« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Down

Author Topic: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?  (Read 8131 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« on: March 17, 2012, 11:40:09 PM »

Offline CelticSooner

  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11884
  • Tommy Points: 902
  • GOT IT!!!
That's of course if Ainge would have taken him. I would like to think Ainge would have.

If wonder if he would be playing under Doc. Seems like all rookies are in Doc's doghouse the minute they hit Boston. The only time any really play is if Doc has no choice.
Logged
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2012, 11:48:32 PM »

Offline Who

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 53440
  • Tommy Points: 2578
I don't think he'd have played much to start the season (scrap minutes) but after JO went down, Faried would have gotten a fair bit of time as the backup PF. Probably 15-18 minutes a night. And then in the 20-25 minute range after Wilcox went out. 
Logged
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2012, 11:51:45 PM »

Offline Chief

  • Robert Parish
  • *********************
  • Posts: 21271
  • Tommy Points: 2452
Nope. Not with Rivers. 3 or 4 years from now, when Johnson is a good pro, people will have blurred memories of him playing  a lot this season. I'm putting it in writing:

"Right now, 3-17-12, the Celtics only have 4 healthy big men on their roster. And JJJ is one of them and his does not play unless it's a blowout".


Sincerely,
Chief
Logged
Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
 
Larry Bird
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2012, 12:04:28 AM »

Offline GrandTheftRondo

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1952
  • Tommy Points: 167
Quote from: CelticSooner on March 17, 2012, 11:40:09 PM
That's of course if Ainge would have taken him. I would like to think Ainge would have.

If wonder if he would be playing under Doc. Seems like all rookies are in Doc's doghouse the minute they hit Boston. The only time any really play is if Doc has no choice.

Of course he wouldnt be playing. You knew the answer to this already lol

I didn't watch the game tonight, but I saw Faried play against ATL. Love that kids energy. He's gonna have a great career.
Logged
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2012, 12:22:30 AM »

Offline chambers

  • Tiny Archibald
  • *******
  • Posts: 7484
  • Tommy Points: 944
  • Boston Celtics= Championships, nothing less.
He would definitely be playing.
He is much stronger than Johnson and has a nose for the ball like Zac Randolph- although his interior defense is pretty weak.
He works well on the nuggets because they are an offensively minded team, so Faried letting 10-15 easy paint points get scored on him means less than it does if he were playing in our system were interior defense is much more important than scoring 110-120 points a game.

You can't compare JJJ to Faried. Faried's rebounding instincts are NBA level already- we saw that in college and it's why he went that way in the draft.

Steimsma is getting a run but people seem to forget about that.
JJJ just isn't physically strong enough to compete inside yet.
Logged
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2012, 12:26:46 AM »

Offline OmarSekou

  • Jaylen Brown
  • Posts: 727
  • Tommy Points: 93
Quote from: Who on March 17, 2012, 11:48:32 PM
I don't think he'd have played much to start the season (scrap minutes) but after JO went down, Faried would have gotten a fair bit of time as the backup PF. Probably 15-18 minutes a night. And then in the 20-25 minute range after Wilcox went out. 
Agree. He would have been behind Bass and KG at PF. When guys started going down I'm confident he would've established him as the manimal he is. Maybe even before that. If he was grabbing rebounds and outhustling everyone in limited minutes Doc would've found a place for him.
Logged
"Suit up every day."
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2012, 12:29:48 AM »

Offline thestackshow

  • Bill Walton
  • *
  • Posts: 1349
  • Tommy Points: 112
Doubt it, Doc only plays rookies if they have all-nba level defense.

Offense and Rebounding is an afterthought to Doc Rivers.
Logged
[img width= height=]http://oi43.tinypic.com/2afde6p.jpg[/img]
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2012, 12:33:32 AM »

Offline Yoki_IsTheName

  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11134
  • Tommy Points: 1304
  • I'm a Paul Heyman guy.
He would. Who would not like that energy and hustle and hard nosed play.
Logged
2019 CStrong Historical Draft 2000s OKC Thunder.
PG: Jrue Holiday / Isaiah Thomas / Larry Hughes
SG: Paul George / Aaron McKie / Bradley Beal
SF: Paul Pierce / Tayshaun Prince / Brian Scalabrine
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge / Shareef Abdur-Raheem / Ben Simmons
C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2012, 12:40:55 AM »

Offline OmarSekou

  • Jaylen Brown
  • Posts: 727
  • Tommy Points: 93
Quote from: thestackshow on March 18, 2012, 12:29:48 AM
Doubt it, Doc only plays rookies if they have all-nba level defense.

Offense and Rebounding is an afterthought to Doc Rivers.
Tell that to Leon Powe.
Logged
"Suit up every day."
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2012, 01:00:11 AM »

Offline LooseCannon

  • NCE
  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11833
  • Tommy Points: 950
Quote from: thestackshow on March 18, 2012, 12:29:48 AM
Doubt it, Doc only plays rookies if they have all-nba level defense.

Offense and Rebounding is an afterthought to Doc Rivers.

I don't think Doc requires all-NBA level defense, but I have no problem with him sitting players, even if they are making shots, if they don't seem to be buying in to the team defense.  I'd rather do that than sit players who do play defense but can't buy a basket.
Logged
"The worst thing that ever happened in sports was sports radio, and the internet is sports radio on steroids with lower IQs.” -- Brian Burke, former Toronto Maple Leafs senior adviser, at the 2013 MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2012, 01:13:46 AM »

Offline OhioGreen

  • Jaylen Brown
  • Posts: 686
  • Tommy Points: 55
Quote from: LooseCannon on March 18, 2012, 01:00:11 AM
Quote from: thestackshow on March 18, 2012, 12:29:48 AM
Doubt it, Doc only plays rookies if they have all-nba level defense.

Offense and Rebounding is an afterthought to Doc Rivers.

I don't think Doc requires all-NBA level defense, but I have no problem with him sitting players, even if they are making shots, if they don't seem to be buying in to the team defense.  I'd rather do that than sit players who do play defense but can't buy a basket.

That's why we're losing now------we can't score!!!!!!! ::) >:(
Logged
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2012, 01:54:54 AM »

Offline Celtics18

  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11688
  • Tommy Points: 1469
He'd definitely be playing.  No question about that.  We could use him.
Logged
DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2012, 05:46:21 AM »

Offline phonic1

  • Xavier Tillman Sr.
  • Posts: 29
  • Tommy Points: 7
Big Baby could contribute, so he played.  Powe could contribute, so he played.  As much as we need size right now, if JuJuan Johnson could help this team, he'd be playing.  So lay off Doc already.  Personally, I think JJJ is terrible and will have the same career that every soft, 6'10", jump shooting PF, who plays no defense and can't rebound has.  A short one.  The only reason he's on the C's is because of his height.  He was just another body to fill a roster spot, at a time when we were desperate for size.  In fact, our ENTIRE bench is put together out of desperation.  With MAYBE the exception of Pietrus, none of our reserves belong in the NBA, and in four years or less, none of them will be in the NBA. 

I assume the people that call out Doc for not playing the rooks are kids.  When I was young, no matter how bad they were, the rookies were always my favorite players.  Or at least I always wanted to see them play.  As I got older, I learned how to evaluate talent a little better, and I understood why the rookies didn't play.  For every basket you watch JJJ make, Doc sees him make 5 mistakes that you don't see.  Stiemsma, Bradley, Moore and JJJ are not NBA players.  So don't get mad at Doc for not playing them in NBA games. Oh, and this link also says you're wrong.  Good day, kids.

http://www.celticslife.com/2012/01/debunking-myth-that-doc-wont-play.html
Logged
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2012, 06:09:39 AM »

Offline Rtpas11

  • Jayson Tatum
  • Posts: 803
  • Tommy Points: 76
heck naw, not with Doc coaching. His talents would rot on the bench until all of our front court men got injured, like Leon Powe, Glen Davis... etc

I love Doc, but I really hate his reluctance to give young guys a chance to play to get better in game & not just practice. >:(
Logged
Re: If Faried fell to the C's, would he be playing?
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2012, 07:25:59 AM »

Offline 2short

  • Paul Silas
  • ******
  • Posts: 6080
  • Tommy Points: 428
Quote from: chambers on March 18, 2012, 12:22:30 AM
He would definitely be playing.
He is much stronger than Johnson and has a nose for the ball like Zac Randolph- although his interior defense is pretty weak.
He works well on the nuggets because they are an offensively minded team, so Faried letting 10-15 easy paint points get scored on him means less than it does if he were playing in our system were interior defense is much more important than scoring 110-120 points a game.

You can't compare JJJ to Faried. Faried's rebounding instincts are NBA level already- we saw that in college and it's why he went that way in the draft.

Steimsma is getting a run but people seem to forget about that.
JJJ just isn't physically strong enough to compete inside yet.
agree, faried is nba ready, reminds of gerald wallace quite a bit
steimsma is putting together a nice rookie season, i hope they resign him/extension  doc didn't throw him into the fire but has brought him along nicely
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Up
« previous next »