No way KG is coming back for less than 10 million

[cman88]

the celtics NEED to bring Garnett back IMO...besides the fact that he is playing Great, I view it as how we were supposed to transition from Bird/mchale to len bias/lewis

theres value in having a vet like KG on this team to bring that culture to the "next generation of celtics" the ubunto/defense

thats why ive never been a fan of the "blow it up total rebuild" would you rather have rookies/youth "learn on the fly" or get to learn from hall of famers on how to play the game?

[hpantazo]

the celtics NEED to bring Garnett back IMO...besides the fact that he is playing Great, I view it as how we were supposed to transition from Bird/mchale to len bias/lewis

theres value in having a vet like KG on this team to bring that culture to the "next generation of celtics" the ubunto/defense

thats why ive never been a fan of the "blow it up total rebuild" would you rather have rookies/youth "learn on the fly" or get to learn from hall of famers on how to play the game?

I fully agree. When rookies learn on the fly with no veteran leadership, they end up like Antoine Walker.

[Eja117]

I'm not sure, but I kinda think he's past the money stage of things. I think he'd take less just to stick it to those brats in Miami. I wouldn't be surprised if he signs last and a one year thing. But with a no trade clause. I just think he'd cheat lie steal and kill for another ring that was robbed from him due to two injuries. I think he knows that loser Bron is trying to steal a ring from him and that Kobe stole one from him and he wants to steal one back. It might be with another team, but I just think money is secondary for him now

[LooseCannon]

I can see KG make signing another center besides Stiemsma a condition for him coming back so he doesn't have to play so many minutes as a 5.

[GreenFaith1819]

KG's going nowhere....don't know why we're worried, here.

He'll get a decent contract that is fair for both sides. The man looks to remain a top 5 PF for another couple of years.

KG is cut from different cloth...that's why he stays.

We'll sign Kaman to allow him to move back to PF...bring back Jeff Green, etc...he'll see what Danny does with the draft, and that'll seal the deal.

He retires in Green - along with Paul and hopefully Ray.

At least that's MY hope.

I was thinking this exact same thing until i saw how affective he is at the Center spot. It seems like hes able to use his quickness and ability to hit open jumpers to draw his matchup away from the hoop. It almost looks as if this simple switch is the catalyst to his recent resurgence. Dont get me wrong Kaman would look great in Green but maybe we need to consider KG staying at the center spot for the rest of his career, no?

You make a good point...just in the few clips I saw last night, the man was posting up, taking shots INSIDE (wow), doing center-like things. It's helping the team big time.

But I remembered his comment a few weeks ago about him not liking the center spot...that's why I would consider getting Kaman.

But you are so right, Celtichooligan - the move DOES seem to have restarted his resurgence. The man is playing at 07-08 levels since the move.

I've said it before and I will say it again: Doc Rivers is a BRILLIANT COACH. I know all may not agree with me, and that's ok. But the man KNEW what the team needed...he wasn't afraid of asking KG to step out of his comfort zone, and the results have been very good, to say the least.

Brilliant Move, Doc. And way to show Leadership, KG! Moving to the Center spot at 35 years of age...going up against Bynum, Dwight, etc...I love the man. He is playing every bit worth of the higher $$ amounts listed in this thread, but I'm betting that he will look at what Danny is trying to do in the off-season (Jeff Green, Wilcox, Bass (perhaps), free agents, Ray Allen, etc), and think that he will have an opportunity to keep BOS competitive even next year.

With what I stated earlier - if he demands - say - 12-14 mil as I saw listed in the thread, will Danny be able to execute his plans?

Like some have noted here in the thread, he's already made much money. I don't think Danny will low-ball him, but Danny Ainge NEEDS to WORK with this offseason. BOS has a great chance here in June to RELOAD with draft picks, free agents, etc.

I don't think KG is intent on crippling the team just for money. Even HE said that he wished Greg Stiemsma could get a long-term deal...so with comments like this the man is definitely considering the future of the team.

KG the GM?

But he won't be disrespected with a bad offer, either. Danny wouldn't do that.

[Jon]

Given that there doesn't seem to be any building blocks out there, I see no reason not to offer KG quite a hefty 1 year extension.  We retain his value, stay competitive, and give the young guys at least one more year of his tutelage.

Agreed. The free agent market is bleak. I'm fine with a $10 mil one year deal.

The money sounds right to me ($10 million per annum) but I think KG will require a two year commitment given the offers he is likely to receive from elsewhere (New Jersey).

If Danny wants to keep it to one year, I expect he'd have to offer up anywhere from $15 to $18 million.

And assuming Wyc is OK with it, I'd be plenty happy to give KG another 20+ million dollars to stay one more year.  If we're not going to make a run at free agent this summer, it really doesn't matter how much we play him other than with luxury tax numbers (which obviously could influence the decision). 

As for a two year deal, I'd even consider that.  I question how much rebuilding is really going to happen until Pierce's deal comes off the books in 2014, so I wouldn't have a huge problem inking KG to a two year deal that expired at the same time.  We'd then have both of their expiring deals in the summer of 2013 and the subsequent season to trade as part of a larger deal or we'd go into the summer of 2014 having given all of our young guys (and future picks) the benefit of playing with KG and then essentially have a roster of Rondo and young guys. 

Also, inking KG to a two year extension gives us flexibility with Bass and Green.  If KG we bring back KG for two years, cap space is gone, so inking them to two years deals becomes a non-issue. 

[CelticHooligan3]

KG's going nowhere....don't know why we're worried, here.

He'll get a decent contract that is fair for both sides. The man looks to remain a top 5 PF for another couple of years.

KG is cut from different cloth...that's why he stays.

We'll sign Kaman to allow him to move back to PF...bring back Jeff Green, etc...he'll see what Danny does with the draft, and that'll seal the deal.

He retires in Green - along with Paul and hopefully Ray.

At least that's MY hope.

I was thinking this exact same thing until i saw how affective he is at the Center spot. It seems like hes able to use his quickness and ability to hit open jumpers to draw his matchup away from the hoop. It almost looks as if this simple switch is the catalyst to his recent resurgence. Dont get me wrong Kaman would look great in Green but maybe we need to consider KG staying at the center spot for the rest of his career, no?

You make a good point...just in the few clips I saw last night, the man was posting up, taking shots INSIDE (wow), doing center-like things. It's helping the team big time.

But I remembered his comment a few weeks ago about him not liking the center spot...that's why I would consider getting Kaman.

But you are so right, Celtichooligan - the move DOES seem to have restarted his resurgence. The man is playing at 07-08 levels since the move.

I've said it before and I will say it again: Doc Rivers is a BRILLIANT COACH. I know all may not agree with me, and that's ok. But the man KNEW what the team needed...he wasn't afraid of asking KG to step out of his comfort zone, and the results have been very good, to say the least.

Brilliant Move, Doc. And way to show Leadership, KG! Moving to the Center spot at 35 years of age...going up against Bynum, Dwight, etc...I love the man. He is playing every bit worth of the higher $$ amounts listed in this thread, but I'm betting that he will look at what Danny is trying to do in the off-season (Jeff Green, Wilcox, Bass (perhaps), free agents, Ray Allen, etc), and think that he will have an opportunity to keep BOS competitive even next year.

With what I stated earlier - if he demands - say - 12-14 mil as I saw listed in the thread, will Danny be able to execute his plans?

Like some have noted here in the thread, he's already made much money. I don't think Danny will low-ball him, but Danny Ainge NEEDS to WORK with this offseason. BOS has a great chance here in June to RELOAD with draft picks, free agents, etc.

I don't think KG is intent on crippling the team just for money. Even HE said that he wished Greg Stiemsma could get a long-term deal...so with comments like this the man is definitely considering the future of the team.

KG the GM?

But he won't be disrespected with a bad offer, either. Danny wouldn't do that.

Doc always seems to attract many posters and fans wrath. Sometimes rightfully so, other times not. But i agree he deserves major credit for this move. Dont beleive me?

Take a long look at the situation in Orlando and LA with prima dona Centers not joining the huddle or blatantly chucking threes at the top of the key only to tell the media that it will continue. Unreal. In my eyes when you disregard the coach and disrespect him openly like that your undermining the whole team. Show a little class. Sit down shut up and act like a man. Dont be laughing on the sideline in a forty point decimation of your pride.

Kudos to both KG and Doc for acting like professionals and carrying themselves as such in an NBA where that type of thing is considered the exception.

[j804]

I hope we pay him and keep him here KG is the Celtics he embodies our identity and what we have been the past handful of years.

[cman88]

id keep KG at center...its no surprise that his "rejuvination" offensively has come when moving from the 4 to the 5.

in a league that is "big challenged" KG has the upper hand on most every center other than Bynum...and its because while he may have lost some speed advantage over other PF's he has it vs. centers

right now, KG is probably the 2nd best center in the east...and is averagine his highest PPG since his knee surgery

[Kane3387]

I'm not sure, but I kinda think he's past the money stage of things. I think he'd take less just to stick it to those brats in Miami. I wouldn't be surprised if he signs last and a one year thing. But with a no trade clause. I just think he'd cheat lie steal and kill for another ring that was robbed from him due to two injuries. I think he knows that loser Bron is trying to steal a ring from him and that Kobe stole one from him and he wants to steal one back. It might be with another team, but I just think money is secondary for him now

I agree in regards to the money is secondary. People forget that he has postponed money being paid to him for like five years AFTER he retires. I could see him giving money back for a player option like Ray Allen did and a No Trade Clause.

[jaybahs]

Gotta lock up Garnett next year ... He's gonna play it out as a celtic ... One of the most prolific players to ever play the game and still performs at such a high level. I hope they pursue both Ray and Garnett in the offseason ... I'd hate to see them suited up for any other team.

[birdwatcher]

Seeing how Pierce is making what, 16 mil next year? Yeah, you're right. Hoping he'd take 12-14, but i'm sure some other contender would be willing to set the market for him. Hey, he could command more than pierce if you consider he's either the number 2 or 3 center in the East right now. And, if he signed someplace with a good defensive/rebounding power forward, he could be even better.
IMO, it just points to Ray not being here next year. We're not gonna have two old guys at 16mil each plus Rondo at 11mil. We have three others on the books and if we keep both draft picks we have to guarantee two other rookie contracts. And we want sign Jeff Green whose offer was like 8mil, and Bass who will want more $$. If we're going to spend that kinda money on a shooting guard, I'd rather it be a younger dude like OJ Mayo, or even better, Austin Rivers.

[paintitgreen]

Can't see the Cs being able to bring in a guy like OJ Mayo for just the midlevel. Maybe Kaman though. And if Boston brings back KG and Green, they're most likely not going to have cap space leftover so the midlevel or maybe a sign and trade is all they're likely to have.

For KG, I'd be up for giving him 2 years at up to $12 mil a year, or one year at up to $16 mil. If the market drives you higher, you reevaluate because it might be worth it but you have to know where you're going. If you start getting into 3 years, $45 million, it becomes really tough to look at that as a good signing.

[TripleOT]

I think KG wants to finish up as a Celtic, and I also think we will sin a deal that allows them to add enough players to make another run at a title.  Give him three years $26m with the money spread out to a third year, even if KG isn't planning on playing a third year.

Then the Cs will have more room to add players this summer. $8.5m next year for KG will have the Cs vested at $43m for Pierce, Rondo, KG, AB, JJJ and the two rookie first rounders.  With next year's cap at around $59m, the Cs will have some space to either re-up Ray Allen, Bass and maybe Jeff Green, or bring in a solid FA.

Hopefully Bass will agree to play next year for the $4m, with the promise for a big deal the following year when Pierce's money comes off the books.     

[Q_FBE]

You sign him year to year and pay what you need to. The Celtics will not find better quality big men help elsewhere. I think Rajon Rondo gets traded out before KG, RA, or PP are let go. KG understands that starting over for a new team requires learning a new system and there is a risk that his skill set and the new system might be a poor fit.

Plus I think Bill Russell and Tommy Heinsohn have befriended KG and think of him as a Celtic legend.

Danny Ainge has not made the best possible decisions since 2010 and would be ostracized for letting one of the big three go.

KG must stay and retire a Celtic hopefully in 2016.