What about Darko Miličić?

[Q_FBE]

I am thinking I would rather have the Bruins Milan Lucic over this guy. Him and Zdeno Chara would help out immensely on the boards  and could check Kobe, Lerbon and D-Wayne into the parquet. Not too sure how long they would last until they fouled out though 

[mqtcelticsfan]

Bad offensive player, mediocre rebounder, skilled defensive player: JO 2.0. 

Signed into next year, so no thanks.

Or Perkins 2.0.

I say go get him.  He may play inspired if he's playing for a good team that may have a chance at a championship.

Are we thinking about the same player?

[Accension13]

Bad offensive player, mediocre rebounder, skilled defensive player: JO 2.0. 

Signed into next year, so no thanks.

Or Perkins 2.0.

I say go get him.  He may play inspired if he's playing for a good team that may have a chance at a championship.

I know a lot of times when we look at a potential big with "effort" or "attitude" issues we just look to Garnett and we figure "hey, just put this guy next to KG and he'll fall in line." 

I don't think that would work for Darko.  This is a man that nearly gave up on the NBA two years ago. He doesn't respond well to adversity.  Putting him next to 4 guys who demand exellence is a bad recipe.  I can't imagine that those dagger glares from KG/Rondo would go towards boosting Darko's morale.

Just for the record i do think Darko still has the potential to be a starting center in the NBA, but he's not ready to play meaningful basketball right now.

Good point... His psyche is very weak, and he has never shown the ability to respond to adversity very well. I still would give him a shot. 4mil a year for a serviceable big man is not a bad deal. At worst he is a backup for the C's thats much better that Steisma, JO, or Kristic. At best, he reaches his potential under Doc and excels for the C's

[jgod213]

Bad offensive player, mediocre rebounder, skilled defensive player: JO 2.0. 

Signed into next year, so no thanks.

Or Perkins 2.0.

I say go get him.  He may play inspired if he's playing for a good team that may have a chance at a championship.

I know a lot of times when we look at a potential big with "effort" or "attitude" issues we just look to Garnett and we figure "hey, just put this guy next to KG and he'll fall in line." 

I don't think that would work for Darko.  This is a man that nearly gave up on the NBA two years ago. He doesn't respond well to adversity.  Putting him next to 4 guys who demand exellence is a bad recipe.  I can't imagine that those dagger glares from KG/Rondo would go towards boosting Darko's morale.

Just for the record i do think Darko still has the potential to be a starting center in the NBA, but he's not ready to play meaningful basketball right now.

Good point... His psyche is very weak, and he has never shown the ability to respond to adversity very well. I still would give him a shot. 4mil a year for a serviceable big man is not a bad deal. At worst he is a backup for the C's thats much better that Steisma, JO, or Kristic. At best, he reaches his potential under Doc and excels for the C's

Yeah i mean Darko is a rollercoaster ride, and right now he is basically a more seasoned Greg Steimsa.

I guess if you want to make a move, then something like this makes sense.  Doc has said over and over the only player whose minutes he needs to cap are KG's...which means more playing time for Bass/Wilcox...which means you need another center.

If the cost is low i'm intriuged since JO seems to be a lost casue, but it's not enough to put this team where it needs to be.  KG needs to be playing the 5 when games matter.

[Change]

Go figure! Nikola Pekovic goes down with an injury, and Darko stepped up his play. The rebounding leaves a lot to be desired. 13points and 4rebounds (+12) for the game.

[Accension13]

Watched bits and pieces of the game. He has a nice offensive game. He is much better than perk and JO.

[arctic 3.0]

I'm in the one more run camp, i feel that we could go deep if we bring in the right guy (read rebounding):
IMO the two most moveable players we can trade with out killing our play off chances are Ray and O'neal (we can only move ray if we are getting a building block or major rebounder who comes off the books soon.)
 so: a list in order of preference of potentially available bigs who fit that mold...

Al Jefferson (d is poor but no worse then what we can throw out there behind KG now) single handedly brings our rebounding percentage back to respectable, terrific low post scorer who has learned how to pass out of the double team.

Caveman, slow, good d, above average rebounder, tough cookie

Darko, good passer, above average defense, not much rebounding questionable heart

J thompson, natural ability, no heart (blount 2.0?)

okafor, big long contract, not good enough to build around

varejao?, not available unless cav's management is foolish

Of these players i'd only trade allen for jafferson or varejao, utah may bite for allen's expiring, cav's want to loose, no need for allen. DARKO may be had for JO's expiring. the CAVEMAN, who knows what NO is thinking.

[LeoMoreno]

As a short term solution, perhaps. Great center, good footwork, good rebound hunter, big. Now, translated into NBA language: average center.

He is, however, Serbian. There are 2 kinds of Serbian players, quiet, calm, nice like Stojakovic and Krstic, and Milicic type who storm out of the World Championship Finals for not being given the opportunity to play. He's probably doing the same kind of thing (also known as Eastern Europe stubbornness syndrome) in Minnesota right now because he probably thinks he's better than Pekovic (who falls in the first group). So yeah, maybe for a few months until we find a proper solution for that spot.

[More Banners]

I'd be willing to take on Okafor if he comes with a 1st or high 2nd.  He's exactly what we need at the 5.  For Ray and Bass?

I'd hope to get Beasley and Darko for JO, Dooling, Moore, and a pick, too.

Rondo
Pierce
Beasley
KG
Okafor

Bradley
Wilcox
Pietrus
Darko
[JGreen]

[Accension13]

Okafor is undersized for a center and he has a terrible contract. Milicic is basically just as good and makes an affordable 4-5M. To me this is a better move

[Accension13]

Here is my trade idea...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7v27pxq

Minny get - Ray Allen, JO, Dooling, 1st rounder
Celts get - Milicic, Beasley, Johnson, Ridnour, Randolph

If the C's did this, all their weaknesses would be addressed. Additionally, they could still pursue Kaman if he gets bought out. If he doesnt, thats OK because they would have Milicic

[Goldstar88]

Here is my trade idea...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7v27pxq

Minny get - Ray Allen, JO, Dooling, 1st rounder
Celts get - Milicic, Beasley, Johnson, Ridnour, Randolph

If the C's did this, all their weaknesses would be addressed. Additionally, they could still pursue Kaman if he gets bought out. If he doesnt, thats OK because they would have Milicic

I would trade for Chris Kaman over Milicic any day of the week. kaman is averaging 12ppg, 8rpg and 1.blk in 27 mins. Kaman can actually shoot and is much better from the Line. Milicic is 40% from the ft line... no thank you. Beasley can not get any playing time from the t-wolves. What makes you think he will be better in Boston. Hes playing with a pass first point guard and should be thriving over there but is not...

[Finkelskyhook]

My question is...Why would Minny do it?  They have a better record than us in a much stronger conference and are only a game and a half out from a playoff berth.

Why would they trade a part of their rotation for for somebody who plays when he feels like it?

[Celtics4ever]

Pass on this underachiever.

[Accension13]

My question is...Why would Minny do it?  They have a better record than us in a much stronger conference and are only a game and a half out from a playoff berth.

Why would they trade a part of their rotation for for somebody who plays when he feels like it?

Minny would do this because they want a first round pick and need production out of their SG. The trade that was nixed by LA was Beasley for a 1st. LA nixed it because they did not want to take on additional salary. Minny does not want JO, but they need his expiring contract to make the Beasley deal possible. Again, all they want for Beasley is a 1st.

As far as SG, Ray is perfect for them. Currently, they are getting no prodution out of Wes Johnson as their starting shooting gaurd. His PER is 6.3. Ray Allen's PER is almost 20. Instant upgrade! To get Ray, they are going to have to give something of value. I think Milicic (a player who was out of their rotation), Randolph (gets no playing time in Minny), Johnson ( a starter who is not producing and would not get minutes if they had Ray ), and Ridnour ( rotation player for them with modest value ) is fair compensation. Additionally, by trading these players to the C's, Minny frees up cap room going forward to compete for free agents to build around Love, Rubio, Williams, and Pekovic.

Minny wants to get into the playoffs this year. To do so, they need to upgrade their SG position. Ray could be more efficient with Minny than he is with Boston. Rubio is more of a scoring threat than Rondo. Teams wont be able to play off him and double Ray the way they do the C's