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Words of wisdom from Mike Tomlin'
« on: May 04, 2012, 11:53:19 PM »

Offline Dybdal

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Hey everyone!

Just finished watching the game and taking in all the things said/writen on the site and something struck me when i saw the headline on Celticsblog "An Ugly, Confusing, and Ultimately Satisfying Win" and alot of the spur of the moment comments being written in the game thread. After taking it all in and chewing on it, this dawned on me.

Mike Tomlin, coach of the Steelers said this after a come from behind victory over the Dallas Cowboys back in their last championship year (game was alot like the game the Celtics played tonight)

"Man.. What a beautiful game, i mean that, i just told the team that.. you know, people get to pre-ocupied with style points, that was a beautiful football game, its december.. we will take the W"

Asked about it, in the Steelers "America's Game" interview he said:

"Who cares how we win?, Who cares under what circumstances, Who cares who delivers the plays? As long as we have 1 more point, i dont care and i want to create an enviroment where its ok for everybody to feel that way"


That is how i felt after the game and i hope i can make others feel the same with this little thingy, we were not allways pretty winning in our championship years but winning makes it all go away and we won today.

Its late April, early May.. and i'll take the W and be happy about it.
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Re: Words of wisdom from Mike Tomlin'
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2012, 11:58:17 PM »

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Hey everyone!

Just finished watching the game and taking in all the things said/writen on the site and something struck me when i saw the headline on Celticsblog "An Ugly, Confusing, and Ultimately Satisfying Win" and alot of the spur of the moment comments being written in the game thread. After taking it all in and chewing on it, this dawned on me.

Mike Tomlin, coach of the Steelers said this after a come from behind victory over the Dallas Cowboys back in their last championship year (game was alot like the game the Celtics played tonight)

"Man.. What a beautiful game, i mean that, i just told the team that.. you know, people get to pre-ocupied with style points, that was a beautiful football game, its december.. we will take the W"

Asked about it, in the Steelers "America's Game" interview he said:

"Who cares how we win?, Who cares under what circumstances, Who cares who delivers the plays? As long as we have 1 more point, i dont care and i want to create an enviroment where its ok for everybody to feel that way"


That is how i felt after the game and i hope i can make others feel the same with this little thingy, we were not allways pretty winning in our championship years but winning makes it all go away and we won today.

Its late April, early May.. and i'll take the W and be happy about it.
absolutely

This was a huge win any way you slice it.  2-1 or 1-2...which do you like better? 

Take the win and hope we play better next time.
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Re: Words of wisdom from Mike Tomlin'
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 01:35:24 AM »

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Thanks for starting this thread. I've been hashing over things as well, and I wonder if something's wrong with me or my thinking, because this is how I've been looking at Game 3: of course I'm glad they got the win--much rather be up 2-1 than down 1-2--but that was an ugly performance, and didn't inspire confidence in me that they can go far.

I'm trying so hard to be positive, but these guys have a habit of making things hard on themselves and their fans. Boston had just stolen one from the Hawks in Atlanta, seizing home-court advantage and heading home, giving the Cs the momentum, and the Hawks were without three crucial players in Game 3 ... and Boston had to go to OT for the win?

Outside of a few notable exceptions (such as Pierce in Game 3), these guys have put up some awful shooting performances lately, particularly Pierce, KG, Rondo, MP, and Bass. Late in the fourth quarter of Game 3 we were treated to "bad Paul," the guy who reminds me of Antoine and makes me forget just how good Pierce can be: going up in the air with no shot and no one to pass to and consequently turning the ball over, a dumb push-off for an offensive foul, nearly losing the ball while trying to force his way through double teams. Blowing an 8-point lead in about a minute near the end of the game has me thinking of Phil Jackson during the 2010 Finals: "These guys are the worst fourth-quarter team in the league!" And we again had the honor of watching Boston play good D for a full 24 seconds only to have it all go for naught because the Cs can't grab a dang rebound.

Their play improved in OT, though I can't for the life of me figure out why Rondo misses so many layups, and why he insists on shooting so many one-handed shots. I guess it just seems to me like there's always an excuse with these guys: one day off between games isn't enough rest, but two days off is too much rest; injuries are a legitimate obstacle, but in Game 3 we had a full roster and the Hawks were sorely hurting. Yeah, they play great when their backs are against the wall, but why do they so often put themselves in that position? If they'd shown up for Game 1 like they should've, they could be finishing a sweep tomorrow and getting plenty of time to rest and practice before the second round.

I like this team, I really do. I want to enjoy them, I want to have fun watching them, but I usually have to turn off the TV--or never turn it on in the first place--because they send my blood pressure through the roof. I don't expect perfection, but oftentimes these guys play like it's the start of the preseason. How can so many guys shoot so badly at the same time? How can they let Erick Dampier (!) score six points? How can they let Jason Collins school them on consecutive possessions early in the game? How come they can't hold a lead? How come they can't step on the opponent's throat when they have the chance? Yes, they have a defense that's generally very good, but I get the feeling that they think they need to score only 70 points a game.

Yes, Mike Tomlin is right in that a win's a win, but football, I feel, is different: you can have a low-scoring football game--say, 17-14--but still have it contain a fair share of exciting plays (sacks, interceptions, great tackles, fine feats of athleticism), but a low-scoring basketball game is almost never exciting outside of the last minute, because even though it might feature some good defense and a few exciting plays, it probably also features some wretched shooting, lots of turnovers, and generally poor execution. Game 3 was certainly not an example of great D by both teams; it was a case of two teams that, for the most part, couldn't hit water falling out of a boat.
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Re: Words of wisdom from Mike Tomlin'
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 01:53:48 AM »

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Ugly win for sure, and while this game didn't inspire confidence, many games they played late in the season did, and I know when they play their best they can beat anyone, despite these gaggers every-so-often.

We had some ugly games in the 2007-2008 playoffs as well, and sometimes it's more of a positive sign when a team can dig out an ugly win than it is when they just breeze through it, because mistakes and fatigue are hard things to overcome.

A win is a win, that's really all that matters, and I feel more confident now knowing they can pull out a victory even when they're playing amidst such a lackluster performance.

It's much easier to put together a "w" when all cylinders are clicking, and much more difficult to do so when things aren't going your way ... I think the latter shows more character and perseverance.

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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 02:26:02 AM »

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Ugly win for sure, and while this game didn't inspire confidence, many games they played late in the season did, and I know when they play their best they can beat anyone, despite these gaggers every-so-often.

We had some ugly games in the 2007-2008 playoffs as well, and sometimes it's more of a positive sign when a team can dig out an ugly win than it is when they just breeze through it, because mistakes and fatigue are hard things to overcome.

A win is a win, that's really all that matters, and I feel more confident now knowing they can pull out a victory even when they're playing amidst such a lackluster performance.

It's much easier to put together a "w" when all cylinders are clicking, and much more difficult to do so when things aren't going your way ... I think the latter shows more character and perseverance.



To be honest the times we've played the hawks this year have all been pretty ugly games to watch...ultimately very satisfying to get wins in the end but fairly horrid basketball overall.


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Re: Words of wisdom from Mike Tomlin'
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2012, 11:54:22 PM »

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Its funny how this thread is still relevant now a few weeks later and i do firmly believe the team is together in beliving the same, this isnt a run to the finals to cement a legacy, this isnt a crusade for rondo to get recognized by his peers, this is about one of the very few teams in recent NBA history thats playing this game with the mindset of a "team" out batteling the one team personifying the opposit of a team concept, the very "me" driven Miami Heat

Game 5 was again very "un-pretty" in most eyes but [dang it] if i dont disagree, they battled hard on that court.. showed true heart out there continuing to battle from behind (more times than most hearts can bear) to forcefully take this game away from the Miami Heat.

So i started the thread with a NFL qoute, guess i'll end this reply with another one aswell, ladies and gentlemen i present to you the late, great Al Davis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fy8t3HYZp4
"Leadership is diving for a loose ball, getting the crowd involved, getting other players involved. It`s being able to take it as well as dish it out. That`s the only way you`re going to get respect from the players"

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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2012, 04:21:49 AM »

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Thanks for sharing.