Young Offseason Targets

[alajet]

nick young is a joke

Averaging 1.0 assists per game in his career or something like that. Total joke.

Brandon Bass averages .6 assists per game for his career but does his job and plays his role well....Is he a joke too?

Nick Young is in the league to score. He does it well. He has Chris Paul to distribute the ball, so let him shoot.

The last time I checked Bass wasn't listed as a guard, though.
It isn't even about Young's assist numbers. I have watched him a lot and do you know why he averages so little assists?
Guess what? Because he simply doesn't pass the ball. So, he's basically a black hole that will hit some shots every once in a while and miss on other nights.
Just like JR Smith. Do you want to see him as a Celtic? Hands down, I don't. He can drop 5 treys one night or reach that total in a week, it's so much about fluctuation. Not much of a difference between JR and Nate in my eyes.

[Michael Anthony]

Carryover Players:

Rondo - $11,000,000
Bradley - $1,630,800
Pierce - $16,790,345
Johnson - $1,120,440
Stiemsma - $1,029,389

That is $31,570,974 committed to five players. We will also have cap holds for our two first rounders and two second rounders, lets call it another $5,000. Stiemsma is an RFA cap hold.

With $36,570,974 committed, and a potential $58,000,000 cap, we have $21,500,000 available.

Take a look at the Free Agent pool:
http://www.hoopsworld.com/2012-nba-free-agents

We need a starting center, a starting power forward, a backup point guard, a backup wing and a backup power forward.

I assume we go hard after Hibbert / McGee / Lopez for between $8-$12 per season. That leaves us with $12 million in cap room and a lot of holes. You might be able to fill those holes with guys like Thompson, Randolph and Rush.

Rondo - Bradley
Bradley - Rush
Pierce - Pietrus
Thompson - Randolph
Hibbert - Stiemsma

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I remember a bunch of folks here, before the draft was talking about Jeremy Tyler.

Most Warriors fans here in the Bay Area loving his steady improvement. And some fans here thought he should be one of the choices to be the draft pick in last year's draft.

This kid has good athleticism, good low post moves and gives solid effort on rebounds and defense. He sure does have a lot to learn but he's only 20 years old, a lot of room to grow there.

I can't really find a confirmation but I believe he's a free agent next year, but I like for the C's to give him a shot. And I know JJJ has not been seeing the floor but looking at it, he's looking better that JaJuan. He can be a solid backup 4/5 and possibly the starting PF in a few years.

Yeah let's steal Rush and Tyler from the Warriors. Yeah!

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I remember a bunch of folks here, before the draft was talking about Jeremy Tyler.

Most Warriors fans here in the Bay Area loving his steady improvement. And some fans here thought he should be one of the choices to be the draft pick in last year's draft.

This kid has good athleticism, good low post moves and gives solid effort on rebounds and defense. He sure does have a lot to learn but he's only 20 years old, a lot of room to grow there.

I can't really find a confirmation but I believe he's a free agent next year, but I like for the C's to give him a shot. And I know JJJ has not been seeing the floor but looking at it, he's looking better that JaJuan. He can be a solid backup 4/5 and possibly the starting PF in a few years.

Yeah let's steal Rush and Tyler from the Warriors. Yeah!

Scratch that, Tyler is booked for 3 years. Maybe we just trade for him then?

[Jon]

As a few others have noted, this is most likely NOT the way to approach rebuilding.  The last thing we want to do is sink money into non-core players.  With the way the salary cap works in the NBA, it's almost guaranteed to be a recipe for disaster. 

What's more, assuming KG returns (and certainly if Ray, Bass, and/or Green come back) we're not going to have the cap space people think we might. 

The only two ways I'd consider signing those guys is if

a) one chooses to come cheap on a short deal

or

b) Danny is absolutely convinced there is no way we'll ever land a big time free agent and that the only way to rebuild is to gather young parts and deal them for stars like we did with KG and Ray.  But while Ainge may end up resorting to that someday, I don't see him throwing in the flag on the summers of 2013 and 2014 yet. 

[Michael Anthony]

As a few others have noted, this is most likely NOT the way to approach rebuilding.  The last thing we want to do is sink money into non-core players.  With the way the salary cap works in the NBA, it's almost guaranteed to be a recipe for disaster. 

What's more, assuming KG returns (and certainly if Ray, Bass, and/or Green come back) we're not going to have the cap space people think we might. 

The only two ways I'd consider signing those guys is if

a) one chooses to come cheap on a short deal

or

b) Danny is absolutely convinced there is no way we'll ever land a big time free agent and that the only way to rebuild is to gather young parts and deal them for stars like we did with KG and Ray.  But while Ainge may end up resorting to that someday, I don't see him throwing in the flag on the summers of 2013 and 2014 yet. 

I agree that throwing mid-level deals at marginal players is the path to mediocrity.

I am trying to target low cost, high upside young players to compliment a core of Rondo - Pierce - Hibbert. Depending on how we do in this draft, those complimentary players will determine how we compete in the future.

[CelticG1]

Can danny snag a couple young guys who haven't even scratched their potential yet?

Ainge wouldn't include Rondo in the KG deal before Rondo was anything,  and he didn't seem keen on trading Bradley this year either.

The problem is any young guy who has shown high potential like Bradley will be hard to get, any any young guy who has consistently been decent will be overpriced..

[LooseCannon]

I agree that throwing mid-level deals at marginal players is the path to mediocrity.

I am trying to target low cost, high upside young players to compliment a core of Rondo - Pierce - Hibbert. Depending on how we do in this draft, those complimentary players will determine how we compete in the future.

None of the guys you started out mentioning in the OP are worth four-year deals.  I'm not sure that free agency is the best way to get the type of player you want, because they're usually not that low cost because there is some stupid team often willing to overpay based on potential.  I'm also not sure they are the best fit for the team.  The Celtics need mature, high BBIQ players who will buy into his system.  The team should probably avoid young players looking for an increased role on offense, as some on your list are.

[goCeltics]

Carryover Players:

Rondo - $11,000,000
Bradley - $1,630,800
Pierce - $16,790,345
Johnson - $1,120,440
Stiemsma - $1,029,389

That is $31,570,974 committed to five players. We will also have cap holds for our two first rounders and two second rounders, lets call it another $5,000. Stiemsma is an RFA cap hold.

With $36,570,974 committed, and a potential $58,000,000 cap, we have $21,500,000 available.

Take a look at the Free Agent pool:
http://www.hoopsworld.com/2012-nba-free-agents

We need a starting center, a starting power forward, a backup point guard, a backup wing and a backup power forward.

I assume we go hard after Hibbert / McGee / Lopez for between $8-$12 per season. That leaves us with $12 million in cap room and a lot of holes. You might be able to fill those holes with guys like Thompson, Randolph and Rush.

Rondo - Bradley
Bradley - Rush
Pierce - Pietrus
Thompson - Randolph
Hibbert - Stiemsma

steamer has a qualfing offer only, his gonna get more than the vet min and to match you would need either cap room or the mle as they don't hold his bird rights. Note you don't get a mle if you sign anyone using cap room without having their bird rights. Besides whatever you offered rush/thompson/hibbert would be likely matched as they are RFA. randolph might not get a qualifing offer

[CelticHooligan3]

My vote goes for Anthony Randolph and Terrence Williams assuming we can get both for vet min deals or close to that. If so they'd be two low risk, high reward, guys that Ainge seems to love.

Tell me a little seasoning next to KG wont light a fire under Ant Rand. If he ever puts it together he could be a difference maker. He has the tools but just hasnt put it together on a consistent basis. His recent string of games show his peaks and valleys perfectly but he needs that consistency to earn the minutes.

Same deal for Williams. More so immaturity issues as of late but maybe Pierce could be a good guy to mentor him. Very strong, athletic, and quick. Physical freak with a quick first step who isnt afraid to get down in the trenches and play some tough nosed defense. This issue here may be more between the ears but who knows maybe Doc could reach him. If anyone could it would be Doc id have to say but then again i am a homer.