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Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2012, 05:22:26 AM »

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That was actually dumb. Didn't the CLips saw what happened last night. We lost because we are out sized, and they went small ball. C's would gladly take that approach.
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Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2012, 05:34:36 AM »

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A huge problem for the Clippers tonight (and this seems like a relatively new one, as if they need more problems right now) was that they opened almost every quarter completely dead. At the start of the game, it was 6-0 Boston before the Clippers got on the board. In the third, it was a 13-2 Boston at the start. In the fourth, the Celtics opened 9-0. It's almost as if the Boston team had a plan at the beginning of quarters which they executed, while the Clippers were completely lost. Imagine that.
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Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2012, 05:55:40 AM »

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Yeah ... had me wondering as well.

I understand his deficiencies and the reasons behind limiting his time late in such games, but against the C's?

He was doing a job on us tonight, not to mention getting under KG's skin, (which can work to our favor at times, but can backfire, too).

A bit of questionable coaching on LA's side in this one, (not to mention some horrible officiating for both sides), but opposingly, Doc was great ... glad he's ours.

I suspect Del Negro took Jordan off because KG was drawing him out of the key and knocking in jumpers over his head. When Jordan isnt defending the paint, he's utterly useless. Another advantage of playing KG at the five.
All-in-all a questionable decision ... I would've rotated and used Jordan to work the older, less athletic KG, and used him to post up during the two-minutes-or-so that KG left in the fourth quarter, (from around seven minutes to five).

Loved the way it turned out, though ... KG was fired up from the chippiness ... he and Pierce a couple of vets who can effectively use aggression as positive motivation, and not come unravelled.
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Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2012, 05:57:31 AM »

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Loved the way it turned out, though ... KG was fired up from the chippiness ... he and Pierce a couple of vets who can effectively use aggression as positive motivation, and not come unravelled.
This.

As soon as the game started, it looked chippy, and I felt just fiiiine with that.

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2012, 08:34:33 AM »

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Clippers stand around and wait for Griffen to do everything for them. They seem to be satisfied to stand around and watch him make spectacular plays... ;D  Fine ...they won't go far like that... so  While they do this the other teams are pouring on the coal and making a win very difficult .

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2012, 08:44:39 AM »

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Clippers stand around and wait for Griffen to do everything for them. They seem to be satisfied to stand around and watch him make spectacular plays... ;D  Fine ...they won't go far like that... so  While they do this the other teams are pouring on the coal and making a win very difficult .

Personally, I was rooting for the Clippers to get the ball to Griffin to try to make plays down the stretch.  Griffin with the ball in his hands trying to make a move starting twelve feet from the basket just doesn't scare me.

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Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2012, 08:55:10 AM »

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Stiemsma failed to block a Clippers shot hoisted up after the whistle, KG style, in the second quarter and Jordan celebrated the minor victory with a Tiger Woods fist pump. On a night like this, a win in even the most petty of squabbles was hailed.

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2012, 09:11:08 AM »

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For those who want to do a trade with the Wizards, just remember that Javale McGee is like a less intelligent Deandre Jordan.
He may be less intelligent (I'm not going there), but he is a much more physically gifted player and has a much better all around game.  McGee has a decent low post game and is every bit the defender and rebounder.  I think if you put McGee on a good team, his numbers would dwarf those of Jordan, both in totals and rate (they are pretty similar now in rate).  McGee is a year older, but I'd certainly risk it.
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Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2012, 12:29:28 PM »

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Boston was going small. DeAndre Jordan is a pedestrian player besides his rebounding ability. No reason to have him on the floor.

Del Negro seems to me a very mediocre coach, but I don't blame him for this one. He costed his team a game in the previous night versus the Warriors.

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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2012, 12:35:05 PM »

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Boston was going small. DeAndre Jordan is a pedestrian player besides his rebounding ability. No reason to have him on the floor.

Del Negro seems to me a very mediocre coach, but I don't blame him for this one. He costed his team a game in the previous night versus the Warriors.

Boston wasn't "going small" they could ONLY go small. Del Negro allowed Doc to dictate the game even with doc not holding any cards

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2012, 12:41:49 PM »

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deandre is like the worst free throw shooter in the league or something.  besides ben wallace, at least.  maybe that was part of it.

Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2012, 12:47:58 PM »

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Boston was going small. DeAndre Jordan is a pedestrian player besides his rebounding ability. No reason to have him on the floor.

Del Negro seems to me a very mediocre coach, but I don't blame him for this one. He costed his team a game in the previous night versus the Warriors.


Boston wasn't "going small" they could ONLY go small. Del Negro allowed Doc to dictate the game even with doc not holding any cards


So? I fail to see your point. Doc went small - for need or choice is irrelevant; I suspect he'd have gone small even if he had Wilcox available and no foul trouble - and that forced Del Negro to follow suit.
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Re: How does Deandre Jordan sit the whole 4th quarter aginst the C's?
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deandre is like the worst free throw shooter in the league or something.  besides ben wallace, at least.  maybe that was part of it.

As stated before kg had 4a fouls and bass had 5 to start the 4th. There's no way s
that's why he didn't play the whole 4th. Not to mention it would have got us in the penalty early. Rondo is a bad foul shooter and I would be more than happy if teams did that to us.

They could have brought Jordan in for the very least d on kg, rebounding,  keep kg off griffin defensively and force doc to use a rookie in crunch time 4th quarter of the close game.

How does del Negro not force Docs hand there

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« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2012, 12:57:45 PM »

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It's DeAndre Jordan. You don't force anyone to stay big with a player of his caliber. Not enough talent to punish the small.

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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2012, 12:59:41 PM »

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Boston was going small. DeAndre Jordan is a pedestrian player besides his rebounding ability. No reason to have him on the floor.

Del Negro seems to me a very mediocre coach, but I don't blame him for this one. He costed his team a game in the previous night versus the Warriors.


Boston wasn't "going small" they could ONLY go small. Del Negro allowed Doc to dictate the game even with doc not holding any cards


So? I fail to see your point. Doc went small - for need or choice is irrelevant; I suspect he'd have gone small even if he had Wilcox available and no foul trouble - and that forced Del Negro to follow suit.

Its just passive coaching. Letting doc put in whoever he wants and then del Negro reacting to it. Boston was completely depleted up front I don't know how del Negro doesn't recognize that and make doc scramble and figure out who to put in.

Were you not happy when del Negro wasn't putting Jordan back in? I was thinking "wow they are letting us play exactly how we want to. Not to mention they had some guy out there on a 10 day contract guarding pierce and kg