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Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2012, 11:02:55 AM »

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You guys with claims that Doc only plays vets and doesn't play young guys, are having their theories flushed down the toilet by the fact that Avery Bradley is playing and has gotten huge minutes over players such as Dooling and Daniels.

The thing is if a young player develops and becomes consistently better than the player in front of him on the depth chart, he plays. If he doesn't, then he sits.

Moore just is not as good defensively as Dooling. That is quite clear to see. Offensively I think Dooling also brings a more total package whereas Moore appears to be the Eddie House, outside shooter only type player.

Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2012, 11:04:09 AM »

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  ???I've seen enought of Dooling to know he SUCKS though the roof.

He couldn't make the D-league playing the turd ball he does.

Moore ANY day of week of DOOL-NOTHING. ;D

Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2012, 11:20:16 AM »

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You guys with claims that Doc only plays vets and doesn't play young guys, are having their theories flushed down the toilet by the fact that Avery Bradley is playing and has gotten huge minutes over players such as Dooling and Daniels.

The thing is if a young player develops and becomes consistently better than the player in front of him on the depth chart, he plays. If he doesn't, then he sits.

Moore just is not as good defensively as Dooling. That is quite clear to see. Offensively I think Dooling also brings a more total package whereas Moore appears to be the Eddie House, outside shooter only type player.
Yea Doc knows the guys better than anybody, I always wonder why Marquis doesn't play but then seeing him in garbage time you see why it's obvious he's lost a step and a lot of his confidence. 
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Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2012, 11:57:25 AM »

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You guys with claims that Doc only plays vets and doesn't play young guys, are having their theories flushed down the toilet by the fact that Avery Bradley is playing and has gotten huge minutes over players such as Dooling and Daniels.

The thing is if a young player develops and becomes consistently better than the player in front of him on the depth chart, he plays. If he doesn't, then he sits.

Moore just is not as good defensively as Dooling. That is quite clear to see. Offensively I think Dooling also brings a more total package whereas Moore appears to be the Eddie House, outside shooter only type player.

Of course, AB is in his second year--and the usual complaint is about rookies.

Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2012, 12:37:19 PM »

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because dooling is better

Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2012, 01:05:17 PM »

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because dooling is better

Not at everything. The problem is, that he can't run the show for the bench. Moore seems more confident at running an offense than both Bradley and Dooling. If either Pierce or Garnett is in, that isn't a problem, since they will take charge. And in a normal 9--10 player rotation, Dooling is probably the lesser evil. But in garbage time, there is just no need to have Dooling in there.

Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2012, 02:22:30 PM »

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You guys with claims that Doc only plays vets and doesn't play young guys, are having their theories flushed down the toilet by the fact that Avery Bradley is playing and has gotten huge minutes over players such as Dooling and Daniels.

The thing is if a young player develops and becomes consistently better than the player in front of him on the depth chart, he plays. If he doesn't, then he sits.

Moore just is not as good defensively as Dooling. That is quite clear to see. Offensively I think Dooling also brings a more total package whereas Moore appears to be the Eddie House, outside shooter only type player.
Sheed consistently was horrid and so was Jermaine O'Neal, and I'm not completely sold on Wilcox over JJJ and yeah...Avery is FINALLY playing over Dooling. Finally. That only took 2/3rds of the season and an injury.  And we now we have to wait till kingdom come for ET to get time over Dooling.

They don't get to consistently prove anything if they don't get floor time.

Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2012, 02:44:00 PM »

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Doc is playing the Vets over some of the young guys.  Avery has proven he is a defensive stopper and therefore earned time, IMHO.

Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2012, 03:10:47 PM »

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Because Etwaun is a worse defender, has struggled to get his shot off against NBA defenders, and brings the same limitations handling the ball that Dooling does.

Other than a couple games where he looked servicable (and I think this largely had to do with the competition in those games), Etwaun has not looked like an NBA player.  Dooling is not exciting, but he is very solid and does a lot of things to help the team.

Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2012, 06:09:31 PM »

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Doc loves his vets, no matter how bad they are.

Moore is the better player, but his age is holding him back. 9 times out of 10, doc would rather lose with the old vet who is playing badly, then trust a rookie.

Its always been that way, as soon as Doc gets a vet on this team, all rookies get pushed to the end of the bench, even if they are better than said vet.

Heck, if P.J. Brown came out of retirement I bet you he would be the first big off the bench, even if he had to use crutches.


Exactly, there are many here who blindly follow doc-ology. But this is the facts...he'll sit a guy for 3 years...! Just because. Doc is not really a good coach by any means. He can draw up a decent play, but as for running a team in 360 degrees, he doesn't see it.


 They follow doc, because WITH THIS INCREDIBLE BIG 3 the Celts won a Championship...you'll hear them go back and forth with it. IF doc's coaching was the reason, WHY did he only get 1...? Then they'll say "doc must have seen something in practice.." Then it comes out that he doesn't hold practices....WHAT....? Doc should be traded..!

Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2012, 07:09:35 PM »

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Doc loves his vets, no matter how bad they are.

Moore is the better player, but his age is holding him back. 9 times out of 10, doc would rather lose with the old vet who is playing badly, then trust a rookie.

Its always been that way, as soon as Doc gets a vet on this team, all rookies get pushed to the end of the bench, even if they are better than said vet.

Heck, if P.J. Brown came out of retirement I bet you he would be the first big off the bench, even if he had to use crutches.


Exactly, there are many here who blindly follow doc-ology. But this is the facts...he'll sit a guy for 3 years...! Just because. Doc is not really a good coach by any means. He can draw up a decent play, but as for running a team in 360 degrees, he doesn't see it.


 They follow doc, because WITH THIS INCREDIBLE BIG 3 the Celts won a Championship...you'll hear them go back and forth with it. IF doc's coaching was the reason, WHY did he only get 1...? Then they'll say "doc must have seen something in practice.." Then it comes out that he doesn't hold practices....WHAT....? Doc should be traded..!

sorry, no coach is going to make us win in 2009 with KG out. and theres no guarantee that any coach will make us win in 2010 esp after the start we had. ONLY 1 CHAMPIONSHIP? that's flawed logic back there. Doc could only do so much with the injuries we had and given the age of the big three when we came here.

Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2012, 07:33:37 PM »

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Man, how do the Spurs draft so well? They immediately draft young players late in rounds that are ready to contribute their first year...

Celtics have had higher picks in the same draft, but our guys cant even get off the bench and the Spurs are one of the top teams in the west! Has any of our young talent gone on to other teams and done well? Anyone?

Danny did a good thing bringig the big 3 here, but outside of that his drafting has been terrible.

Marshon Brooks = immediate 15ppg scorer in his first year.

JJJ = Cant even get off the bench and when he does, doesent look to score.
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Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2012, 07:58:10 PM »

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You guys with claims that Doc only plays vets and doesn't play young guys, are having their theories flushed down the toilet by the fact that Avery Bradley is playing and has gotten huge minutes over players such as Dooling and Daniels.

The thing is if a young player develops and becomes consistently better than the player in front of him on the depth chart, he plays. If he doesn't, then he sits.

Moore just is not as good defensively as Dooling. That is quite clear to see. Offensively I think Dooling also brings a more total package whereas Moore appears to be the Eddie House, outside shooter only type player.
using Bradley playing over Dooling and Daniels is a not a good example.

First off, Daniels doesn't play PG.  His benching has nothing to do with Bradley.

Bradley didn't start getting any playing time until Dooling went down with injury.  Bradley was then used in games at that point because Doc had no other vets to use at that point.  Once given minutes where he couldn't get yanked, Bradley started looking like a halfway decent player.

Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2012, 09:37:02 PM »

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the only rookie Doc has given regular minutes for us is Davis.(not counting the 24 win season where half the team was out for the season) it doesnt matter if they only were in collage 1 year(Bradly last year) or went 4 years(Moore) or went 4 years with another overseas and 1 in the D league(Greg). and no Greg getting minutes when hes the only healthy player(other then JJJ) over 6-7 on the bench doesn't count

Re: Why isn't ET playing over Dooling
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2012, 10:40:32 PM »

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You guys with claims that Doc only plays vets and doesn't play young guys, are having their theories flushed down the toilet by the fact that Avery Bradley is playing and has gotten huge minutes over players such as Dooling and Daniels.

The thing is if a young player develops and becomes consistently better than the player in front of him on the depth chart, he plays. If he doesn't, then he sits.

Moore just is not as good defensively as Dooling. That is quite clear to see. Offensively I think Dooling also brings a more total package whereas Moore appears to be the Eddie House, outside shooter only type player.
using Bradley playing over Dooling and Daniels is a not a good example.

First off, Daniels doesn't play PG.  His benching has nothing to do with Bradley.

Bradley didn't start getting any playing time until Dooling went down with injury.  Bradley was then used in games at that point because Doc had no other vets to use at that point.  Once given minutes where he couldn't get yanked, Bradley started looking like a halfway decent player.
Sorry...not true.

Daniels has played the point/point forward for this team in the past. Second, check the stats and game logs. bradley was playing from the outset and getting regular minutes.