Avery Bradley: Is his upside Monta Ellis who can Bigtime D?

[Fafnir]

Id say it was pretty stellar in game 2.

You would be wrong then, Teague had 18 Points and he is not a superstar.   Sure his shooting % was low but I have faith Bradley can do better on him.

Teague took 20 shots, so the fact that he scored 18 points isn't all that disturbing.

The first half defense was bothersome because that's where he did the majority of his damage, but he shut him down in the second half.

[colincb]

Well he's not a complete idiot I guess, but I'm not a fan of his BS stats.  Nonetheless, he's on board with the Lindsey Hunter defensive comparison.  From today's chat on ESPN:

Q: Your thoughts on Avery Bradley?

John Hollinger (12:45 PM)

Best at pressuring the ball since Lindsey Hunter, and possibly better. One area Teague has been hugely valuable is that Bradley's pressure hasn't effected him; I've seen other guards be unable to cross halfcourt against Bradley. He's still very young and his shot is coming around; I don't think he'll ever be a natural at the point but his defensive value is so huge that he can play the 2 with Rondo.

[LooseCannon]

Hollinger very obviously watches the games.  He openly admits that his stats undervalue defensive specialists, which is probably due mainly to a lack of easily available individual defensive stats.  Bradley seems like the sort of player who Hollinger thinks gets underrated by PER.

[shiggins]

Id say it was pretty stellar in game 2.

You would be wrong then, Teague had 18 Points and he is not a superstar.   Sure his shooting % was low but I have faith Bradley can do better on him.

Teague took 20 shots, so the fact that he scored 18 points isn't all that disturbing.

The first half defense was bothersome because that's where he did the majority of his damage, but he shut him down in the second half.

Teague also missed a bunch of layups which were entirely makeable.  I love Avery, but he wasnt good defensively on Tuesday.  Teague was getting in the lane at will and was also left wide open a few times.  It was more about Teague missing a few shots he was making the in the first half as opposed to Avery's D. 

Teague just stopped making shots in the 2nd.

*edit - I'd also like to say I was definitely impressed by Teague.  Overall he had a very good game against a very good defender.  He converts a few more of those shots and we are having an entirely different conversation.

[Fafnir]

Id say it was pretty stellar in game 2.

You would be wrong then, Teague had 18 Points and he is not a superstar.   Sure his shooting % was low but I have faith Bradley can do better on him.

Teague took 20 shots, so the fact that he scored 18 points isn't all that disturbing.

The first half defense was bothersome because that's where he did the majority of his damage, but he shut him down in the second half.

Teague also missed a bunch of layups which were entirely makeable.  I love Avery, but he wasnt good defensively on Tuesday.  Teague was getting in the lane at will and was also left wide open a few times.  It was more about Teague missing a few shots he was making the in the first half as opposed to Avery's D. 

I disagree, Teague was driving the lane out of control into help, instead of getting to the rim he was forced into ackward shots that are tough ones. He also wasn't able to get open jump shots in the second half.

[lightspeed5]

exactly, pros dont miss make-able layups, especially in a playoff game. he missed because of help defense and pressure from avery

[IanMello]

Id say it was pretty stellar in game 2.

You would be wrong then, Teague had 18 Points and he is not a superstar.   Sure his shooting % was low but I have faith Bradley can do better on him.

Teague took 20 shots, so the fact that he scored 18 points isn't all that disturbing.

The first half defense was bothersome because that's where he did the majority of his damage, but he shut him down in the second half.

Teague also missed a bunch of layups which were entirely makeable.  I love Avery, but he wasnt good defensively on Tuesday.  Teague was getting in the lane at will and was also left wide open a few times.  It was more about Teague missing a few shots he was making the in the first half as opposed to Avery's D. 

Teague just stopped making shots in the 2nd.

*edit - I'd also like to say I was definitely impressed by Teague.  Overall he had a very good game against a very good defender.  He converts a few more of those shots and we are having an entirely different conversation.

Anyone who thinks Bradley had a poor defensive game needs to go back and watch the tape. Teague got the majority of his points when Dooling was subbed in for 1 and for 2 at least a couple of his baskets when Bradley were in the game came on TERRIBLE pick and roll coverage by Brandon Bass. When Bradley was locked in 1v1 with Teague he pretty much shut him down and had a couple of plays where he either blocked the shot or caused Teague to miss.

[Fafnir]

Id say it was pretty stellar in game 2.

You would be wrong then, Teague had 18 Points and he is not a superstar.   Sure his shooting % was low but I have faith Bradley can do better on him.

Teague took 20 shots, so the fact that he scored 18 points isn't all that disturbing.

The first half defense was bothersome because that's where he did the majority of his damage, but he shut him down in the second half.

Teague also missed a bunch of layups which were entirely makeable.  I love Avery, but he wasnt good defensively on Tuesday.  Teague was getting in the lane at will and was also left wide open a few times.  It was more about Teague missing a few shots he was making the in the first half as opposed to Avery's D.  

Teague just stopped making shots in the 2nd.

*edit - I'd also like to say I was definitely impressed by Teague.  Overall he had a very good game against a very good defender.  He converts a few more of those shots and we are having an entirely different conversation.

Anyone who thinks Bradley had a poor defensive game needs to go back and watch the tape. Teague got the majority of his points when Dooling was subbed in for 1

Teague's eyes seemed to light up when Dooling was in the game and Avery wasn't.

3 of his 6 makes and two of his free throws came when Avery was on the bench, this is even with both of them playing 42 minutes in the game.

So when Avery was in the game Teague went 4 of 11 with 2 FTAs for 9 points.

and for 2 at least a couple of his baskets when Bradley were in the game came on TERRIBLE pick and roll coverage by Brandon Bass. When Bradley was locked in 1v1 with Teague he pretty much shut him down and had a couple of plays where he either blocked the shot or caused Teague to miss.

Yeah but a big part of the reason he didn't score much in the second half was improved help defense on drives. Both aspects improved on covering Teague in the second half.

[Celtics4ever]

Teague also missed a bunch of layups which were entirely makeable.  I love Avery, but he wasnt good defensively on Tuesday.  Teague was getting in the lane at will and was also left wide open a few times.  It was more about Teague missing a few shots he was making the in the first half as opposed to Avery's D. 

I think Avery can do better against him, not a knock on Avery.  I think he is still finding his feet in the post season.