Why isn't ET playing over Dooling

[rasta1]

Moore can actually shoot the ball he provides more offense than dooling can in any given situation

[thestackshow]

Doc loves his vets, no matter how bad they are.

Moore is the better player, but his age is holding him back. 9 times out of 10, doc would rather lose with the old vet who is playing badly, then trust a rookie.

Its always been that way, as soon as Doc gets a vet on this team, all rookies get pushed to the end of the bench, even if they are better than said vet.

Heck, if P.J. Brown came out of retirement I bet you he would be the first big off the bench, even if he had to use crutches.

[LooseCannon]

Statistically, Moore and Dooling seem to be pretty close to even.  Moore seems better if you need someone to handle the ball, Dooling if you want someone who will attack the basket and draw fouls.  It probably comes down to who is better on defense.  For Doc Rivers, that probably means who is more likely to be where they are supposed to be.

[SHAQATTACK]

Dooling is Doc's third cousins child twice removed?

[CelticG1]

Doc does give "his guys" plenty of opportunities. A couple years ago he would only play Quis even when he was doing terrible all season and every time TA came in he would do well. Eventually Doc handed the minutes over to TA.

Our championship season he stuck with PJ brown who was god awful during the season but he stuck with him through the playoffs and it eventually paid off.

Stuck with Sam Casell that year as well only to soon hand the minutes to House.

Come to think of it Doc has made pretty good calls on everything that I can think of. He tried to get Murphy going last year and Murphy just couldn't do anything so Doc stopped playing him.

He's just going to keep giving dooling minutes because in Docs head if Dooling is playing to his capabilities he can be a valuable piece. But I do think that if he continues to crap the bed that eventually Doc will look elsewhere.

Even tonight when Ray came out in the first Q i thought he was going to insert dooling and ended up with Sasha. I could see Sasha being a guy who comes out of nowhere to get valuable and positive minutes by seasons end. He seems to fit in no matter what

[OmarSekou]

Moore isn't that good, Dooling isn't that bad.

Moore hasn't shown that he can contribute in the playoffs (even though he's only had limited minutes), Dooling has shown through his career that he can. Doc knows what he's doing.

[xmuscularghandix]

Because Dooling is a proven NBA player who is currently playing (WAY) below his level of play. E'Twaun hasn't proven anything, thus doesn't deserve anything yet.

It's Dooling's spot to lose... hell he already lost quite a few minutes to Avery. E'Twaun will probably be playing a bit down the stretch before the playoffs.

[ianboyextreme]

Because Dooling is a proven NBA player who is currently playing (WAY) below his level of play. E'Twaun hasn't proven anything, thus doesn't deserve anything yet.

It's Dooling's spot to lose... hell he already lost quite a few minutes to Avery. E'Twaun will probably be playing a bit down the stretch before the playoffs.

did he not score 16 clutch points in that Orlando game? he was a big reason we won that game.

[ForexPirate]

Simple.   Moore is not the one being show cased before trade deadline.

[mctyson]

1) Dooling is a veteran.  Moore is a rookie.

2) Dooling makes more money.

3) Dooling supposedly is a better defender.

4) Dooling supposedly is better than he has played this year.

That being said, these are bad reasons to be playing Dooling over Moore.

[clover]

I don't think that many fans would miss a traded Dooling or Daniels at this point, though really they wouldn't be good for more than salary-matching filler somewhere.  Realistically, I don't see ET getting a real shot this year unless Dooling goes in such a situation.  That AB is developing as quickly as he has makes that more possible IMO.

I found it notable that Doc referred this week to needing a 10-man rotation soon after he said his 9-man rotation was set.  Surely he's hoping for a big, defensive-minded center.  Kaman might be the sort he has in mind.

But both Stiemer and Sasha played pretty well last night, and it will be interesting to see if they get any more time on this road trip and after the trading deadline.  I think given enough  playing time Stiemer could be as valuable by the time of the playoffs as most of the big additions Danny is likely to come up with this week.  That Pietrus's knee keeps swelling up again has to be a worry as well, and they'll really need a rejuvenated Sasha off the bench if Pietrus is shelved.

[2short]

Doc does give "his guys" plenty of opportunities. A couple years ago he would only play Quis even when he was doing terrible all season and every time TA came in he would do well. Eventually Doc handed the minutes over to TA.

Our championship season he stuck with PJ brown who was god awful during the season but he stuck with him through the playoffs and it eventually paid off.

Stuck with Sam Casell that year as well only to soon hand the minutes to House.

Come to think of it Doc has made pretty good calls on everything that I can think of. He tried to get Murphy going last year and Murphy just couldn't do anything so Doc stopped playing him.

He's just going to keep giving dooling minutes because in Docs head if Dooling is playing to his capabilities he can be a valuable piece. But I do think that if he continues to crap the bed that eventually Doc will look elsewhere.

Even tonight when Ray came out in the first Q i thought he was going to insert dooling and ended up with Sasha. I could see Sasha being a guy who comes out of nowhere to get valuable and positive minutes by seasons end. He seems to fit in no matter what

you do have to love sasha, how many dnps and he will come in a really work on defense, when his shot hits its a bonus
if he ever does "rediscover" his jumper he is a really good bench player

[OttawaCeltic]

Moore hasn't shown that he can contribute in the playoffs (even though he's only had limited minutes), Dooling has shown through his career that he can. Doc knows what he's doing.

'Through out his career'? What? Don't look at his contributions, on his old teams, look at his present state with the Celtics. Moore has shown up more than him, heck, Sasha shown up more than him(if u watched all the Celtic games, you'll know what I mean)!!

[Eja117]

Vets on this team aren't afraid to not play hard or well because of Doc.  Sheed is a great example. He did nothing whatsoever till the last 45 minutes of the season. He put in way way way less effort than Toine at his worst and he had nothing to fear about getting yanked.

Vets don't worry about coasting for Doc or flipping switches or losing playing time. They don't. It filters down to rookies, because then why should they care?

I'm not saying Doc doesn't play young guys. I'm saying once you have his trust it's impossible to lose it. If you're Glen Davis it's a 50 50 shot but you will still get waaayyyyy more minutes than you should

[chambers]

Dooling is better than Moore.
Moore is a liability at the moment.
If we are going to get our moneys worth out of Dooling we need to keep playing him to get him into shape and rhythm.
He barely played in January and February and we will need him in the playoffs if we are going to somehow get out of the first round.

Moore will have plenty of time next year and will probably grow to be a better player than Dooling.
Dooling at his best is much better than the current Moore though.
Anyone who has seen Dooling play in the last 3 years knows this.