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Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2012, 01:04:06 PM »

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It's DeAndre Jordan. You don't force anyone to stay big with a player of his caliber. Not enough talent to punish the small.

Well thank god you weren't one of those guys lobbying for Stiemsma to play over Bass during the Laker game

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2012, 01:11:24 PM »

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It's DeAndre Jordan. You don't force anyone to stay big with a player of his caliber. Not enough talent to punish the small.

Well thank god you weren't one of those guys lobbying for Stiemsma to play over Bass during the Laker game

What?

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2012, 01:13:54 PM »

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Boston was going small. DeAndre Jordan is a pedestrian player besides his rebounding ability. No reason to have him on the floor.

Del Negro seems to me a very mediocre coach, but I don't blame him for this one. He costed his team a game in the previous night versus the Warriors.


Boston wasn't "going small" they could ONLY go small. Del Negro allowed Doc to dictate the game even with doc not holding any cards


So? I fail to see your point. Doc went small - for need or choice is irrelevant; I suspect he'd have gone small even if he had Wilcox available and no foul trouble - and that forced Del Negro to follow suit.

Its just passive coaching. Letting doc put in whoever he wants and then del Negro reacting to it. Boston was completely depleted up front I don't know how del Negro doesn't recognize that and make doc scramble and figure out who to put in.

Were you not happy when del Negro wasn't putting Jordan back in? I was thinking "wow they are letting us play exactly how we want to. Not to mention they had some guy out there on a 10 day contract guarding pierce and kg

No, I wasn't.

Jordan is too mediocre offensively (and defensively). Putting him wouldn't left Doc scrambling for anything.

He'd just stay small and punish Del Negro for not matching up. Boston would have won by a larger margin.

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2012, 01:30:32 PM »

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It's DeAndre Jordan. You don't force anyone to stay big with a player of his caliber. Not enough talent to punish the small.

Well thank god you weren't one of those guys lobbying for Stiemsma to play over Bass during the Laker game

What?

People were complaining about doc not using stiemsma in the 4th of the Laker game and claimed doc got outcoached

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2012, 01:31:56 PM »

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It's DeAndre Jordan. You don't force anyone to stay big with a player of his caliber. Not enough talent to punish the small.

Well thank god you weren't one of those guys lobbying for Stiemsma to play over Bass during the Laker game

What?

People were complaining about doc not using stiemsma in the 4th of the Laker game and claimed doc got outcoached

Maybe. Not me, so I don't see the relevance.

It seems some people are convinced that you can force coaches to always stay big or that going small isn't often the best or the least bad option. That's nonsense.

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2012, 01:35:40 PM »

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Boston was going small. DeAndre Jordan is a pedestrian player besides his rebounding ability. No reason to have him on the floor.

Del Negro seems to me a very mediocre coach, but I don't blame him for this one. He costed his team a game in the previous night versus the Warriors.


Boston wasn't "going small" they could ONLY go small. Del Negro allowed Doc to dictate the game even with doc not holding any cards


So? I fail to see your point. Doc went small - for need or choice is irrelevant; I suspect he'd have gone small even if he had Wilcox available and no foul trouble - and that forced Del Negro to follow suit.

Its just passive coaching. Letting doc put in whoever he wants and then del Negro reacting to it. Boston was completely depleted up front I don't know how del Negro doesn't recognize that and make doc scramble and figure out who to put in.

Were you not happy when del Negro wasn't putting Jordan back in? I was thinking "wow they are letting us play exactly how we want to. Not to mention they had some guy out there on a 10 day contract guarding pierce and kg

No, I wasn't.

Jordan is too mediocre offensively (and defensively). Putting him wouldn't left Doc scrambling for anything.

He'd just stay small and punish Del Negro for not matching up. Boston would have won by a larger margin.

I guess we can just disagree on this.

No matter how you slice it tho Del Negro has to find a formula to expose the Celtics when the clippers have one of the best frontcourts in the NBA going up against 2 pf's and a 26 year old d-league center

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2012, 01:36:47 PM »

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I'm not sure I understand the DeAndre Jordan wouldn't have killed us comments. The guy had 8 offensive rebounds in 22 minutes. EIGHT! Yeah he's not that skilled offensively, but if you put Pietrus on him or Blake, who had 3 offensive rebounds himself, then you basically are giving them two or three tries every time and a whole lot of put-back dunks. Jordan is way too big, strong and athletic for someone like Pietrus to guard.

And I really don't buy that Jordan couldn't check Pietrus for a few minutes. Pietrus hasn't blown by anybody all year and was struggling offensively. I mean, Bobby Simmons? Really?
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Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2012, 01:40:33 PM »

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Boston was going small. DeAndre Jordan is a pedestrian player besides his rebounding ability. No reason to have him on the floor.

Del Negro seems to me a very mediocre coach, but I don't blame him for this one. He costed his team a game in the previous night versus the Warriors.


Boston wasn't "going small" they could ONLY go small. Del Negro allowed Doc to dictate the game even with doc not holding any cards


So? I fail to see your point. Doc went small - for need or choice is irrelevant; I suspect he'd have gone small even if he had Wilcox available and no foul trouble - and that forced Del Negro to follow suit.

Its just passive coaching. Letting doc put in whoever he wants and then del Negro reacting to it. Boston was completely depleted up front I don't know how del Negro doesn't recognize that and make doc scramble and figure out who to put in.

Were you not happy when del Negro wasn't putting Jordan back in? I was thinking "wow they are letting us play exactly how we want to. Not to mention they had some guy out there on a 10 day contract guarding pierce and kg

No, I wasn't.

Jordan is too mediocre offensively (and defensively). Putting him wouldn't left Doc scrambling for anything.

He'd just stay small and punish Del Negro for not matching up. Boston would have won by a larger margin.

I guess we can just disagree on this.

No matter how you slice it tho Del Negro has to find a formula to expose the Celtics when the clippers have one of the best frontcourts in the NBA going up against 2 pf's and a 26 year old d-league center

  As bad as we've played all year the Clips are only a couple of games ahead of us. One of the best point guards and one of the best front courts in the league, given their bench, should be near the top of the league if not at the top.


Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2012, 01:55:07 PM »

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I'm not sure I understand the DeAndre Jordan wouldn't have killed us comments. The guy had 8 offensive rebounds in 22 minutes. EIGHT! Yeah he's not that skilled offensively, but if you put Pietrus on him or Blake, who had 3 offensive rebounds himself, then you basically are giving them two or three tries every time and a whole lot of put-back dunks. Jordan is way too big, strong and athletic for someone like Pietrus to guard.

And I really don't buy that Jordan couldn't check Pietrus for a few minutes. Pietrus hasn't blown by anybody all year and was struggling offensively. I mean, Bobby Simmons? Really?

yea seriously , Jordan had 13 rebs in 22 mins, there is no way to justify not playing him in the 4th quarter, especially with the lack of front court depth for the c's and they were in foul trouble.

Oh yea and Jordan not being a good free throw shooter is not a reason to not play him in the 4th, they were playing Reggie Evans in the 4th quarter and is one of the worst free throw shooters in the league .

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2012, 01:55:31 PM »

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We would send him to the foul line. Simple as that. We would have abused his bad free throw shooting at a time when the Clippers desperately needed to score.

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2012, 01:59:04 PM »

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I'm not sure I understand the DeAndre Jordan wouldn't have killed us comments. The guy had 8 offensive rebounds in 22 minutes. EIGHT! Yeah he's not that skilled offensively, but if you put Pietrus on him or Blake, who had 3 offensive rebounds himself, then you basically are giving them two or three tries every time and a whole lot of put-back dunks. Jordan is way too big, strong and athletic for someone like Pietrus to guard.

And I really don't buy that Jordan couldn't check Pietrus for a few minutes. Pietrus hasn't blown by anybody all year and was struggling offensively. I mean, Bobby Simmons? Really?

yea seriously , Jordan had 13 rebs in 22 mins, there is no way to justify not playing him in the 4th quarter, especially with the lack of front court depth for the c's and they were in foul trouble.

Oh yea and Jordan not being a good free throw shooter is not a reason to not play him in the 4th, they were playing Reggie Evans in the 4th quarter and is one of the worst free throw shooters in the league .
To underscore the point of how effective he was on the offensive boards, he got a rebound off a free throw. Not because it bounced to him but because the Celtics were unable to box him out (which is saying something because the defender gets interior position on free throw)
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Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2012, 02:43:40 PM »

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Hard to imagine what kind of team we'd be with a monster like Jordan in the middle with a passer like Rondo.

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2012, 02:48:13 PM »

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Just checked the clippers blog and they seem baffled by the the decision not to play Jordan in the 4th, for pretty much the same exact reasons some of us were saying