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Trade Idea : BOS/CLE
« on: February 21, 2012, 05:04:47 PM »

Offline green7

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Cavs receive :
Jermaine oneal + second round pick

Celtics Receive:
Semih erden + Ryan hollins

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=878427o

Why should boston do this deal?

Because semih fits in with this team so well, he was good on defense and took whatever rondo gave him offensively. and also he can rebound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jem2-3RncB0
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Re: Trade Idea : BOS/CLE
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 05:06:52 PM »

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JO's better than Erden. Just stop it.
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Re: Trade Idea : BOS/CLE
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2012, 05:10:26 PM »

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Quote from: Tai on February 21, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
JO's better than Erden. Just stop it.

If you can make the case that Ryan Hollins is better than Greg Stiemsma, it might be worth it even if JO is better than Erden (and he is), depending on how much better.
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Re: Trade Idea : BOS/CLE
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2012, 05:11:40 PM »

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Quote from: Tai on February 21, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
JO's better than Erden. Just stop it.

of course he is, but is this team winning right now like how they should be? i don't think so, does Jo provide anything other than charges and like 2 block shots? i don't think so.. 2 centers for 1 is better than a aging JO
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2012, 05:21:58 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2012, 05:22:27 PM »

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JO is better than Erden and Steimsma is probably better than Hollins. Everyone involved is on a one-year contract. It looks like Boston would just be downgrading for the sake of downgrading in this trade.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2012, 05:28:04 PM »

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Quote from: Geo123 on February 21, 2012, 05:21:58 PM
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same thing i do every time oneal is on the court lol.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2012, 05:32:18 PM »

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Quote from: mqtcelticsfan on February 21, 2012, 05:22:27 PM
JO is better than Erden and Steimsma is probably better than Hollins. Everyone involved is on a one-year contract. It looks like Boston would just be downgrading for the sake of downgrading in this trade.

i never said trade stiems and who said anything about hollins actually getting playing time,he's just involved because adding him would be the only way the trade could happen.
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2012, 05:35:50 PM »

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Quote from: green7 on February 21, 2012, 05:28:04 PM
Quote from: Geo123 on February 21, 2012, 05:21:58 PM
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same thing i do every time oneal is on the court lol.

That's fair, but if we're gonna trade JO, I'd rather get him involved in a trade that gets us Pau Gasol.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2012, 05:38:42 PM »

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Quote from: green7 on February 21, 2012, 05:32:18 PM
Quote from: mqtcelticsfan on February 21, 2012, 05:22:27 PM
JO is better than Erden and Steimsma is probably better than Hollins. Everyone involved is on a one-year contract. It looks like Boston would just be downgrading for the sake of downgrading in this trade.

i never said trade stiems and who said anything about hollins actually getting playing time,he's just involved because adding him would be the only way the trade could happen.

So, basically we create a logjam of really bad Centers? Erden, Steimsma and Hollins would be a terrible trio to have on the roster when we already have Garnett, Bass, Johnson and Wilcox. There's only so many roster spots available.
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2012, 05:39:16 PM »

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Quote from: Tai on February 21, 2012, 05:35:50 PM
Quote from: green7 on February 21, 2012, 05:28:04 PM
Quote from: Geo123 on February 21, 2012, 05:21:58 PM
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same thing i do every time oneal is on the court lol.

That's fair, but if we're gonna trade JO, I'd rather get him involved in a trade that gets us Pau Gasol.

kg and gasol would be nice to see but i wouldn't want rondo traded for him
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2012, 05:42:47 PM »

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Quote from: mqtcelticsfan on February 21, 2012, 05:38:42 PM
Quote from: green7 on February 21, 2012, 05:32:18 PM
Quote from: mqtcelticsfan on February 21, 2012, 05:22:27 PM
JO is better than Erden and Steimsma is probably better than Hollins. Everyone involved is on a one-year contract. It looks like Boston would just be downgrading for the sake of downgrading in this trade.

i never said trade stiems and who said anything about hollins actually getting playing time,he's just involved because adding him would be the only way the trade could happen.

So, basically we create a logjam of really bad Centers? Erden, Steimsma and Hollins would be a terrible trio to have on the roster when we already have Garnett, Bass, Johnson and Wilcox. There's only so many roster spots available.

can't we just waive hollins? if it was up to me wilcox would be starting @ center right now
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2012, 05:47:48 PM »

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Quote from: green7 on February 21, 2012, 05:42:47 PM
can't we just waive hollins? if it was up to me wilcox would be starting @ center right now

...but?

Quote from: green7 on February 21, 2012, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: Tai on February 21, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
JO's better than Erden. Just stop it.

of course he is, but is this team winning right now like how they should be? i don't think so, does Jo provide anything other than charges and like 2 block shots? i don't think so.. 2 centers for 1 is better than a aging JO

What would be the point, then?
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2012, 05:51:46 PM »

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Quote from: mqtcelticsfan on February 21, 2012, 05:47:48 PM
Quote from: green7 on February 21, 2012, 05:42:47 PM
can't we just waive hollins? if it was up to me wilcox would be starting @ center right now

...but?

Quote from: green7 on February 21, 2012, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: Tai on February 21, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
JO's better than Erden. Just stop it.

of course he is, but is this team winning right now like how they should be? i don't think so, does Jo provide anything other than charges and like 2 block shots? i don't think so.. 2 centers for 1 is better than a aging JO

What would be the point, then?

i think our defense moved better with erden.

and also doc would not start wilcox.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2012, 06:23:19 PM »

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Erden is healthy some at least.   That being said I think he is vastly over rated by some here.  He is a career third string player in my eyes.
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