NY Miami game

[celticinorlando]

i will wager that there are a ton of current NBA players that wouldn't have been able to handle the 1980's NBA...including lebrick

[jpd985]

OH MY GOD, you couldn't believe the acting by lebron...sooooo weak.....he has the refs following him on twitter......this is NBA inside stuff at its best......any NBA player, present and past has to hate this league now......lebron has the "if i have the ball it is a foul" thing going.....then even a pick by chandler that was a flagrant, which..well it was a foul....but did he roll, flail, dance, jump and cry, hold his neck..it looked like he got shot......then, he was okay.....in an instant....why..a ....miracle....the NBA or CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING....you decide.......! Artest needs to hit lebron with a chair.....lebron is almost dead, then he gets up, and is fine, and goes to the line......the crowd loves it, and buys a bunch more lebron/artest gear....=Stern = success..!!!

Thanks for posting my exact feelings. Saved me lots of time.

My wife (who knows nothing much about BB) happened to see James flopping and faking the hit and pain, then jump up like nothing happened and hit a 3 pt shot with two guys handing on him was amazed the refs could believe the acting and pretending to be hurt it was so bogus..... I didn't know if I should laugh or cry .

I know if I'm upset with the loppside callls in favor of the CHEAT , then I can't imagine how the New York Crowd must be out of their minds mad .

That was one of the worse called games EVER since I've watched NBA, and it was SO lopsided in favor of the HEAT

If the games are going to be called by giving LE CHEAT 30 trips to the foul line a game, then WHY even play the game ?  The game is joke the refs just HANDED the game to the KNICKs on silver platter.

Lets just give the trophy to the CHEATERS and it a year.

This is what scares me the most about the Heat, the fact that they will get all of the calls. I bet Steimsma will foul out after 5 minutes.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

The NY tm has/had plenty of chance in this series..BUT, with the game being called like THAT, no team would have a chance. The refs know how to stem your momentum EVERY time, and also open up a lead for the other team asap..... The refs sent a meesage, touch lebron, foul, get momentum, foul, or 3 seconds, or palming, or anything to make NY lose another posession....this nba is so disappointing.....this week was terrible for the nba's rep, artest, then this lebron thing....stern has no idea how to manage a league, and he thinks the fans are so easily fooled..this is NOT legitimate sport at all.

[butterbeanlove]

The NY tm has/had plenty of chance in this series..BUT, with the game being called like THAT, no team would have a chance. The refs know how to stem your momentum EVERY time, and also open up a lead for the other team asap..... The refs sent a meesage, touch lebron, foul, get momentum, foul, or 3 seconds, or palming, or anything to make NY lose another posession....this nba is so disappointing.....this week was terrible for the nba's rep, artest, then this lebron thing....stern has no idea how to manage a league, and he thinks the fans are so easily fooled..this is NOT legitimate sport at all.

TP... it's a crime what David Stern has done to this league.

[get_banners]

Well, maybe (given that it is NY) there will be a lot of attention to the nonsense refereeing...maybe enough to finally focus some serious attention to how refs have made this league more like the WWF than ever before. Granted, the Knicks fell apart anyway, but if the Heat keep getting away with murder, hopefully the NY media will raise this as a serious problem.

[SHAQATTACK]

The game got so out of hand with the big Le CHeat flopping hoax...it bascically just shut the Knicks down mentally.  They were standing around stunned and bewildered looking at each other , like WHAT just happened and the game just got away at that point .  

Man it was so crazy silly stupid , Im like  waitng for HULK HOGAN to run out on the floor and put an AIRPLANE SPIN on LEBron.   I really though this can't be a real sport I'm watching.

PRO WRESTLING ,  NASCAR , and now the NBA  

[Chief]

The NY tm has/had plenty of chance in this series..BUT, with the game being called like THAT, no team would have a chance. The refs know how to stem your momentum EVERY time, and also open up a lead for the other team asap..... The refs sent a meesage, touch lebron, foul, get momentum, foul, or 3 seconds, or palming, or anything to make NY lose another posession....this nba is so disappointing.....this week was terrible for the nba's rep, artest, then this lebron thing....stern has no idea how to manage a league, and he thinks the fans are so easily fooled..this is NOT legitimate sport at all.

It really made me sick to watch. Not even basketball when teams are flopping. I'm with JVG on this.

[chambers]

I think people are extra disappointed because they thought this would be a series.
You can't beat Miami with a grandpa Amare and Melo shooting that poorly.
They could have been right in that game had Melo been decent regardless of the refs.
The refs were bad, the Chandler call I can understand why he called it a flagrant, he was right in front of it and Lebron sold it properly too. Chandler was trying to hurt Lebron- that is obvious. There were some bad calls but I wouldn't call them momentum changers or run changers. Miami had control of the game with their defense and forced New York to shoot outside over and over. Meanwhile they got to the line as they wished, and not too many off these free throw attempts were due to terrible reffing.
Some of Lebrons flopping was annoying but I think people are seriously overreacting. So much easier to call it when you watch it in slow-mo 20 seconds later and you hate the guy.

Just wait till we play Miami and they can't get to the paint with Bradley, Rondo and KG on rotations. It will be just like what New York played went through today.
I personally want Miami to crush NYK because it means we will meet them in the ECF now that Rose is out and we can beat them in 7. We have a veteran 5 as our starters with Ray and Pietrus coming off the bench. The refs will be ignoring a lot in our favor.

[guava_wrench]

I never thought this would be a good series because as I have said previously, Melo is not a threat against Miami. Lebron can easily shut down Melo's limited game because Melo is all one on one. Lebron is too strong for Melo's post game, and as we saw with D'Antoni, Melo doesn't play well in a system.

Melo also can't do his ugly throw-ball-at-rim-brick-layup-get-offensive-rebound-score play when Lebron isn't going to give him the second shot chance.

Add to that Battier, and the fact that Amare has been marginalized since Melo's arrival, and I don't see why I should expect this series to be competitive.

And the flagrant call on Chandler was a good call. Chandler lunged into a guy backpedaling to clean his clock. Good call (when reduced to Flagrant 1). It was a good playoff cheap shot though. I could see KG doing that. I'm sad to see Shumpert go down. I really like his defense. Having to play Bibby will make things worse. Perhaps a Lin appearance would allow them to ditch the ineffect Melo isos against Lebron.

[slamtheking]

The NY tm has/had plenty of chance in this series..BUT, with the game being called like THAT, no team would have a chance. The refs know how to stem your momentum EVERY time, and also open up a lead for the other team asap..... The refs sent a meesage, touch lebron, foul, get momentum, foul, or 3 seconds, or palming, or anything to make NY lose another posession....this nba is so disappointing.....this week was terrible for the nba's rep, artest, then this lebron thing....stern has no idea how to manage a league, and he thinks the fans are so easily fooled..this is NOT legitimate sport at all.

but that's just it, Stern as worked hard to market players over teams to get as many casual / bandwagon fans following the game.  many, many 'fans' know only what the NBA mouthpieces say is good basketball and only know basketball based on the ESPN highlights which is all flash and little substance.

The 'fans' are very easily fooled because they're following this current version of the game in the first place.

[OsirusCeltics]

I never thought this would be a good series because as I have said previously, Melo is not a threat against Miami. Lebron can easily shut down Melo's limited game because Melo is all one on one. Lebron is too strong for Melo's post game, and as we saw with D'Antoni, Melo doesn't play well in a system.

Melo also can't do his ugly throw-ball-at-rim-brick-layup-get-offensive-rebound-score play when Lebron isn't going to give him the second shot chance.

Add to that Battier, and the fact that Amare has been marginalized since Melo's arrival, and I don't see why I should expect this series to be competitive.

And the flagrant call on Chandler was a good call. Chandler lunged into a guy backpedaling to clean his clock. Good call (when reduced to Flagrant 1). It was a good playoff cheap shot though. I could see KG doing that. I'm sad to see Shumpert go down. I really like his defense. Having to play Bibby will make things worse. Perhaps a Lin appearance would allow them to ditch the ineffect Melo isos against Lebron.

Lebron is the one wit the limited game.. besides jumping and dunking, and jacking up three pointers, what else does Lebron do offensively??

While Carmelo has a pull up jumper, three point shot, take you off the dribble, post game, cutting, and can offensive rebound

I know he's on Sportcenter 24/7, but please stop overrating Lebron

[LooseCannon]

Lebron James vs Carmelo Anthony

At rim: 292-385 (75.8%) vs 185-301 (61.5%)
3-9 ft: 77-159 (48.4%) vs 27-104 (26.0%)
10-15ft: 76-158 (48.1%) vs 62-158 (39.2%)
16-3pt: 122-318 (38.4%) vs 99-259 (38.2%)
3-pt: 54-149 (36.2%) vs 68-203 (33.5%)

[OsirusCeltics]

Lebron James vs Carmelo Anthony

At rim: 292-385 (75.8%) vs 185-301 (61.5%)
3-9 ft: 77-159 (48.4%) vs 27-104 (26.0%)
10-15ft: 76-158 (48.1%) vs 62-158 (39.2%)
16-3pt: 122-318 (38.4%) vs 99-259 (38.2%)
3-pt: 54-149 (36.2%) vs 68-203 (33.5%)

If its not the basic stats of pts, rebs, assts I could care less. And even that can be skewed
Sorry I'm not a stat worshiper

So does those stats help him win important games in the Finals?... *crickets*
Heres a stat you'll like

Total 4th quarter points in the 2011 NBA Finals: Dirk-62pts Lebron-18pts

[LooseCannon]

So does those stats help him win important games in the Finals?... *crickets*

If we're comparing LeBron to Melo, I should point out that Melo is an inefficient offensive player who isn't good enough to lead a team to choking in the NBA Finals. 

So long as Carmelo Anthony is a chucker with bad shot selection who isn't particularly notable on defense, a team built around him can't possibly be a legitimate contender.

Andres Alvarez pretty much states my opinion of Lebron vs Carmelo:

In complimenting Melo for being a pure scorer what people need to realize is that shot selection is part of being a scorer! Taking bad shots at a better rate than most players may be impressive. However, the NBA is not a game of HORSE. I will conceed that Melo is better at making worse shots than LeBron is. However, I see nothing pure or impressive about a player that chooses to take bad shots.

[guava_wrench]

I never thought this would be a good series because as I have said previously, Melo is not a threat against Miami. Lebron can easily shut down Melo's limited game because Melo is all one on one. Lebron is too strong for Melo's post game, and as we saw with D'Antoni, Melo doesn't play well in a system.

Melo also can't do his ugly throw-ball-at-rim-brick-layup-get-offensive-rebound-score play when Lebron isn't going to give him the second shot chance.

Add to that Battier, and the fact that Amare has been marginalized since Melo's arrival, and I don't see why I should expect this series to be competitive.

And the flagrant call on Chandler was a good call. Chandler lunged into a guy backpedaling to clean his clock. Good call (when reduced to Flagrant 1). It was a good playoff cheap shot though. I could see KG doing that. I'm sad to see Shumpert go down. I really like his defense. Having to play Bibby will make things worse. Perhaps a Lin appearance would allow them to ditch the ineffect Melo isos against Lebron.

Lebron is the one wit the limited game.. besides jumping and dunking, and jacking up three pointers, what else does Lebron do offensively??

While Carmelo has a pull up jumper, three point shot, take you off the dribble, post game, cutting, and can offensive rebound

I know he's on Sportcenter 24/7, but please stop overrating Lebron

What makes you think you can just say whatever you want without people fact checking you wild claims?

Lebron Jacks up 3's while Melo has a 3pt shot? Fail. Lebron shot .362 this year from 3. Melo shot .335%. Lebron shoots .331 from 3 for career, Melo shoots .322. In other words, Melo is not good from 3 and worse than Lebron. Please do not just make stuff up because you wish is was true. Considering Melo shot the 3 more frequently than Lebron this season, who is the chucker?

Another major difference - Lebron can finish. Melo just throws the ball at the side of the rim. Fortunately for Melo, he knows he is not a top finisher so he follows his shot and can score on follow ups by getting offensive rebounds off of shots. Melo regularly drives his way into no man's land for easy turnovers or embarrassing shots that aren't even close. Lebron knows how to get to his shot.

Lebron also doesn't get shut down like Melo does. If someone tried to, Lebron would still contribute because he knows how to get his teammates involved. Melo, on the other hand, turns Amare from an all star starter into a non-factor.

Don't confuse Melo's willingness to take any shot with a varied game. Dude is clueless and it places a ceiling on his team's success.

And Melo cutting? Huh? It is Lebron that regularly finishes the weak side lobs.