Rondo is ruining it for the Celtics

[celtics2]

Rondo isn't a superstar.  The sooner everyone accepts that fact the sooner we can stop blaming him for all our problems.  He's a great player and key part of this team... but he's not even the best guy on the Celtics (that would be KG).  He's arguably not even the 2nd best guy on the Celtics (that would be Pierce). 

Bigger issue than Rondo's inconsistent play (he is who he is) is the fact Pierce is less than 100%.  Pierce is the only guy on our team who can score consistently and create his own shot.  When he goes 5-18... you're gonna have a bad time.  KG is doing his best picking up the slack and has been a nightly beast carrying us on his back with 20/10... but it's not enough.

Well put. Put Rondo on a mediocre Team and watch his asset value go down. He is not putting in the energy needed to breakdown the Defenses. I think he does Dog it but 44 minutes is a lot. Besides most Defenses are aware of his act now. Hitting shots is the only thing now to move him upward.

[mctyson]

I would start with Paul Pierce if anything....

How people blame Rondo for last night's offense and not the man singularly responsible for allowing the Heat to break away from us (forced drive, blocked, forced drive, running fadeaway doesn't hit rim, lazy pass into Battier's hand, easy bucket...12 point Miami lead), all while shooting 5-16 from the floor with no free throw attempts, is beyond me.

[soap07]

He's a good player - who is sometimes great. You cannot expect greatness from him other than in short bursts in the way you do a Paul or Deron. When you accept that, you can appreciate the skills he does bring to the table.

[CelticsFanNC]

  With Paul Pierce and Ray Allen banged up this team is going to struggle to score.  Get used to it.  

  This team was built to have HOFers Ray Allen and Paul Pierce as it's primary scorers.  When they aren't getting the job done we struggle to score with any consistency.

  Rondo is a pass first PG so he relies on guys getting open and hitting shots for him to be effective in the half court.  We cannot run because we lost all of our young legs with the exception of Rondo so we are not in a position to allow Rondo to thrive like he was doing the entire second half of the season.

  Put yourself in Rondo's shoes.  Ray isn't hitting shots, Paul isn't playing at his normal level either. Pietrus isn't hitting shots. Bass is up and down like a yo-yo.  His only consistent scoring option is KG and opposing teams know it.

  Sometimes you just lose to a team that played better then you did and no one is to blame for it.  Blaming Rondo for that loss last night is ridiculous.  I wouldn't even blame Paul Pierce although his man did light him up and he brought almost nothing to the table on offense.

[Celtics4ever]

Rondo can take the shots for them.  I thought we got the looks which is his job to get for us.

[scaryjerry]

hahahhhahahahahahahahahahaha go root for the thunder

or your precious chris paul poster you sit in front of while desperately await any stretch of bad play from rondo you can complain about

if we had chris paul we would have been typical 2nd round fodder, which is as far as "cp3" will ever go, because an injury prone prima donna who quit on the hornets
good bye

[CelticsFanNC]

   Ray Allen and Paul Pierce went 6 for 25 from the floor but it's Rondo's fault we lost?  

  Ray Allen and Paul Pierce got outscored by their counterparts Wade and LBJ by a whopping 54 to 18 margin but it's Rondo's fault we lost??

  We got out rebounded 48 to 35, with Rondo and KG accounting for 19 of our boards but it's Rondo's fault we lost?

  Come on now.  We are more knowledgeable as a fan base then this crap.  Aren't we??

[Rondo2287]

This was a team effort of suck.  KG and Dooling played well but that was about it last night. 

[scaryjerry]

   Ray Allen and Paul Pierce went 6 for 25 from the floor but it's Rondo's fault we lost? 

  Ray Allen and Paul Pierce got outscored by their counterparts Wade and LBJ by a whopping 54 to 18 margin but it's Rondo's fault we lost??

  We went 11-21 from the FT line but Rondo is at fault even though he didn't miss a single ft.

  We got out rebounded 48 to 35, with Rondo and KG accounting for 19 of our boards but it's Rondo's fault we lost?

  Come on now.  We are more knowledgeable as a fan base then this crap.  Aren't we??

Hes in love with chris paul and everytime rondo makes a mistake...he will let you hear about it as if the great chris paul has NEVER made a mistake.
more like never been out of the 2nd round
(cue the bad teammate cry which is an epic lie, chris paul is a quitter)

[CelticsFanNC]

  Ray Allen and Paul Pierce went 6 for 25 from the floor but it's Rondo's fault we lost?  

  Ray Allen and Paul Pierce got outscored by their counterparts Wade and LBJ by a whopping 54 to 18 margin but it's Rondo's fault we lost??

  We went 11-21 from the FT line but Rondo is at fault even though he didn't miss a single ft.

  We got out rebounded 48 to 35, with Rondo and KG accounting for 19 of our boards but it's Rondo's fault we lost?

  Come on now.  We are more knowledgeable as a fan base then this crap.  Aren't we??

Hes in love with chris paul and everytime rondo makes a mistake...he will let you hear about it as if the great chris paul has NEVER made a mistake.
more like never been out of the 2nd round
(cue the bad teammate cry which is an epic lie, chris paul is a quitter)

  Ya and others around here refuse to blame any of the sacred cows regardless how how poorly they played.  

  Pierce and Ray stunk last night.  

[scaryjerry]

so the celtics have never had a star/superstar?
according to people in here you have to play great every second...which no player in the history of the nba has done or for rondo to be great he has to be more like chris paul! the fraud quitter who cant get out of the 2nd round and quits on his team annualy, yay!

Rondos a star, hes being treated and gameplanned for like a star
tissue?
hopefully he will get as far as deron williams and chris paul, 2 players that are perfect all the time and thats why they will be matching up in the finals
oh...wait

[Celtics18]

Rondo isn't a superstar.  The sooner everyone accepts that fact the sooner we can stop blaming him for all our problems.  He's a great player and key part of this team... but he's not even the best guy on the Celtics (that would be KG).  He's arguably not even the 2nd best guy on the Celtics (that would be Pierce). 

Bigger issue than Rondo's inconsistent play (he is who he is) is the fact Pierce is less than 100%.  Pierce is the only guy on our team who can score consistently and create his own shot.  When he goes 5-18... you're gonna have a bad time.  KG is doing his best picking up the slack and has been a nightly beast carrying us on his back with 20/10... but it's not enough.

It's becoming harder and harder for you to convince anybody that Rondo's not a superstar.  I don't know how you define superstar, but by my definition he unquestionably fits the bill. 

He can be the best player on the floor at any time against any team.  To me, that makes him a superstar.

[BballTim]

Rondo has not become a complete headcase, and hasn't been dogging it all year.

Mercurial is the very best word I think one could use to describe the man. That's who he is, as much as he's the guy who will pass everyone but magic Johnson on the mark for triple doubles during the playoffs.

True, and its so funny how alot of fans would defend Rondo to the ends of the earth. Pierce and Ray could make the SAME number of turnovers and be non-aggressive and they would get blasted on the boards and be blamed for losing the game for the Celtics

  Go find all the threads throughout the playoffs that people started to blast Paul or KG or Ray for turning the ball over and not being aggressive enough.

[pearljammer10]

I would call this thread dumb but would probably get a warning for it so I wont do that. Rondo was hardly the cause of are problems last night.

 If you still think otherwise, you try being guarded by Lebron James in the second half and see how well that goes for you.

[OsirusCeltics]

Yup like I imagined how the thread would protect Rondo to the ends of the earth

When Pierce or Ray does bad, they get all the blame for the loss

When Rondo does bad its "Um well, the Miami defense changed up on him. Players weren't getting open"

In case you didn't know, Pierce is playing off of Rondo. The offense runs through Rondo as everyone can agree. So when Rondo doesn't get his other teammates involved by dribbling for a majority of the shot clock, it stagnates the offense
People bring up 5-18 for Pierce. Some of it was his fault obviously, but when you have a point guard that gives it to you at the end of the shot clock, its going to be a low percentage shot for Pierce. Look at the initial reaction instead of the end result (a missed shot or stats)

Alot of fans say Rondo is the best player on the Celtics, and the main reason of how the offense is run. So when he puts his teammates in bad positions with his turnovers, non-aggressiveness, and stagnating the offense with constant dribbling, its his teammates fault. You can't have it both ways