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Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #375 on: February 22, 2012, 09:51:35 PM »

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Just FYI there's a first team all nba rookie in NJ with 18 points right now

Pretty sure Irving and Rubio have the Rookie Guard spots sewn up on the first team. Also, FY!, he wouldn't be playing over Ray Allen and Paul Pierce.
Just because Doc refuses to play the best players doesn't mean he isn't a better player than JJJ or anyone else.


He's a 2 guard starting on a terrible team. He's not better than Ray or Paul and thus wouldn't be getting substantial minutes.
Can he run the break?  What would happen if we had him instead of them? Have horrifically embarrassing losses? Oh wait. We have that now.  If we were to call the Nets and offer PP or Ray for Brooks and salary filler they'd laugh for 3 days straight.
exactly what GM running a franchise that's rebuilding trade a rookie SG that has potential for a 36-year-old SG? 

you're not helping your argument that Brooks was a bad deal or that he'd be saving the franchise if we kept him.  if JJJ was getting as much playing time as Brooks, he'd have similar numbers ( granted, that's an assumption on my part but JJJ has shown he's more than capable of scoring when given minutes).  Put Brooks on team where he'd be stuck behind a top HOF starter and a backup that's played like a 6th man candidate and he'd be sitting just like JJJ.
It depends on what Doc you believe exists right now. If you believe he's the old Doc that gave minutes to young guys like Baby and Powe and Rondo and Perk and Delonte and Tony Allen, and Gomes then you think Brooks would be making a difference.

If you believe as I do that he wouldn't play a rookie or a good player right now unless someone puts a gun to his head (Danny. Where is your gun?) then it wouldn't matter if we had the 3rd best rookie in the league and JJJ may be the 4th best but we won't know
there's only 1 Doc: the one that doesn't play young players unless he has no veteran options. 

The notion he played those young guys because they earned it is crap.  he had no veterans to put out there instead of them.  Name a vet he has as an option.
Also, he will play good players if he has them.  Brooks probably would have seen the court this year when Dooling went down and taken the minutes given to Moore.  Brooks wouldn't see the court otherwise.  You're also assuming he's going to be a gunner on a team where every starter has been to the all-star game.  that's a bit of a stretch.

Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #376 on: February 22, 2012, 09:51:57 PM »

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For the last year or so I was really on the fence about Avery Bradley, but I am convinced after the games when Rondo was out, and the game tonight that he is a keeper.  The athleticism and just hustle and guts are what impress me.

I love Avery's effort and guts.  He never gives up on any play.  His defense is scarey good.  It may not show up in the box score much because Westbrook was hitting especially in the 1st half.  But Avery made him work, and was a big pest.  Westbrook got away with a lot of pushing off.  Once Avery gets more well known he won't be getting all those touch fouls.

It takes a couple years for young players to develop in the NBA.  I am glad he is getting a chance to develop.  His play is def one of the positive things we can take from the season.

 

Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #377 on: February 22, 2012, 09:52:02 PM »

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Durant with 9 rebounds and 6 assists . . . he's really showing a lot of people this season that he can rebound and pass, despite what has been said about him in the past.
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Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #378 on: February 22, 2012, 09:52:08 PM »

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OKC is just too much of everything , too many weapons , youth , skill, a team that is designed to beat the Fakers or Heatles .

A good effort tonight anyways by a waning crew of hasbeens and want to bee's

Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #379 on: February 22, 2012, 10:01:02 PM »

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Just FYI there's a first team all nba rookie in NJ with 18 points right now

Pretty sure Irving and Rubio have the Rookie Guard spots sewn up on the first team. Also, FY!, he wouldn't be playing over Ray Allen and Paul Pierce.
Just because Doc refuses to play the best players doesn't mean he isn't a better player than JJJ or anyone else.


He's a 2 guard starting on a terrible team. He's not better than Ray or Paul and thus wouldn't be getting substantial minutes.
Can he run the break?  What would happen if we had him instead of them? Have horrifically embarrassing losses? Oh wait. We have that now.  If we were to call the Nets and offer PP or Ray for Brooks and salary filler they'd laugh for 3 days straight.
exactly what GM running a franchise that's rebuilding trade a rookie SG that has potential for a 36-year-old SG? 

you're not helping your argument that Brooks was a bad deal or that he'd be saving the franchise if we kept him.  if JJJ was getting as much playing time as Brooks, he'd have similar numbers ( granted, that's an assumption on my part but JJJ has shown he's more than capable of scoring when given minutes).  Put Brooks on team where he'd be stuck behind a top HOF starter and a backup that's played like a 6th man candidate and he'd be sitting just like JJJ.
It depends on what Doc you believe exists right now. If you believe he's the old Doc that gave minutes to young guys like Baby and Powe and Rondo and Perk and Delonte and Tony Allen, and Gomes then you think Brooks would be making a difference.

If you believe as I do that he wouldn't play a rookie or a good player right now unless someone puts a gun to his head (Danny. Where is your gun?) then it wouldn't matter if we had the 3rd best rookie in the league and JJJ may be the 4th best but we won't know
there's only 1 Doc: the one that doesn't play young players unless he has no veteran options. 

The notion he played those young guys because they earned it is crap.  he had no veterans to put out there instead of them.  Name a vet he has as an option.
Also, he will play good players if he has them.  Brooks probably would have seen the court this year when Dooling went down and taken the minutes given to Moore.  Brooks wouldn't see the court otherwise.  You're also assuming he's going to be a gunner on a team where every starter has been to the all-star game.  that's a bit of a stretch.
Name vets he has as an option now. No no no. Not the tired show up-and-give-me-a-check-I-already-won-my-ring vets. Contributing vets. Vets contributing to a winning team. Maybe KG when he isn't having "personal issues".  But that's it. Pietrus and Wilcox are vets I guess.  Bass when he's healthy

Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #380 on: February 22, 2012, 10:03:49 PM »

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well KD is a match up nightmare for any defense.  basically we got too far behind no matter what today.  You just aren't going to come back from 27 down on the Thunder.  Too talented on offense.

I like the balance that the Thunder have on their lineup.  We'll just have to see this year if their defense can step up at playoff time and they can get their heads on right.  They are probably my 2nd fav team behind the C's. 

Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #381 on: February 22, 2012, 10:16:51 PM »

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The sense of defeatism in this thread is disappointing.  I understand it, but we've accepted losing as our fate, and it's quite clear that the window is slammed shut no matter what the green glasses wearing / kool-aid drinking believers may think.  I've resolved this season is a lost cause.

Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #382 on: February 22, 2012, 10:44:18 PM »

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JjJ is our best matchup with Durant. Why does doc refuse to be creative with his matchups.

Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #383 on: February 22, 2012, 11:22:37 PM »

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Some throwback stat lines for Los Tres Amigos tonight (ignoring the +/- of course).  No bench, though (it was starting or injured).

Says quite a bit...though I'm not sure what.

Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #384 on: February 22, 2012, 11:27:44 PM »

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JjJ is our best matchup with Durant. Why does doc refuse to be creative with his matchups.

A rookie guarding Durant would be in foul trouble in no time. The officiating was horrible for both teams tonight.

Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #385 on: February 22, 2012, 11:29:30 PM »

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JjJ is our best matchup with Durant. Why does doc refuse to be creative with his matchups.

JJJ is a terrible defender. Out of position and with a player of Durant's caliber, it'd be a bloodbath. Durant shot 9-22... he'd have shot 17-22 if it was JJJ on him. He wouldn't, because JJJ would foul out in a hurry, but you get the idea.

Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #386 on: February 22, 2012, 11:34:52 PM »

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JjJ is our best matchup with Durant. Why does doc refuse to be creative with his matchups.

JJJ is a terrible defender. Out of position and with a player of Durant's caliber, it'd be a bloodbath. Durant shot 9-22... he'd have shot 17-22 if it was JJJ on him. He wouldn't, because JJJ would foul out in a hurry, but you get the idea.

Speaking of fouling out, hurrah for Perk for breaking the 30 minute mark before fouling out tonight.

Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #387 on: February 23, 2012, 04:00:38 AM »

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Watching the game for the first time, (2AM replay) ... the first ten minutes were great for us offensively, the last ten minutes were awesome at both ends, the rest was just garbage.

Gotta love how this team pulled together and made a heckuva run with a short-handed team ... again. Avery with some great stuff and adding to his defensive reputation, some horrible calls.

This team has been out of sorts for a great deal of this season thus far, but why wouldn't they be?!? They have been consistently the most injured team since this shortened year began.

This one was certainly a roller-coaster, but I saw a lot to be encouraged about as far as chemistry and fortitude, not laying down and rolling over when being blown out by 27.

By the way, that last "block" on Ray-Ray by Ibaka, (that the crowd went crazy over), was a blatant goal-tend, (at least through my green-colored glasses), and I loved Perk getting T'd up on Pierce's taking that charge.

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Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #388 on: February 23, 2012, 04:06:51 AM »

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^^the T was vintage Perk loved it  ;D
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Re: Celtics (15-16) at Thunder (25-7) 2/22
« Reply #389 on: February 23, 2012, 10:18:44 AM »

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We outplayed them badly in the 2nd half but I think Oklahoma let up on us and had to flip the switch back on to hold off our charge. Too bad that we did not get the breaks to finish them off and claim a major earth shattering, building shredding F5 tornadic comeback win over the Thunder.
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