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Re: So any chance the Celtics keep Bass
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2012, 02:22:29 PM »

Offline SHAQATTACK

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Bass and Wilcox aren't going anywhere soon they have earned their keep.  They along with KG &PP have keep this team afloat and avoid total embrassment this year .  They are a bargain .  And whats more.. they "LIKE US "....how about that :D , and are coachable and willing to do the dirty work. And play like they are HAPPY to be on a good team.    

They are valuable stable pieces . I wouldn't dare trade em , unless it is part of a deal to land a Lottery pick ( future star) or part of a trade to get a FA super star.

Danny has a POCKET FULL of CHANGE ...he'll get us some more decent players .

I hope Rondo enjoys Kobe screaming at him  

 



 

Re: So any chance the Celtics keep Bass
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2012, 02:44:34 PM »

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I hope not

Why is that?
I don't want to tie up cap space on such a limited player.

As a backup PF on a contender, I like Bass a lot and would love to keep him long term. In contrast, on a rebuilding team his contract will tie up valuable cap flexibility and make him an impediment to success.

But aren't you going to have to pay someone? I speak as someone who is cap space challanged, so forgive me, but I think he could be an excellent piece on a rebuilding team.
On a basketball level, why do you say he's a limited player? I mean I know he's not going to lead the league in assists, but he's looked pretty good starting these last few games. Like I said before, he can score, rebound, play D.
I'm just wondering why you think he's limited and who you would get thats better for whatever he would cost? He also seems to fit into the system Doc likes to play.

Cap space

I am a big believer in keeping as much space open as possible to sign All-Star caliber talent when possible. I say when possible because it might not be straight away (this summer). Most likely won't be.

If Danny struck out and was looking to spend some money, I would be happy with Brandon Bass on a one-year deal (to re-open the cap flexibility next summer) but not a multi-year deal.

One of the most dangerous things for a team below the cap to do is to give out multi-year contract to role player level talent. For example, that is exactly what the Phoenix Suns did when Amare Stoudemire left. They decided to pay Channing Frye ($5-6mil), Josh Childress ($6-7mil) and Hakim Warrick ($4mil) on 4-5 year long contracts. That is money that they could have given to a star level player down the road but instead tied up on a bunch of role players limiting their ability to improve their team. Which has created all the problems they are suffering through now since their Conference Finals appearance two years ago.

Also, you could look at Detroit with those Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva contracts.

Brandon Bass

By limited, I mean Bass is really good in the role he currently has here in Boston but doesn't seem capable of heck of a lot more. He is what he is.

A limited defender/rebounder. Awareness and team defense leave a lot to desire. Lacks size (height) which can cause problems in some man-to-man assignments. Rebounding is well below average for a PF.

Offensively, he is not much of a shot-creator. Relies heavily on others to help him get looks. Best suited to a 12-14ppg role. Non-passer. Offensively, he is a good role player but doesn't seem to have much upside beyond what he is already shown himself capable of in Dallas, Orlando and here in Boston.

I'd rate him as a high level backup PF (frequently creates matchup advantage over opponent) or low level starter (doesn't create many issues for opponent, oftentimes puts his team at a disadvantage) if pressed into it.

Edit: I also think his scoring efficiency and shot selection drop off a bit as a starter vs a reserve.

Re: So any chance the Celtics keep Bass
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2012, 07:44:06 PM »

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Boy Danny hit a home run on this guy - I like him a LOT.