What are the relative values of Ray Allen and Jamal Crawford (and Nick Young)

[LooseCannon]

At ESPN LA, Ramona Shelburne reports:

The price for the top shooting guards being mentioned in trade talks this spring -- Boston's Ray Allen, Portland's Jamal Crawford and Washington's Nick Young -- has so far been too high for the Clippers.

Most teams have asked for some combination of young point guard Eric Bledsoe, a future first-round pick and the expiring contracts of Randy Foye or Brian Cook.

That certainly fits with Danny Ainge's supposed price tag of a pick and a young player for Ray Allen.  More recently, Ken Berger of CBS Sports has said that the Blazers and Clips are working on a Crawford for Bledsoe and Ryan Gomes deal with no mention of a first round pick.

Teams seem to be waiting for that first trade to establish market value this season.  I think they are inspired to hold out for more value by the ridiculous swag bag that Denver got for trading the over-rated Carmelo Anthony.  The first team to trade for one of the shooting guards being mentioned may be the domino that sets off a bunch of other trades.

So, my question to you is, what is the value of Ray Allen, relative to Jamal Crawford and Nick Young?  This is complicated by Ray Allen making $10m, Crawford $5m with a player option for next season, and Young $3.7m. so Allen may be the better player, but will get a lesser return because you may have to take back a bad contract to comply with salary cap rules. 

If you're the Clippers, do you prefer Gomes and Bledsoe for Crawford, or Gomes, Bledsoe, Foye, and a future first round pick for Ray Allen?  If Crawford for Gomes and Bledsoe with no draft picks involved becomes the standard-setting trade, does that decrease the value that you think the Celtics can realistically get for Ray Allen if you think he should be traded?

[Who]

If I am the Clippers, my first choice target would be Nick Young given his age and how many years of service he could offer the club going forward.

I am not sure on the cap rules but are there some restrictions on Nick Young due to playing on the qualifying offer? Does the team lose his bird rights if he is traded? If so, that would make it pretty much impossible to re-sign him. Hence, I wouldn't be willing to give up anything of value (no draft picks, just expirings and/or inconsequential end of roster players) despite him being my first choice player.

Then Ray Allen in second place. I would give up a first and expirings to land him. 

I wouldn't have any interest in Jamal Crawford. Too similar to Mo Williams. Waste of time and resources. Resources better spent on alternative players. 

[Boris Badenov]

Ordinarily I'd say that Young has the highest value, then Crawford, then Allen - just because of age.

But the West is so wide open this year, I could see the Clips wanting Allen or Crawford just to put them over the top. Crawford in particular can win you a few playoff games almost all by himself, if he gets hot.

So, I think Crawford wins. He can score and he's been a solid playoff performer. If I'm the Clips, I'd give up Bledsoe (who I think is over-valued anyway) and a future 1st, no question.

[LooseCannon]

I am not sure on the cap rules but are there some restrictions on Nick Young due to playing on the qualifying offer? Does the team lose his bird rights if he is traded? If so, that would make it pretty much impossible to re-sign him.

He's on a one year contract, so his Bird rights would be lost if traded, and he can veto trades because of that.  He also seems to be interested in becoming a free agent since it was reported he signed the qualifying offer because he thinks he is worth $9m/year and the Wizards only wanted to give him around $5m for a long-term contract.

Crawford has a player option for next season, which he is expected to decline in search of a longer deal, but I think he has suggested he can be negotiated with.

So, a trade for any of these three players probably amounts to a rental.

[bostonpatriot]

They'd have Crawford and Ray Allen bird rights in case they want to re-sign them but not Young's though (Young would veto any trade anyway).

The Clippers don't own a pick this season and can't trade their 2013 pick. The 2014 pick becomes risky. I'd pick the Ray Allen option as long as the pick was heavily protected. Top-20. Otherwise I'd rather settle with Crawford.

[Marcus13]

Extremely low for both Crawford and Ray.  Craw already said he was opting out of his deal and Ray is unrestricted.  A team probably isnt going to give up a player and a pick when they could lose them after 30 games

[TripleOT]

The Clippers are a shooter away from being a true contender in the West since they lost Billups for the year.  How badly does their owner want to win?  Assuming they will be a good team the next couple of years with CP3 and Griffin, their 2014 first round pick isn't going to help them all that much.

This team has it's core in place with CP3, Griffin, Butler and Jordan.  They add to those pieces with MLE and minvets, not draft picks two years from now.  This team should do whatever they need to do to make a strong run this year.  Then they can attract ring chasing FAs who play for less money and can plug into a championship-contending rotation.

[slamtheking]

considering the fit of those 3 with CP3, I think Crawford is the 3rd option-->needs to ball in his hands to be his most effective.  Ray would work well with him.  Young would work well too and costs less.