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Re: Ray Allen Trade Ideas
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2012, 04:10:51 PM »

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My offer would probably be something like Allen/Pavlovic/Moore/1st round pick for Korver/Brewer/Butler/1st round pick.

I would also consider asking for a future Bulls pick instead of one for this year.

Unless you really like Butler, I think that's a pretty terrible deal for the Celtics.  They give up the best player and they probably downgrade their pick.

I suspect Ainge likes Butler and might see trading a bottom third first-round pick for Butler as a win.  Would he effectively swap expiring contracts for the ability to trade a first-round pick this year for Butler and that protected Bobcats pick?  I think so.  Maybe not if it is just Chicago's own pick.

I don't think there exists a realistic Ray Allen trade where he is not the best player in the deal.
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Re: Ray Allen Trade Ideas
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2012, 04:13:33 PM »

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How about something along the lines of:

Send Ray to Chicago

Send out Moore and a first rounder, even Johnson too

Phx gets some of the assets from Chicago, Johnson and Moore, and 2 picks overall (one from Chicago and one from Boston)

Boston gets Nash

Then do the Rondo for Pau trade if its on the table.

For the future, you lose a first rounder and a decent prospect in Johnson.  However, you get a free run at #18 with Nash-Pierce-KG-Pau + keep your cap space for this summer.  

Don't think Danny doesn't have something like this in mind too.

Re: Ray Allen Trade Ideas
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2012, 10:50:39 PM »

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"I'm disappointed," Carlisle continued, "with the way the whole thing's gone. We've worked hard with this kid. I'm a patient guy, Mark is a patient guy, Donnie is a patient guy, our team is a patient team, but patience has worn thin here.

I think Ray ends up being the guy moved, Pietrus played really well tonight and gives us improved defense with the starters. So here is a deal I think would benefit us, get Odom out of a bad situation for him in Dallas and move a guy who doesn't play much for them. It also frees up cap space for Dallas next year.

To Boston: Lamar Odom, Rodrigue Beaubois
To Dallas: Ray Allen

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Re: Ray Allen Trade Ideas
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2012, 11:46:41 PM »

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"I'm disappointed," Carlisle continued, "with the way the whole thing's gone. We've worked hard with this kid. I'm a patient guy, Mark is a patient guy, Donnie is a patient guy, our team is a patient team, but patience has worn thin here.

I think Ray ends up being the guy moved, Pietrus played really well tonight and gives us improved defense with the starters. So here is a deal I think would benefit us, get Odom out of a bad situation for him in Dallas and move a guy who doesn't play much for them. It also frees up cap space for Dallas next year.

To Boston: Lamar Odom, Rodrigue Beaubois
To Dallas: Ray Allen



Interesting.

You could also go all in for this year and do:

Allen & JO

for

Odom & Marion

Cuban is dying to find a taker for Marion, so he can amnesty Haywood, and go after Deron and Howard. So they definitely say yes. The question is we are willing to take on Marion's deal who expires after next season.

Re: Ray Allen Trade Ideas
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2012, 09:58:52 PM »

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As you've likely heard, the breakup of the Celtics may be sped up soon.

Yet for all the talk of Boston point guard Rajon Rondo possibly being traded, some league executives have shooting guard and free-agent-to-be Ray Allen pegged as the most likely to be moved. Sources say the Clippers are interested, having lost Chauncey Billups to season-ending injury and lost out to New York in the J.R. Smith sweepstakes.

But the price is likely too high, as Boston wants a package that includes a young talent and a draft pick. The Clippers don't have the latter component, though, and there's a bit of irony involved as to why.

Their 2012 first-round pick went to Oklahoma City in a deal for point guard Eric Bledsoe, and was then moved to Boston in the trade that sent center Kendrick Perkins to the Thunder. The Clippers also had Minnesota's unprotected 2012 first-rounder, but gave it to New Orleans in the Chris Paul trade.

Even with his age (36), Allen would be a difference maker for any team looking to add offensive firepower. The NBA's all-time 3-point champion is shooting a career-high 48.6 percent from beyond the arc (third in the league) while averaging 14.8 points per game on 47.5 percent shooting overall.

The Celtics (18-17) are still in playoff position, and they have some incentive to not fall too far this season no matter what moves are made since the aforementioned pick from the Clippers is top-10-protected until 2016. Boston also has its own 2012 first-round pick as well.
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Re: Ray Allen Trade Ideas
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2012, 10:17:10 PM »

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One of the only trades I can see happening is a three team trade, with Ray to Portland for Nicholas Batum and Wesley Mathews or something along those lines with danny sending wes mathews somewhere else coz his contract is just not worth it. Or add Keeyon Dooling to the trade and get back Greg Oden too - whose value and future potential is pretty low.

Re: Ray Allen Trade Ideas
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2012, 11:47:36 PM »

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One of the only trades I can see happening is a three team trade, with Ray to Portland for Nicholas Batum and Wesley Mathews or something along those lines with danny sending wes mathews somewhere else coz his contract is just not worth it. Or add Keeyon Dooling to the trade and get back Greg Oden too - whose value and future potential is pretty low.

No way portland gives up batum for ray allen....


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Re: Ray Allen Trade Ideas
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2012, 12:33:41 AM »

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"I'm disappointed," Carlisle continued, "with the way the whole thing's gone. We've worked hard with this kid. I'm a patient guy, Mark is a patient guy, Donnie is a patient guy, our team is a patient team, but patience has worn thin here.

I think Ray ends up being the guy moved, Pietrus played really well tonight and gives us improved defense with the starters. So here is a deal I think would benefit us, get Odom out of a bad situation for him in Dallas and move a guy who doesn't play much for them. It also frees up cap space for Dallas next year.

To Boston: Lamar Odom, Rodrigue Beaubois
To Dallas: Ray Allen



Interesting.

You could also go all in for this year and do:

Allen & JO

for

Odom & Marion

Cuban is dying to find a taker for Marion, so he can amnesty Haywood, and go after Deron and Howard. So they definitely say yes. The question is we are willing to take on Marion's deal who expires after next season.

Dallas is not trying to move Marion right now.  Read the papers.  If and that's a big word, if they move Marion it won't be until after the season.  The love Marion and would only move him if the can get both DWill and Howard....

ray Allen Trade Ideas
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2012, 03:21:42 AM »

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ray allen is the epitome of a real celtic, on and off the court...if i had it my way, he's untouchable on my team..
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Re: Ray Allen Trade Ideas
« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2012, 08:55:33 PM »

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Re: Ray Allen Trade Ideas
« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2012, 09:17:39 PM »

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This is probably obvious but I thought I'd post it anyway.

 "@AlexKennedyNBA: The Boston Celtics aren't actively shopping Ray Allen, but they're "accepting calls," according to one executive."
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Re: Ray Allen Trade Ideas
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2012, 09:29:30 PM »

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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6waogwq based on chad ford's suggestion.

To Boston: Eric Gordon, 6.8 mm trade exception
 
To Indiana: Chris Kaman, Ray Allen

To New Orleans: Danny Granger, 1st rounder or two

 

7. Eric Gordon, G, Hornets Gordon was supposed to be the centerpiece of the Hornets' new rebuilding effort, but injuries have kept him out of the lineup for all but two games this season. With Gordon hitting restricted free agency this summer and preferring to play elsewhere, do the Hornets cut their losses and try to make a deal now while they can?

The team has coveted New Orleans native Danny Granger in the past, and the Pacers would love to bring back one of Indy's own as well. It would be a risky move for the Pacers, as Gordon is still several weeks away from being ready to play. But it could be a great move long term.
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