Wow...Marvin Williams? Safe to say I don't remember Williams play in college.

What about Jones? I've seen him play a couple times when Baylor is on TV, and I like his ability, just sometimes he seems to underwhelm. I've heard he could possibly fall out of the top 10 is Baylor doesn't make a strong push to at least the elite eight

I think a big like Fab Melo might be around by the time we pick if we don't trade up.

Andre Drummond is probably going in the lottery, but he is intriguing.

Honestly, the way the league is evolving I'm not sure if a big is our most pressing need. But then again next year we'll pretty much have a clean slate to work with and a bunch of holes to plug up.

In all likelihood we will have one pick in the mid-teens (ours) and one in the 20-25 range (Clips).

It is inconceivable that we could package those picks for anything in the top 5. Even if we included Rondo, we might not be able to get anything in the top 3. This draft projects to be stacked at the top.

We might be able to move those picks, perhaps with another asset, to get into the 8-12 range. I suppose there's a slight chance Barnes falls that far. Even if he doesn't, there still look to be a slew of very good players available in that range. I'd be willing to bet that the best player picked 8-12 in the 2012 draft will be a perennial all-star - not a franchise guy, but very good.

Whether or not Danny could find a similar talent with the two picks we currently own is the unknown factor. Danny has a good track record, so there's reason for optimism.

Thing wit both Barnes nd Perry Jones is they're both skilled but have no killer instinct nor competitive edge. Too many games they just let their games ride out when adversity strikes neither guy wants to take over games they're complacent

This is far from true about Barnes.  He had a rough transition to college, but once he got about halfway through his freshman year he's been fine.  No killer instinct? Tell that to Clemson when he dropped 40 on them in the ACC tourn last year.  He has the killer instinct when he needs it.  Just because he defers on occasion to Zeller, Henson, Marshall, it doesn't make him a lesser player, it just means he's smarter then a player like Austin Rivers who chooses not to do it.

Danny's draft ability is over rated. Yes he turned BBD into BBass; but

2005:
18. Gerald Green (making a minor comeback)

2006:
18. Rajon Rondo (draft of the decade)

2007: (weak draft)
5. Jeff Green (became Ray)
32. Gabe Pruitt (no longer in NBA) over Marc Gasol, Ramon Sessions
35. Glen Davis (good value, not great)

2008:
30. J. R. Giddens (no longer in NBA) over Chris Douglas-Roberts, Mario Chalmers and Sonny Weems

2009:
58. Lester Hudson (no longer in NBA) over Wes Matthews (undrafted)

2010:
19. Avery Bradley, over James Anderson, Damion James, Landry Fields, Greivis Vasquez
52. Luke Harrangody

2011:
25 (27). JaJuan Johnson over Marshon Brooks
55. E'twaun Moore

Quote from: gar on March 18, 2012, 11:05:58 PM

2008:
30. J. R. Giddens (no longer in NBA) over Chris Douglas-Roberts, Mario Chalmers and Sonny Weems

All awful players.

Quote from: gar on March 18, 2012, 11:05:58 PM

2009:
58. Lester Hudson (no longer in NBA) over Wes Matthews (undrafted)

Meaning nobody drafted Wes Matthews. Shame on DA for not drafting a guy nobody else did.

Quote from: gar on March 18, 2012, 11:05:58 PM

2010:
19. Avery Bradley, over James Anderson, Damion James, Landry Fields, Greivis Vasquez
52. Luke Harrangody

I'd take Bradley over any of those guys but Fields. Anderson, James and Vasquez suck.

Quote from: gar on March 18, 2012, 11:05:58 PM

2011:
25 (27). JaJuan Johnson over Marshon Brooks
55. E'twaun Moore

It's still too early to tell who is better between Johnson and Brooks.

Compare to JR Giddens, I'd take CDR, Chalmers and Weems anyday. They could at least give this team some contributions.

Drafted Lester Hudson. Sure nobody drafted Wes Matthews and Alonzo Gee, but Danny failed to see the talent that is available in pick 58. I mean really, Hudson over Eric Devendorf, Paul Harris, AJ Abrams, Josh Shipp, Josh Heytvelt and Tyrese Rice? Would they had stayed in NBA longer, I don't know, maybe not. But I sure as heck know they're better than Hudson (or a better choice).

Bradley is working out okay. But not taking James Anderson, Greivis Vasquez or Damion James is a mistake. Those guys are contributing more than Avery is giving us. Only advantage Avery has is elite NBA defense. Anderson could be our off the bench scorer, something WE NEED right now. James is a solid all around wing. I'll give you Vasquez, he has mediocre defense but the dude can score and play point better than Bradley.

Brooks has fallen off the grid. But he's still by far the better choice over JJJ. Brooks, like my argument with James Anderson can be our off the bench scorer the we need right now. Can play 2-3. Gives effort on defense and by far can help us give more contributions than what JJJ is giving us.

Other than Rondo and BBD, Danny has messed up in picking in the draft the past 3 years. He needs to re evaluate his talent scouting.

Compare to JR Giddens, I'd take CDR, Chalmers and Weems anyday. They could at least give this team some contributions.

I'll give you Chalmers, but both CDR and Weems are currently out of the league.

Drafted Lester Hudson. Sure nobody drafted Wes Matthews and Alonzo Gee, but Danny failed to see the talent that is available in pick 58. I mean really, Hudson over Eric Devendorf, Paul Harris, AJ Abrams, Josh Shipp, Josh Heytvelt and Tyrese Rice? Would they had stayed in NBA longer, I don't know, maybe not. But I sure as heck know they're better than Hudson (or a better choice).

Here's a fun fact about all of the players you just mentioned: None of them are in the NBA. Clearly Ainge blew it on these all-stars.

Bradley is working out okay. But not taking James Anderson, Greivis Vasquez or Damion James is a mistake. Those guys are contributing more than Avery is giving us. Only advantage Avery has is elite NBA defense. Anderson could be our off the bench scorer, something WE NEED right now. James is a solid all around wing. I'll give you Vasquez, he has mediocre defense but the dude can score and play point better than Bradley.

James Anderson and his 3.5 points per game or Damion James and his 4.9 points per game would certainly be a serious boost to our offense, I agree. Definitely better than Bradley and his 4.5 points per game with his lockdown defense.

Brooks has fallen off the grid. But he's still by far the better choice over JJJ. Brooks, like my argument with James Anderson can be our off the bench scorer the we need right now. Can play 2-3. Gives effort on defense and by far can help us give more contributions than what JJJ is giving us.

I'm glad to see your crystal ball is functioning properly and you can tell that Brooks will contribute more in his career than JJJ.

Other than Rondo and BBD, Danny has messed up in picking in the draft the past 3 years. He needs to re evaluate his talent scouting.

Given where the Celtics are normally drafting, hitting on two or three picks is probably on par with what other teams are doing.