So Minny wants our Clipper's first for Michael Beasley...Wes Johnson anybody?

[KGs Knee]

I'd definitely give the Clippers pick for it. I think people keep forgetting that the LA pick will be further down than Boston's.

Not necessarily true.  If both teams make the playoffs, but Boston advances further, LAC's pick would be better.

Basically, teams that get eliminated in the 1st round pick higher than those that make it to the 2nd round (regardless of regular season record).  Teams eliminated in the 2nd round pick higher than those that make it to the conferene finals and so on.

Are you nuts? It's all by the final regular season standings. The playoffs don't play a role in draft positioning whatsoever!

Yeah, I just looked it up, apparently you're right.  I guess I was thinking of how the NFL does it.  Just goes to show how stupid the NBA draft really is.

The worst team doesn't necessarily get the top pick, and the champion could end up with the 15th pick.  That makes no sense at all.  Just one more way in which the NBA is inferior to the NFL.

[Celts Fan 92]

I'd definitely give the Clippers pick for it. I think people keep forgetting that the LA pick will be further down than Boston's.

...not to mention that this year's draft is utter crap.

thank you co-sign both of these cuz I've gotten ignored for pointing both these things out

[KGs Knee]

I'd definitely give the Clippers pick for it. I think people keep forgetting that the LA pick will be further down than Boston's.

...not to mention that this year's draft is utter crap.

thank you co-sign both of these cuz I've gotten ignored for pointing both these things out

Completely disagree.

This years draft has definitely been over-hyped, but is going to be a very strong draft none the less.  While there may not be any elite superstars (i.e. Lebron/Durant/Rose types) in this years draft, there are going to be a good number of solid rotation level players, and quite possibly multiple borderline all-stars.

The draft is weak at the top, but deep.

[lon3lytoaster]

I'd definitely give the Clippers pick for it. I think people keep forgetting that the LA pick will be further down than Boston's.

...not to mention that this year's draft is utter crap.

thank you co-sign both of these cuz I've gotten ignored for pointing both these things out

Completely disagree.

This years draft has definitely been over-hyped, but is going to be a very strong draft none the less.  While there may not be any elite superstars (i.e. Lebron/Durant/Rose types) in this years draft, there are going to be a good number of solid rotation level players, and quite possibly multiple borderline all-stars.

The draft is weak at the top, but deep.

Beasley is closer to a "Sure-thing" and I'd rather "draft" him with that pick, if you know what I mean.

[KGs Knee]

I'd definitely give the Clippers pick for it. I think people keep forgetting that the LA pick will be further down than Boston's.

...not to mention that this year's draft is utter crap.

thank you co-sign both of these cuz I've gotten ignored for pointing both these things out

Completely disagree.

This years draft has definitely been over-hyped, but is going to be a very strong draft none the less.  While there may not be any elite superstars (i.e. Lebron/Durant/Rose types) in this years draft, there are going to be a good number of solid rotation level players, and quite possibly multiple borderline all-stars.

The draft is weak at the top, but deep.

Beasley is closer to a "Sure-thing" and I'd rather "draft" him with that pick, if you know what I mean.

Oh, I agree, it would be worth it to give up the LAC pick for Beasley.  I was just stating my disagreement with the assesment this draft is crap.

I could definitely see Beasley providing good scoring off the bench for us.  I would love to see a bench unit of Bradley, Ray, Beasley and Wilcox.  I think that could be a strong unit.

[lon3lytoaster]

I'd definitely give the Clippers pick for it. I think people keep forgetting that the LA pick will be further down than Boston's.

...not to mention that this year's draft is utter crap.

thank you co-sign both of these cuz I've gotten ignored for pointing both these things out

Completely disagree.

This years draft has definitely been over-hyped, but is going to be a very strong draft none the less.  While there may not be any elite superstars (i.e. Lebron/Durant/Rose types) in this years draft, there are going to be a good number of solid rotation level players, and quite possibly multiple borderline all-stars.

The draft is weak at the top, but deep.

Beasley is closer to a "Sure-thing" and I'd rather "draft" him with that pick, if you know what I mean.

Oh, I agree, it would be worth it to give up the LAC pick for Beasley.  I was just stating my disagreement with the assesment this draft is crap.

I could definitely see Beasley providing good scoring off the bench for us.  I would love to see a bench unit of Bradley, Ray, Beasley and Wilcox.  I think that could be a strong unit.

Ah ok. My bad.

[cman88]

I just dont think the likelihood of us drafting an 'impact player" which beasley "could be" is that likely with the clippers pick..

if it doesnt work out so well, we own beasleys bird rights and can just trade him in the summer anyways

[Cman]

Of course they want the Clipper pick.
They aren't trying to dump Beasley, they are trying to trade him for an asset (JO is not an asset, he's filler to make the salary match).

Clippers 1st + JO for Beasley is a no brainer for the Celtics - its a good deal.

[PosImpos]

Of course they want the Clipper pick.
They aren't trying to dump Beasley, they are trying to trade him for an asset (JO is not an asset, he's filler to make the salary match).

Clippers 1st + JO for Beasley is a no brainer for the Celtics - its a good deal.

Yeah.

My guess is they know he's going to want more than they'll be willing to offer this summer (i.e. much at all) so they want to get something for him before he leaves.  

Beasley isn't a bad player, but the T-Wolves are committed to Derrick Williams, who duplicates Beasley's skill set to a large degree.

If the Celtics know they want to sign Beasley this summer, trading the 1st for him would make sense.  Otherwise, the chances are too high that they'll be giving away a 1st round pick for 30 games of Beasley.  Which would make sense if it were 2 years ago.

[goCeltics]

i think it depends now much beasley is willing to resign for, if danny felt he could resign to a contract were he remain an asset to use in a trade for a superstar then he get him. I think danny thinks the window has closed and wants to start getting assets for a trade again.

[pearljammer10]

I really dont like Beasley all that much...However JO and a late first round draft pick in the 20's is a no brainer for the celtics.

[CoachBo]

Where do I sign on this one?

That pick's getting more worthless by the day.

[LooseCannon]

i think it depends now much beasley is willing to resign for,

I think it depends more on what sort of offer sheet another team would give Beasley.  Ideally, Ainge would like to sign Beasley for the one-year qualifying offer.  He has to be concerned that some team will come along and offer something like 3 years/$30m.

If Ainge likes Beasley as a long-term piece and has given up on this season, then he should wait for the off-season.  I can see the case for Minnesota being unlikely to match an offer sheet.

[PosImpos]

i think it depends now much beasley is willing to resign for,

I think it depends more on what sort of offer sheet another team would give Beasley.  Ideally, Ainge would like to sign Beasley for the one-year qualifying offer.  He has to be concerned that some team will come along and offer something like 3 years/$30m.

If Ainge likes Beasley as a long-term piece and has given up on this season, then he should wait for the off-season.  I can see the case for Minnesota being unlikely to match an offer sheet.

It's possible Ainge would want to have Beasley on hand for 30 games to get a better sense of him as a person and as a player and then decide what to offer.

I don't think any teams will offer 3 yrs / 30 million, but Beasley might get an offer like 2 yrs / 15 million, or 3 yrs / 25 million.

[cman88]

i think it depends now much beasley is willing to resign for,

I think it depends more on what sort of offer sheet another team would give Beasley.  Ideally, Ainge would like to sign Beasley for the one-year qualifying offer.  He has to be concerned that some team will come along and offer something like 3 years/$30m.

If Ainge likes Beasley as a long-term piece and has given up on this season, then he should wait for the off-season.  I can see the case for Minnesota being unlikely to match an offer sheet.

It's possible Ainge would want to have Beasley on hand for 30 games to get a better sense of him as a person and as a player and then decide what to offer.

I don't think any teams will offer 3 yrs / 30 million, but Beasley might get an offer like 2 yrs / 15 million, or 3 yrs / 25 million.

and even then, you have his bird rights...so if some team offers him that you can do a sign and trade and get something in return.

right now we are getting nothing in return for JO coming off the books