available (big bodied) center. Only one other smaller center I might take ahead of him. So I think he is fine value here. 

I love Sabas' highly skilled offensive game in this CB Historical League. I think he'll do a wonderful job orchestrating an offense from the low post, elbows and high post areas with his passing, post moves and jump-shooting. Very strong rebounder also. His size too at 7-3, 280lbs, will be useful in matching up against some of the bigger centers here in this league.

The minutes thing is a concern but Sabonis played 32mpg one year and averaged 16/10 (3 assists, a block, 58% TS%) and generally played around 30mpg in the playoffs. You can get around 27-30mpg out of him easily enough.

[Who]

I really like Brandon Roy. He was a guy I was looking at with my late second early third round picks in the early stages of the draft ... until a few players I hadn't expected to be available ended up there. I thought Roy would have worked well with Shaq in a two guard backcourt. Anyway, very nice pickup. Will work very well with Tim Duncan.

I was hoping Tim Hardaway would have ended on that C-Webb, Marion and Ginobili team. Run'n'gun. A Nellie-ball remix.

What team did he end up on? Miami. That's the Durant-Alonzo team. McDyess, that was the other guy. Interesting mix of talent there. Durant elite scoring. Alonzo paint guy. Hardaway lead guard and dribble penetration. Dice a glue guy. I like that four-man team. Nice mix of skill-sets.

[Kane3387]

I really like Brandon Roy. He was a guy I was looking at with my late second early third round picks in the early stages of the draft ... until a few players I hadn't expected to be available ended up there. I thought Roy would have worked well with Shaq in a two guard backcourt. Anyway, very nice pickup. Will work very well with Tim Duncan.

I was hoping Tim Hardaway would have ended on that C-Webb, Marion and Ginobili team. Run'n'gun. A Nellie-ball remix.

What team did he end up on? Miami. That's the Durant-Alonzo team. McDyess, that was the other guy. Interesting mix of talent there. Durant elite scoring. Alonzo paint guy. Hardaway lead guard and dribble penetration. Dice a glue guy. I like that four-man team. Nice mix of skill-sets.

Timmy and Zo already have the chemistry down. Hardaway is a really good value in the fourth round.

[bdm860]

I certainly thought about Sabonis, and wouldn't have minded him, but this seems a couple of rounds too early for him given the injuries and that he couldn't play anywhere near a full game (or the modern version).  He was essentially a half of the game player, which makes the 4th round seem way to high for him.

I had Sabonis as a mid to late fourth rounder. Maybe early to mid fifth if he slips.

I thought he was best available (big bodied) center. Only one other smaller center I might take ahead of him. So I think he is fine value here. 

I love Sabas' highly skilled offensive game in this CB Historical League. I think he'll do a wonderful job orchestrating an offense from the low post, elbows and high post areas with his passing, post moves and jump-shooting. Very strong rebounder also. His size too at 7-3, 280lbs, will be useful in matching up against some of the bigger centers here in this league.

The minutes thing is a concern but Sabonis played 32mpg one year and averaged 16/10 (3 assists, a block, 58% TS%) and generally played around 30mpg in the playoffs. You can get around 27-30mpg out of him easily enough.

Especially with these suped up teams we all have.  It's not like I'll have Stiemer and Hollins coming off the bench to back him up.

But to stick with the half a game argument, would you rather have half a game out of a complete player with a unique skill set lacking from many others at his position (passing, shooting, ball handling) that can play on both sides of the ball, or a full game (or I guess 75-80% of a game if they play 35-40mpg) from more limited players like Chandler, Rodman, Mutombo, or Ben Wallace?  The dominate bigs already taken (Shaq, Robinson, Ewing, etc.) aren't going to have it easy against him, they'll actually have to guard him.  I mean he shot 38% from 3 one year (and 37% two others).  He’s just such a unique, skillful center, he’s a matchup nightmare.  A big reason why those Portland teams were so good without a superstar. I really think he’s a gem. 

And hey, now I have 2 HOFers on my team 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO3IundC-e4

[KCattheStripe]

BAHHHHHKUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

[RebusRankin]

Roy was one of my shooting guard targets. Richmond too. Only 5 or six left.

Who thanks for the kind words.